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Grief play? Marked to kill by own faction!
Prodigy1971
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I was questing yesterday in Cyrodiil / Bruma. I like questing there, cos the quests give good exp and money, are quickly done and there is a little bit of pvp from time to time.
But yesterday there was a player from my own faction (Daggerfall) that teamed up with some Ebonhearts... I play as NB and rely on stealth alot. That guy wasnt attacked by the Ebonhearts and always showed them my position by standing close to me...
He followed me and I had no chance in hiding from the Ebonhearts (3-4 of them).
So they knew exactly where I was and AOE me out of stealth to easily kill me over and over.
The problem is: I cannot hide from my own faction... and I cannot attack my own faction. So what can I do in this situation other than leave the area???
Edited by Prodigy1971 on 25 September 2015 07:48 But yesterday there was a player from my own faction (Daggerfall) that teamed up with some Ebonhearts... I play as NB and rely on stealth alot. That guy wasnt attacked by the Ebonhearts and always showed them my position by standing close to me...
He followed me and I had no chance in hiding from the Ebonhearts (3-4 of them).
So they knew exactly where I was and AOE me out of stealth to easily kill me over and over.
The problem is: I cannot hide from my own faction... and I cannot attack my own faction. So what can I do in this situation other than leave the area???
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Cathexis✭✭✭✭✭
✭Report them I suppose.
EP is a lame faction my blue brethren. They do lame stuff. At least feel good knowing you are on the right side.Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
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✭✭✭✭Definetly report them.
I would say this is not about a faction; as a die-hard RPer I have characters in every faction. This is about one particular person being a ... well I'm sure any actual descriptive term I use would be censored, so I'll just say #$%!#%@#$
No matter the faction, no player that I respect would act like that.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
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House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Report them I suppose.
EP is a lame faction my blue brethren. They do lame stuff. At least feel good knowing you are on the right side.
Says the faction of zergs and bitting jab spammers.
But back on topic you report them for griefing.Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on 25 September 2015 14:150 -
myrrrorb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Makes me wish for friendly fire.
I personally cant think of anything to do in game. Maybe get some buddies and attack back. Stay close to the guy so he gets hit with some aoes?0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It would be interesting if stealth/invisibility hid you from anyone not in your group.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Tavore1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you are on PC EU this is not new - I've encountered 2 or 3 DC players that will, for example, come and stand in the middle of a stealthed raid and basically wave at the enemy. Just put them on your don't res list - I don't think they are breaking any actual rules nor whether they are actively spying or just trolls.GM - Malazan
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Yonkit✭✭✭✭✭Spying & forming Alliances is a valid tactic in Cyrodiil as confirmed by Brian Wheeler in a very old thread buried somewhere on the forums, the only thing you can do is not go back really, change campaigns or wait a little bit, yes the Covenant player is being an *** but there's nothing you can do about it, and reporting him isn't going to get anything accomplished.Has an Alter Ego in the form of a very large quadrupedal black & white Bear.1 -
NativeJoe✭✭✭✭✭Happens ALL the time. especially if there is something to be gained. (cracked wood cave) Now I've never done what the OP has done...
But while I've been in some DC pvp guilds a tactic has been to get a player in an enemy raid, and over TS figure out where that raid is and bring the rest of the group ball behind them and slaughter them. Not many of us Pvp'ers like the tactic at all...but it is and has been done for a long long time. Reporting it will do nothing. while it may technically be against the rules or whatever; it is unenforceable.
Only thing u can do is Name them in the pvp guilds as a pvp spy, and he won't get invited to those ever again. Only thing u can really do.650cp+ Sorcerer 100+ days /played
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭He may not have been a spy. He may have just been, well, *not smart*.
If it was spy behavior, there should be a way to mark someone for espionage.
Treason during time of war, of course punishable by death.
Get marked legitimately this way, and there should be no more stealth nor friendly heals - you become an enemy to all factions.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Mr_Nobody✭✭✭✭✭SuraklinPrime wrote: »If you are on PC EU this is not new - I've encountered 2 or 3 DC players that will, for example, come and stand in the middle of a stealthed raid and basically wave at the enemy. Just put them on your don't res list - I don't think they are breaking any actual rules nor whether they are actively spying or just trolls.
I will, most of the time, come in and jump visible on a stealthed DC raid just because i hate and do not promote this kind of gameplay. If you are not happy about it, you are welcome to leave the campaign.2 -
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✭✭SuraklinPrime wrote: »If you are on PC EU this is not new - I've encountered 2 or 3 DC players that will, for example, come and stand in the middle of a stealthed raid and basically wave at the enemy. Just put them on your don't res list - I don't think they are breaking any actual rules nor whether they are actively spying or just trolls.
I will, most of the time, come in and jump visible on a stealthed DC raid just because i hate and do not promote this kind of gameplay. If you are not happy about it, you are welcome to leave the campaign.
You mean you do not like people using tactics in a war game so you feel you have some sort of right to disrupt others? You juat be a delight to know irl!
Well nothing in the rules to stop you being that way and I doubt my contempt will stop you either.
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Prodigy1971 wrote: »I was questing yesterday in Cyrodiil / Bruma. I like questing there, cos the quests give good exp and money, are quickly done and there is a little bit of pvp from time to time.
But yesterday there was a player from my own faction (Daggerfall) that teamed up with some Ebonhearts... I play as NB and rely on stealth alot. That guy wasnt attacked by the Ebonhearts and always showed them my position by standing close to me...
He followed me and I had no chance in hiding from the Ebonhearts (3-4 of them).
So they knew exactly where I was and AOE me out of stealth to easily kill me over and over.
The problem is: I cannot hide from my own faction... and I cannot attack my own faction. So what can I do in this situation other than leave the area???
If you're one of those annoying NBs who blinks in and out so your opponent can't land any hits.... this could be the reason you have enemies. Just sayin'
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Auricle✭✭✭✭✭I've had this happen before, six-ish months ago on my DC char, with AD using one of our own to track people. I whispered the DC dude, politely asking him to stealth so the AD zerg couldn't see us. I got no response, just a /wave. I promptly used zone chat to declare him a TRAITOR (gasp!) and telling people not to group with him. He backed off after that.0 -
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✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
@Forestd16b14_ESO
People playing a class in a zerg game zerging using class skills? PREPOSTEROUS!Edited by Cathexis on 26 September 2015 17:05Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
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Cathexis✭✭✭✭✭
✭timidobserver wrote: »It would be interesting if stealth/invisibility hid you from anyone not in your group.
THIS.Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
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Mr_Nobody✭✭✭✭✭SuraklinPrime wrote: »SuraklinPrime wrote: »If you are on PC EU this is not new - I've encountered 2 or 3 DC players that will, for example, come and stand in the middle of a stealthed raid and basically wave at the enemy. Just put them on your don't res list - I don't think they are breaking any actual rules nor whether they are actively spying or just trolls.
I will, most of the time, come in and jump visible on a stealthed DC raid just because i hate and do not promote this kind of gameplay. If you are not happy about it, you are welcome to leave the campaign.
You mean you do not like people using tactics in a war game so you feel you have some sort of right to disrupt others? You juat be a delight to know irl!
Well nothing in the rules to stop you being that way and I doubt my contempt will stop you either.
There is a difference between using tactics in a war game and playing like a (insert a word). My eyes are bleeding. I would, as i said, jump in unstealthed and give away your position so you would fight and actually learn to PvP.Edited by Mr_Nobody on 28 September 2015 19:470 -
a.skelton92✭✭✭SuraklinPrime wrote: »SuraklinPrime wrote: »If you are on PC EU this is not new - I've encountered 2 or 3 DC players that will, for example, come and stand in the middle of a stealthed raid and basically wave at the enemy. Just put them on your don't res list - I don't think they are breaking any actual rules nor whether they are actively spying or just trolls.
I will, most of the time, come in and jump visible on a stealthed DC raid just because i hate and do not promote this kind of gameplay. If you are not happy about it, you are welcome to leave the campaign.
You mean you do not like people using tactics in a war game so you feel you have some sort of right to disrupt others? You juat be a delight to know irl!
Well nothing in the rules to stop you being that way and I doubt my contempt will stop you either.
There is a difference between using tactics in a war game and playing like a (insert a word). My eyes are bleeding. I would, as i said, jump in unstealthed and give away your position so you would fight and actually learn to PvP.
I actually agree with you to be honest. The fact that 50 people all in their shiny pimp robes and massive spiky armour can apparently "stealth" or "hide" in the middle of a field is just stupid. And lets face it, 9 times out of 10 it is not a valid tactic used by 'x' zerg to sneak up on 'x' zerg.. The chances are, the stealthed group will be too frightened to attack the other group running past but will instead wait for that 1 straggler to go past.
I have seen it time and time again and have been in a group that has used this "tactic" to take down that mighty level 10. So yes, I would probably do the same as you nowadays.
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Springt-Über-Zwerge✭✭✭✭Report them I suppose.
EP is a lame faction my blue brethren. They do lame stuff. At least feel good knowing you are on the right side.
Sorry but im ep player and encountered the exact same thing with blue players tooPC,EU, EP
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david31741✭✭yeah, i miss old skool stealth for this reason. I am unsure why we are visible to our faction when stealthed...Adrianne Avenicci - Warmaiden of Whiterun
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