Support Skill Guard + DK Scales Yay, Nay?

MrDerrikk · October 2015

What the title says; anyone tried them together? If the Guard skill gets a fix to be usable I could see this being a very good tanking combination, assuming that their stamina regen/refills from shards potions etc could handle it.

Bane_of_Fringe · October 2015

With the no regen from blocking, it'll be more worthless now that it ever was before.

ItsRejectz · October 2015

If guard worked correctly then it would be an option, but guard is broken. The tool tip says you DO regen stamina whilst blocking, but you do not at the moment. Knowing zos it will be fixed at some point in 2017

usmcjdking · October 2015

Bane_of_Fringe wrote: »

With the no regen from blocking, it'll be more worthless now that it ever was before.

Not to be that guy, but you should probably read the tool-tip.

Winterpsy · October 2015

I've testing the guard skill as it look so awesome on paper.

Some of my finds, and experience I summed up here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/226541/guard#latest

It absolutely needs to tweaking. As it is now when guard is up, I most of the time do not seem to take damage at all from projectiles. This means I dont need to hold up my shield, thus stamina is regenerating. (I am testing this by standing under the walls during sieges, protecting allies who are being fired at)

But. Stamina regen is still worse than it's cost, so it constantly drains the stam pool. When going towards zergs, it works better as I can constantly heavy attack enemy players, why they arekind of protected in my aura.

BUT. On many occassions it does not work at all. Guildy was standing in my aura taking constant damage from snipes.

How can we bring this issue to the attantion of devs?

Bashev · October 2015

ItsRejectz wrote: »

If guard worked correctly then it would be an option, but guard is broken. The tool tip says you DO regen stamina whilst blocking, but you do not at the moment. Knowing zos it will be fixed at some point in 2017

We still do not know is the skill bugged or the tooltip is wrong.
@Winterpsy You wrote in your topic that you have 500 stamina regen while you are using guard? Probably you use stamina regen drinks? And it acts like the sprinting?

Winterpsy · October 2015

How it works in practice:

I had 1500 stam regen when I last checked. (Stam drink, werewolf ulti slotted, some pieces of medium armor, stam regen set bonuses).
I switched guard on and the stam regen according to the character sheet dropped to 500, and the skill itself albeit slowly was draining my stamina constantly. So I had a reduced stam regen which was fighting with the cost of the guard, but the balance off, the skill was more costly than the stam regen reduced by the skill itself.

Bashev · October 2015

Winterpsy wrote: »

How it works in practice:

I had 1500 stam regen when I last checked. (Stam drink, werewolf ulti slotted, some pieces of medium armor, stam regen set bonuses).
I switched guard on and the stam regen according to the character sheet dropped to 500, and the skill itself albeit slowly was draining my stamina constantly. So I had a reduced stam regen which was fighting with the cost of the guard, but the balance off, the skill was more costly than the stam regen reduced by the skill itself.

You have 500 stamina regen because of the drinks. It is a bug. It is the same with sneaking or sprinting when you use drinks. If you do not use drinks your regeneration is 0. If it only worked like that for block too.

Cathexis · October 2015

Guard makes no sense to me... pay resources to take more damage? You should gain stamina for taking someone else's damage not lose it.