Do you play on EU or US mega lag server?

Random people grouping are not usually the bravest. Try to find a PvP guild and you will have a lot more fun in Cyrodiil.

DaveTheMinion wrote: »

I have had some awesome sessions in Cyrodill over the last few months, joining random groups to attack and defend, I have also left some groups that just want to play hide and seek in the long grass, but as of last night, EP were dominating the map and they did it well, mass groups of warriors determined to ride over anything in their way.
I joined a group of about 19 players, we were defending Fort Warden, most of us were on the keep wall, lobbing whatever we could find at the attacking hord, but our numbers where just not great enough, they penetrated our outer wall, I ran to the inner keep only to see my group running out of rear of the stronghold and riding away???? only a small handful of gamers were left defending our keep.
We lost the keep and I was forced to respawn at our starting point, I could see my group hovering about at the scroll temple of Ni-Mohk, so I rode out and joined them there, within a few minutes of joining them our temple came under attack, the red flag buggers were after our scroll! a few of us started to battle with the horde, I fell to an arrow in the knee and had a look about to see if I was in anyway revivable, but guess what, the group had again run off into the distance away from the battle????

If your not going to fight, what's the point in grouping up in Cyrodill? or even entering the place, your only filling up spaces that could be used by people who actually want to play PVP! the only other thing that got me was I had to cue to join as the server was full yet after spending over 2 hours trying to find groups who would help me attack and defend I only came across small groups who either ran away or as soon as they got to the sewer entrance they left the group????

I am ashamed to be a member of the DC...... well done to the EP who fought with strength and honour!

The DC do that, I have noticed each alliance seems to do something better then the other 2

- DC are the Zerg Masters but 1 on 1, most people on DC can't fight at all but those that know how to fight must be avoided at all costs as they will usually win most 1 on 1 encounters, they have the weak are useless and are more useful when they are not clogging up the campaign and the strong are unbeatable and can take several players at once mentality thing going on.

- AD lacks coordination but are masters of the Ganking manoeuvre and many appear to be very sneaky they will usually try to attack the keeps you will least expect, they also seemingly have the number's advantage.

- EP seems to be quite powerful 1 on 1, they are somewhat good gankers and good at keep defending but most don't bother with it because the majority are just too lazy to do anything.

Good. If only more DC ppl had your sense, because they should all be ashamed.

I've found that some players care more about their KD ratio than fighting for their faction. Don't know if this is more true for one faction than the other. Another factor might be that the other two factions simply have more population, making resistance seem futile ;)o

Tryxus wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

DC are the Zerg Masters

I loled at this

If we're talking about PC NA I would probably disagree with you \ sgree with the original comment. DC seems to run some pretty tight and well coordinated zergs, and they've been good about coordinating multiple zergs as well. I can't comment on other platforms \ regions, I would assume that the social groups \ cabals are different.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

DaveTheMinion wrote: »

I have had some awesome sessions in Cyrodill over the last few months, joining random groups to attack and defend, I have also left some groups that just want to play hide and seek in the long grass, but as of last night, EP were dominating the map and they did it well, mass groups of warriors determined to ride over anything in their way.
I joined a group of about 19 players, we were defending Fort Warden, most of us were on the keep wall, lobbing whatever we could find at the attacking hord, but our numbers where just not great enough, they penetrated our outer wall, I ran to the inner keep only to see my group running out of rear of the stronghold and riding away???? only a small handful of gamers were left defending our keep.
We lost the keep and I was forced to respawn at our starting point, I could see my group hovering about at the scroll temple of Ni-Mohk, so I rode out and joined them there, within a few minutes of joining them our temple came under attack, the red flag buggers were after our scroll! a few of us started to battle with the horde, I fell to an arrow in the knee and had a look about to see if I was in anyway revivable, but guess what, the group had again run off into the distance away from the battle????

If your not going to fight, what's the point in grouping up in Cyrodill? or even entering the place, your only filling up spaces that could be used by people who actually want to play PVP! the only other thing that got me was I had to cue to join as the server was full yet after spending over 2 hours trying to find groups who would help me attack and defend I only came across small groups who either ran away or as soon as they got to the sewer entrance they left the group????

I am ashamed to be a member of the DC...... well done to the EP who fought with strength and honour!

The DC do that, I have noticed each alliance seems to do something better then the other 2

- DC are the Zerg Masters but 1 on 1, most people on DC can't fight at all but those that know how to fight must be avoided at all costs as they will usually win most 1 on 1 encounters, they have the weak are useless and are more useful when they are not clogging up the campaign and the strong are unbeatable and can take several players at once mentality thing going on.

- AD lacks coordination but are masters of the Ganking manoeuvre and many appear to be very sneaky they will usually try to attack the keeps you will least expect, they also seemingly have the number's advantage.

- EP seems to be quite powerful 1 on 1, they are somewhat good gankers and good at keep defending but most don't bother with it because the majority are just too lazy to do anything.

I wasn't on last night so I don't know if this is my campaign (PC NA, only real campaign seems to be Azura's Star). That campaign seems to go back and forth a lot (which is good), and the commentary seems to apply to that campaign. We've made that map red before, but we've also been pushed back to where we had nothing.

I PvP on the EP side and three's a couple of guilds that do a really good job of creating and coordinating PUG groups. These groups seem to focus well when taking a keep, not so good when defending. When taking a keep it's fairly easy to set rally points and concentrate fire, defense seems to require better coordination and dynamic tactics.

DC do seem to be the Zerg masters, they run some very tight and well coordinated zergs (or at least 1 guild on their side does, maybe more). They're also good at baiting, I've seen many times where they would allow a keeps outer or inner wall to fall just so they could bring the pain train in from behind. It's a good tactic, and one the EP falls for too often.

AD are good gankers. The running joke is that when you see one AD, there is 8 more in hiding. They seem to run larger gank squads than the other two alliances, a DC gank squad usually consists of 2-4 while an AD gank squad regularly seems to be 4-8. It could also just be the same small guild, all the frikkin time, but who knows. They are also good about taking the keeps you least suspect, there has to be at least one guild that coordinates well enough and uses the right tactics to take a keep fast. It probably has something to do with the fact that two of the three races for that alliance are sneaky (bosmer and khajiit) and they probably have more players that favor that play style. Or maybe it's all just that one small guild of gankers, and when they have enough players on they can take a keep that has a minimal amount of defense.

DaveTheMinion wrote: »

If your not going to fight, what's the point in grouping up in Cyrodill? or even entering the place, your only filling up spaces that could be used by people who actually want to play PVP! the only other thing that got me was I had to cue to join as the server was full yet after spending over 2 hours trying to find groups who would help me attack and defend I only came across small groups who either ran away or as soon as they got to the sewer entrance they left the group????

I honestly never understood the point of "running away" in PvP. If you don't think your group can handle the current situation, you can all die with honor and then "blood port" somewhere more productive. It's possible that some groups who may not do well may hide \ try to stay alive in the hopes that another group is coming, and then the first group can support the new group.

As far as having difficulty finding a group, it may simply be the case that anyone picking up pugs has a full team, and everyone else only wants to play with friends \ guildies. PUGs can be difficult because you often have too many people just off doing their own thing regardless of what the group leader is trying to coordinate. Not everyone enjoys picking up pugs (I have a guild I try to run with, and they're good about picking up pugs, but it's often enough where I am the pug as well). If you're PC NA, the EP side is pretty good about picking up pugs, they will ask that you have team speak and listen in (mic not required) in order to better coordinate. Of course, then you'd have to come to the EP side. When I'm pugging, I've found more success in getting picked up if I say something like "LFG. I have TS and will stack on crown." That sends the message that I'm willing to be part of the group, not just in the group.

firstdecan wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

DC are the Zerg Masters

I loled at this

If we're talking about PC NA I would probably disagree with you \ sgree with the original comment. DC seems to run some pretty tight and well coordinated zergs, and they've been good about coordinating multiple zergs as well. I can't comment on other platforms \ regions, I would assume that the social groups \ cabals are different.

PC EU

The reason I loled at that remark was that even though there are players that claim 1 faction is the "zerg master", while in reality all factions are guilty of "zerging around". And sometimes even outzerging the "zerg master"

Do you underzerg what I'm saying?

Lol you like EP a little too much buddy. Come on over to the dark side whenever you want

Alucardo wrote: »

Mate, this is so far from the truth I'm almost flabbergasted. In every duel I've seen DC absolutely obliterate the enemy. From what I've noticed is, they suck in standard PvP but excel in small-scale fights and those random encounters on the field.

You play DC, yes? Maybe you just don't see what your faction is doing but right now PC NA Azura the only thing making DC climb up in campaign score is fielding 2 raids that run steel tornado trains. I'm sure /you personally/ prefer small group PvP and duels, as do most skilled players, but that's not what's happening on the server at large. You probably don't just notice it because it's not clogging up your death recaps.

DaveTheMinion wrote: »

I joined a group of about 19 players

You actually found 19 DC somewhere in the same campaign?

/boggle

DaveTheMinion wrote: »

I have had some awesome sessions in Cyrodill over the last few months, joining random groups to attack and defend, I have also left some groups that just want to play hide and seek in the long grass, but as of last night, EP were dominating the map and they did it well, mass groups of warriors determined to ride over anything in their way.
I joined a group of about 19 players, we were defending Fort Warden, most of us were on the keep wall, lobbing whatever we could find at the attacking hord, but our numbers where just not great enough, they penetrated our outer wall, I ran to the inner keep only to see my group running out of rear of the stronghold and riding away???? only a small handful of gamers were left defending our keep.
We lost the keep and I was forced to respawn at our starting point, I could see my group hovering about at the scroll temple of Ni-Mohk, so I rode out and joined them there, within a few minutes of joining them our temple came under attack, the red flag buggers were after our scroll! a few of us started to battle with the horde, I fell to an arrow in the knee and had a look about to see if I was in anyway revivable, but guess what, the group had again run off into the distance away from the battle????

If your not going to fight, what's the point in grouping up in Cyrodill? or even entering the place, your only filling up spaces that could be used by people who actually want to play PVP! the only other thing that got me was I had to cue to join as the server was full yet after spending over 2 hours trying to find groups who would help me attack and defend I only came across small groups who either ran away or as soon as they got to the sewer entrance they left the group????

I am ashamed to be a member of the DC...... well done to the EP who fought with strength and honour!

If you are in a alliance who only can take empty keeps while the other two alliances are fighting.... is very normal be ashamed, don't worry

I am talking of Ps4 EU, i don't know how works on PC o Xone, but is a very common to see how when DC players are close to lose a keep....jump, and ride away....the most funny is that having a huge fall damage only a couple of arrows are needed to kill him....but....

The best thing you can do is....switch to other alliance....

jhharvest wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Mate, this is so far from the truth I'm almost flabbergasted. In every duel I've seen DC absolutely obliterate the enemy. From what I've noticed is, they suck in standard PvP but excel in small-scale fights and those random encounters on the field.

You play DC, yes? Maybe you just don't see what your faction is doing but right now PC NA Azura the only thing making DC climb up in campaign score is fielding 2 raids that run steel tornado trains. I'm sure /you personally/ prefer small group PvP and duels, as do most skilled players, but that's not what's happening on the server at large. You probably don't just notice it because it's not clogging up your death recaps.

If you cease clogging my raid with 50-60 bodies at a time I'll consider not clogging your death recap with steel tornado.

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

If your in an alliance that has no race with a tail then that alliance your in is an epic fail!!

that rhymed