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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

PvP DW Stam Nightblade Set Suggestions?

DrCraig
DrCraig
Soul Shriven
I'm a Stam NB vr16, been running Shied Breaker+Agility+NightSilence on a great 2h+Bow set, but I want to switch things up.

I want to drop Shield Breaker and run a Dual Wield + 2h(buff) build for some meaaan burst, but I'm foggy in sets. I want Hundings, Agility is the only good jewelry set, ravager is heavy :/, and there's a plethora of other sets littered around. So I'm confused on how to make a build excelling above what I previously ran.

Any Dual Wield Stam Builds?
What sets do you run/recommend for some high weapon dmg?
(Sheer venom probably is not happening :))

Sword1+2h:
Sword2:

Head:
Shoulders:
Chest:
Waist:
Hands:
Legs:
Boots:

Necklace:
Ring1:
Ring2:
  • glavius
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    5 shield breaker, 2 endurance, 3 agility, 1 molag kena, 1 bloodspawn :-) And it's even quite cheap if you can get hold of the undaunted pieces! Make sure both dual wield weapons are agility so that's the bonus you loose when switching to the 2h buff bar.
    Edited by glavius on 22 November 2015 18:46
  • DrCraig
    DrCraig
    Soul Shriven
    I was trying to drop shied breaker since I won't be running a bow. (It's best with a bow on hand in my opinion)
    I DO have 16 shield breaker on hand for the buffs tho because the 4 piece is pretty good. Was looking to stack weapon dmg and tweak the recovery to preference later.
  • ostrapz
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    I run a stam nb at vet 11. Agility jewelery is definitely best bet. For more burst hundings is usually at the top of the list. There is a new set called briarrose in orsinium that heals off crits, which uou could possibly use to replace a heal for another damage buff. Sheer venom looks great, especially for a 2h because of executioner, i understand why you would be against that grind lol. If you use crit rush the maelstrom 2h gives it a good boost.
    Xbox 1 NA
    Stamblade: Grand overlord
    Stamsorc: Major
    Magplar: Centurion
    551k vma
  • glavius
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    Shield breaker is great even without having a bow!
  • ColtPython
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    I'm using 5 shield breaker, 3 agility accessories, DW maces Night mother, 2h axe maelstrom, 2 molag kena.
    And...
    Werewolf!
    The rotation is as follows:
    Turn werewolf
    LA, LA, LA, LA, repeat
    Profit
  • Jitterbug
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    5 hundings rage
    4 night mothers gaze
    3 agility

    that is if you cant get the fancy monster stuff in post #2
  • Reeko
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    Warrior mundus with all divines.
    Edited by Reeko on 24 November 2015 10:09
  • Lifecode666
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    1 x molag kena, x5 hundings rage, rest ashen grip.all increase mundus stone effect.
    I did a cheap trick and bought all endurance accessories with stam and inserted wepondamage glyphs.
    Now you change to serpent mundus stone.
    So here is the fun part.
    You get extra health from both ashen and endurance bonus, and stamina recovery from both accessories and the mundus stone.(serpent)around 1.6 k i think it was..

    If i remember correct you get around 20k health, 33k stam and around 3200 wepondamage unbuffed(dawnbreaker on offensive bar).
    Buffed with rally and in sneak it popps over 4k.

    This is with tri food and all legendary gear.

    ofc, there is many ways to go.
    you can take warrior mundus and run agillety sett also....etc...
    Edited by Lifecode666 on 24 November 2015 13:15
    Up the hornz
  • thechampxo
    The post above - that's a good idea just for stam regen, I might think about doing it so thanks for the tips haha. I'm just running 5 hunding 4 night mother 3 agility all with robust 20k health (with food, yeah I know it's bad) 28k stam but only got vet 14 gear though and my weapon damage unbuffed is 3200 with dawn breaker. I like my build atm but it's just the stamina sustain that I need and it's only 1400 with the max health and stam recov food
  • Olen_Mikko
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    5 Hunding's rage
    4 night mothers gaze
    3 shadow walker (necklace + ring + ring)

    warrior mundus / weapon power jewelry.

    NB enthusiastic:
    1. Woodhippie stamblade - DW hard-hitter / PvE
    2. Know-it-all elf Magblade - Healer / PvE & PvP
    3. Hate-them-all elf Magblade - Destrostaff AoE monster / PvE
    4. Cyrodiil-Refugee stamblade - Stamina Tank / PvE

    Go dominion or go home

    Nightblade-Hipster. I played Nightblade before it was cool - from 1.5 onwards.
  • olsborg
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    5 hundings and 4 morkuldin (and 3 agility), it worked great , altho I found out I didnt like dw much, atleast not yet. I might try it again, but the gear setup worked great.

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • Kutsuu
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    Personally I run 2h/2h... because I feel that Crit rush + executioner (with the usual surprise attack, cloak, and fear) gives me more consistent killing power than ambush + killer's blade in those slots. Killer's blade doesn't synergize with Mighty since it does magic damage, is reduced by Hardy, and even worse it's absorbed by Harness Magicka... so you take someone down to execute range with physical attacks that bypassed their magicka shield then spam your killer's blade into their magicka shield while they recover. Of course you could *not* do this if you're paying attention, but then a slot on your bar is useless against them. (ultimates will also hit their shield so it can be kind of a "whatever" situation for you).

    Anyway I know you're asking for gear set advice on the DW/2h build. You can check out Sypher PK's DW/2h stam build that he just posted a couple of weeks ago. Seems pretty viable. He uses Willow's Path and Morkulden I believe for the sustain power, while still reaching 3500+ weapon damage.
    PC/NA

    Envy Me - Sorc
    Kutsus - NB
    Kutsmuffin - Temp
    Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
    Kutsuu - Temp
    Natsu Dragoneel - DK
    Kutsumo - NB
  • Kutsuu
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    thechampxo wrote: »
    The post above - that's a good idea just for stam regen, I might think about doing it so thanks for the tips haha. I'm just running 5 hunding 4 night mother 3 agility all with robust 20k health (with food, yeah I know it's bad) 28k stam but only got vet 14 gear though and my weapon damage unbuffed is 3200 with dawn breaker. I like my build atm but it's just the stamina sustain that I need and it's only 1400 with the max health and stam recov food

    I think NB in PVP makes a very strong case for drinks so you can get stam *and* magicka regen. Cloak is so incredibly powerful on a stamina NB, but you need magicka for Fear too... so having that 1000+ magicka regen with drink and Nightblade passives is a huge boon.

    Of course you'd have to push your health up with other means at that point so it might not be as viable for you as it is for us imperials.
    Edited by Kutsuu on 24 November 2015 18:49
    PC/NA

    Envy Me - Sorc
    Kutsus - NB
    Kutsmuffin - Temp
    Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
    Kutsuu - Temp
    Natsu Dragoneel - DK
    Kutsumo - NB
  • revonine
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    Kutsuu wrote: »
    Personally I run 2h/2h... because I feel that Crit rush + executioner (with the usual surprise attack, cloak, and fear) gives me more consistent killing power than ambush + killer's blade in those slots.

    I thought I was the only one. Keep trying to force myself to like Ambush because it ignores terrain + empower but Crit Rush hits just too damn hard for me to give up lol.
  • Lifecode666
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    thechampxo wrote: »
    The post above - that's a good idea just for stam regen, I might think about doing it so thanks for the tips haha. I'm just running 5 hunding 4 night mother 3 agility all with robust 20k health (with food, yeah I know it's bad) 28k stam but only got vet 14 gear though and my weapon damage unbuffed is 3200 with dawn breaker. I like my build atm but it's just the stamina sustain that I need and it's only 1400 with the max health and stam recov food

    I was really struggling with Vet maelstrom arena, because i had so low stamina regen, which is also very important in pvp and pledges
    I got some ideas from ALCAST in terms of build and some tricks.
    I had warrior mundus and agillety accessories(but 1 ring was healthy and the other magica.)
    My mood was going down the toilet because i was tired of grinding sewers to get rings with stamina and at that time they costed like 300k+ for 1 ring.
    So i bought endurance sett for like 3k each and innserted wepondamage glyph, then changed mundus to serpent aswell.
    Best idea ever and cheap.
    Another thing you can do for even more stam regen is to put werewolw ulti on offensive bar for shitloads of more stamregen.

    Ofc it is fun to sometimes go full gankstyle and go full damagebuild, but if you get into a fight where it will last awhile you will simply die cause you run out of stamina..

    ...again it all depends on many factors like playstyle,cp points etc etc..
    Edited by Lifecode666 on 26 November 2015 07:40
    Up the hornz
  • DrCraig
    DrCraig
    Soul Shriven
    Yo thanks for the input guys. I'm pretty proficient with my 2h/bow in small scale PvP and I think DW would be fun to try. I'll get a set up going =)

    (And for those who posted about warrior stone, serpent is the more efficient choice. You can make up the damage, and then some, with weapon dmg enchantments on jewelry.
  • blur
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    nm
    Edited by blur on 26 November 2015 17:34
  • SemiD4rkness
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    Im running 5 hunding's 3 agility 2 shadow walker 1 bloodspawn 1 molag keena
    Can't think of something better for more stam regen and damage.
    Also serpent mundus.
  • Jaronking
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    Im running 5 hunding's 3 agility 2 shadow walker 1 bloodspawn 1 molag keena
    Can't think of something better for more stam regen and damage.
    Also serpent mundus.

    I have to ask because I been thinking about farming for Bloodspawn and Molag Kena what is your weapon damage and Stam regen.
  • SemiD4rkness
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Im running 5 hunding's 3 agility 2 shadow walker 1 bloodspawn 1 molag keena
    Can't think of something better for more stam regen and damage.
    Also serpent mundus.

    I have to ask because I been thinking about farming for Bloodspawn and Molag Kena what is your weapon damage and Stam regen.

    3.2k weapon damage and 2.2 regen
    34k stamina and near 50% crit it works great for my stamplar
    Edited by SemiD4rkness on 27 November 2015 17:53
  • Jaronking
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Im running 5 hunding's 3 agility 2 shadow walker 1 bloodspawn 1 molag keena
    Can't think of something better for more stam regen and damage.
    Also serpent mundus.

    I have to ask because I been thinking about farming for Bloodspawn and Molag Kena what is your weapon damage and Stam regen.

    3.2k weapon damage and 2.2 regen
    34k stamina and near 50% crit it works great for my stamplar
    That's really Good am guess its a farming weekend for me.
  • Skinzz
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    Im a stamina night blade red guard with 3800-4100 weapon damage and 2350 Stam regeneration all buffed of course. Using 5 piece hundings all legendary and v16 with divInes or infused, blood spawn + molag kena, 3 piece agility with a weapon damage enchant on the necklace and legendary duel wield night mother gaze maces with defending traits and weapon damage glyphs. Also warrior mundus stone. I'm using all legendary stamina enchants as well
    Edited by Skinzz on 28 November 2015 14:32
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • ThePonzzz
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    I'm doing the same 2 bars, DW DPS with a 2H buff bar. I'm using...

    5 Hunding, 5 Briarheart (3 jewelry), 2 Night Mother (weapons). I'm only at 240 CP but I sit at 2800 weapon damage and 1500 stamina recovery after food (new blood recipe with health plus stamina recovery) but prebuff.
  • dday3six
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    Personally I like:

    3 Night's Silence (on DW)
    1 Molag Kena
    5 Willow's Path
    3 Agility w/weapon enchants
    5/1/1 Medium, Heavy, Light

    I've been favoring a mix of sustain and weapon damage lately.
  • Jaronking
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    dday3six wrote: »
    Personally I like:

    3 Night's Silence (on DW)
    1 Molag Kena
    5 Willow's Path
    3 Agility w/weapon enchants
    5/1/1 Medium, Heavy, Light

    I've been favoring a mix of sustain and weapon damage lately.

    What is your regen and Weapon damage ?
  • Kutsuu
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    Does the willow's 5 piece modify your final regen values including drink/etc, or only base regen?
    PC/NA

    Envy Me - Sorc
    Kutsus - NB
    Kutsmuffin - Temp
    Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
    Kutsuu - Temp
    Natsu Dragoneel - DK
    Kutsumo - NB
  • dday3six
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    dday3six wrote: »
    Personally I like:

    3 Night's Silence (on DW)
    1 Molag Kena
    5 Willow's Path
    3 Agility w/weapon enchants
    5/1/1 Medium, Heavy, Light

    I've been favoring a mix of sustain and weapon damage lately.

    What is your regen and Weapon damage ?

    I'll be honest I found out there seems to be a bug and on PS4 the 15% doesn't seem to calculate out quite like I thought it would. I discovered I had more regen from having WW slotted than having 5pc Willow's Path. Which doesn't make sense. I think it's something to do with Willow's not factoring in CP, racial passives, and drinks.
  • Sharee
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    5x night's silence, 4x shield breaker (only have to swap belt to get 5 shield breaker if there's need), 3x endurance jewelry.
    NS is a must(unless you're a vamp). Speed is life.

    No idea why everyone is so fixated on agility jewelry. You still need some hitpoints, and you still need some stamina regen. If you get them on jewelry, you can then use other slots for damage or stamina.
  • Tankqull
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    5 hundings/shieldbreaker depends on my moot
    3 agilty
    2 endurance
    molag kena
    bloodspawn
    5/1/1
    vamp (only for the stealth speed passive)
    spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused

    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Jaronking
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    I been Theorcrafting and You should be able to work this as a build.
    5 Hounding Rage
    1 Blood spawn head
    1 Molag Kena Shoulder
    2 shadow walker Rings(1 weapon damage enchanted1 Recovery)
    1 Agility or Endurance necklace (Weapon damage enchants)
    2 Agility/Endurance Swords

    Serpent Mundes For that recovery.
    Edited by Jaronking on 29 November 2015 23:57
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