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Has anyone had any success with Werewolf form in pvp?

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    Prothwata wrote: »

    The heal is just sad, werewolf is for stamina users, yet you have it scaling off of magicka.


    What??

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    olsborg wrote: »
    Prothwata wrote: »

    The heal is just sad, werewolf is for stamina users, yet you have it scaling off of magicka.


    What??

    Hercine's heal is werewolve's self heal, it costs and scales off magicka and spell power. ...
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    Prothwata wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    Prothwata wrote: »

    The heal is just sad, werewolf is for stamina users, yet you have it scaling off of magicka.


    What??

    Hercine's heal is werewolve's self heal, it costs and scales off magicka and spell power. ...

    It is good that way. None of the other skills use magic, so the magic is saved for healing only.

    It should be 25% stronger, though.
  • Alcast
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    Hircines Rage heal got crippled in this patch :/

    And doesnt make sense that it is Magicka based....
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Hircines Rage heal got crippled in this patch :/

    And doesnt make sense that it is Magicka based....

    It does make sense, because ZOS power and what not. Honestly I only use Rage for the damage buff on Claws of Life, a bit more reliable having a heal that scales off what i'm built toward.
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    There is something going on with WW in this patch. I'm not sure if shield breaker is working in WW form or what, but I have been 1 shot by a WW through a 12k ward.

    I havent been able to find out why, because it is just one specific WW, who dies instantly if hes not in WW form.
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    Xeven wrote: »
    There is something going on with WW in this patch. I'm not sure if shield breaker is working in WW form or what, but I have been 1 shot by a WW through a 12k ward.

    I havent been able to find out why, because it is just one specific WW, who dies instantly if hes not in WW form.

    hm..havent yet played around with WW in this patch. .. You sure your shield was still up and it wasnt a visual shieldbug?

    Howl does like 12k dmg. And did the daeth recap say 12k shieldbreaker? Or what exactly did it say
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Xeven wrote: »
    There is something going on with WW in this patch. I'm not sure if shield breaker is working in WW form or what, but I have been 1 shot by a WW through a 12k ward.

    I havent been able to find out why, because it is just one specific WW, who dies instantly if hes not in WW form.

    hm..havent yet played around with WW in this patch. .. You sure your shield was still up and it wasnt a visual shieldbug?

    Howl does like 12k dmg. And did the daeth recap say 12k shieldbreaker? Or what exactly did it say

    I didn't check the recap unfortunately and I haven't seen anyone else do it since then. Maybe it was just a lag spike or something.
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Hircines Rage heal got crippled in this patch :/

    And doesnt make sense that it is Magicka based....

    It does make sense you may but have a lot of magic but 100% of it used to be wasted in Wolf form. I do agree that the heal is weak so you're forced to take all the healing morphs but besides that it's good the way it is.
    Xeven wrote: »
    There is something going on with WW in this patch. I'm not sure if shield breaker is working in WW form or what, but I have been 1 shot by a WW through a 12k ward.

    I havent been able to find out why, because it is just one specific WW, who dies instantly if hes not in WW form.

    The WW Fear is good but the Howling power has a morph that does bonus damage to feared enemies. In Wolf Form I have hit for 13k (300cp) so he could have popped Your shield and killed you if like most Sorcerers you have low health
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    I've had 30 seconds of incredible success with werewolf on stam sorc. Then surge wears off... But it highlights why they can't just make WW a toggle like overload. Toggle-off, use class skills, toggle on would be nuts

    Molag Kena 1 piece increases both spell and weapon damage. Same for way of the air proc. This can help with heals, as can prismatic enchants... but that's pretty expensive. DW also helps with spell damage and set bonuses, and is the best since weapon passives turn off when in WW (same as overload).

    Savior hide can help a lot with transform cost, but the stats suck if you get stuck in combat and can't swap it out with outfitter.

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    I've had 30 seconds of incredible success with werewolf on stam sorc. Then surge wears off... But it highlights why they can't just make WW a toggle like overload. Toggle-off, use class skills, toggle on would be nuts

    Molag Kena 1 piece increases both spell and weapon damage. Same for way of the air proc. This can help with heals, as can prismatic enchants... but that's pretty expensive. DW also helps with spell damage and set bonuses, and is the best since weapon passives turn off when in WW (same as overload).

    Savior hide can help a lot with transform cost, but the stats suck if you get stuck in combat and can't swap it out with outfitter.

    Most people i've seen (myself included) say 'toggle' to mean 'stay in form without having to be an ostrich' not to be able to turn it on and off at will. That implies the cost to turn into ww and one of the better suggestions I like is ww would need to rebuild the ultimate cost to revert.
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    Xeven wrote: »
    There is something going on with WW in this patch. I'm not sure if shield breaker is working in WW form or what, but I have been 1 shot by a WW through a 12k ward.

    I havent been able to find out why, because it is just one specific WW, who dies instantly if hes not in WW form.

    Shield breaker set is working fine with WW form. Killed some Sorcs with it. Light bleeding attacks that ignore the shields. Poor feared sorcs. ...
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Hircines Rage heal got crippled in this patch :/

    And doesnt make sense that it is Magicka based....

    It does make sense you may but have a lot of magic but 100% of it used to be wasted in Wolf form. I do agree that the heal is weak so you're forced to take all the healing morphs but besides that it's good the way it is.
    Xeven wrote: »
    There is something going on with WW in this patch. I'm not sure if shield breaker is working in WW form or what, but I have been 1 shot by a WW through a 12k ward.

    I havent been able to find out why, because it is just one specific WW, who dies instantly if hes not in WW form.

    The WW Fear is good but the Howling power has a morph that does bonus damage to feared enemies. In Wolf Form I have hit for 13k (300cp) so he could have popped Your shield and killed you if like most Sorcerers you have low health

    I've always thought they should make fear magic and change one morph heal to stamina
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    Sad to see others think the same thing I do werewolf is weak in pvp I don't understand why this is werewolf should be one of the strongest things in the game I play a ww and I got to say I get embarrassed even turning into one in pvp some major changes need to take place so it can be strong and stand a chance in pvp ww needs to be a toggle and also needs its timer removed if not at least make it a toggle ability
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    If the light/heavy attack bleed is applied when a shield is down and then another is cast does the bleed continue to do damage?
    yes but to the shield then (untill its consumed)

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    Alcast wrote: »
    Hircines Rage heal got crippled in this patch :/

    And doesnt make sense that it is Magicka based....

    have in mind 2 pieces of molag kena at this point...
    its not awesome but somewhat balanced.
    Edited by Tankqull on 3 December 2015 14:06
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    Prothwata wrote: »

    The heal is just sad, werewolf is for stamina users, yet you have it scaling off of magicka.


    The heal should scale off stam but it is better I think using magicka. Werewolf already sinks stamina super fast.
    Edited by Cathexis on 3 December 2015 20:13
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