Rearming Trap

Docmandu · September 2015

As reported a month ago on PTS, Rearming trap is buggy.. and people are now actively exploiting it on live.

Reported 19 aug on PTS - http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/208918/rearming-trap

jelliedsoup · September 2015

Yep is very annoying.

Neglnnich or something like that.

tonemd · September 2015

Has ZOS actually weighed in on this skill?

Docmandu · September 2015

tonemd wrote: »

Has ZOS actually weighed in on this skill?

Not AFAIK...

Skill is even more buggy than expected.. got 1 shot by such a trap. Death recall showed 22k trap damage + 6k trap damage, while I didn't run over any traps before and both numbers displayed the same player name, so couldn't have been a stacked trap. I was instantly killed, no rearming at all.

That was on a VR15 or 16 stamplar (dinged VR16 yesterday, so not sure if it was before or after the ding) in 6 medium/1 heavy with something like 14k phys resists. Clearly working as intended.

Funny thing is, after seeing the exploit, a few minutes later I saw players from our side suddenly trying out the skill. ZOS really taught us well !

r.jan_emailb16_ESO · September 2015

I noticed this as well. I think my combat log showed literally hundreds of small hits in very, very fast succession.

Docmandu · September 2015

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

I noticed this as well. I think my combat log showed literally hundreds of small hits in very, very fast succession.

That's what usually happens, but most of the time you see it triggering constantly.. but guess at times the delay between 2 triggers is so small that you don't even see it.

Prediction:

IC will be a mine field by the end of the week.

Kerioko · September 2015

New sorc escape, drop a rearming trap in the center of daedric mines in a tunnel. Anyone that follows is one-shot!

Nivzruo_ESO · September 2015

Easily avoidable.

Earendal · September 2015

Nivzruo_ESO wrote: »

Easily avoidable.

Entertaining response from someone who uses it regularly.

twistedmonk · September 2015

Exploit Early, Exploit Often

How long was the nirnhone bug in game? Sharpened bug?

people exploited that for at least 6+ months before ZOS fixed it...

Rise of the Rearming Trappers!

Erock25 · September 2015

I use this skill and never noticed it one shotting anyone. It is a shame because it is paramount to my build to get that extra critical damage, but I guess I'll have to stop using it. The problem is that I have no idea how long ZOS will take to fix this, so it could be months of not using it while everyone else exploits the heck out of it.

Forestd16b14_ESO · September 2015

Wait what ? I though trap was that useless that even exploits didn't help.... What type of Doctor Who shite is this that trap is actually useful.

Kas · September 2015

twistedmonk wrote: »

Exploit Early, Exploit Often

How long was the nirnhone bug in game? Sharpened bug?

people exploited that for at least 6+ months before ZOS fixed it...

Rise of the Rearming Trappers!

caltrops and ele wall took quite a lot of time. this one's worse, though. i guess it will only take 2 months ^^

ToRelax · September 2015

Kas wrote: »

twistedmonk wrote: »

Exploit Early, Exploit Often

How long was the nirnhone bug in game? Sharpened bug?

people exploited that for at least 6+ months before ZOS fixed it...

Rise of the Rearming Trappers!

caltrops and ele wall took quite a lot of time. this one's worse, though. i guess it will only take 2 months ^^

You remember Deadric Mines producing earthquakes at the start of 1.6... ? That just didn't get much attention because the levelled out ability never exploded several times.

Hexys · September 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Kas wrote: »

twistedmonk wrote: »

Exploit Early, Exploit Often

How long was the nirnhone bug in game? Sharpened bug?

people exploited that for at least 6+ months before ZOS fixed it...

Rise of the Rearming Trappers!

caltrops and ele wall took quite a lot of time. this one's worse, though. i guess it will only take 2 months ^^

You remember Deadric Mines producing earthquakes at the start of 1.6... ? That just didn't get much attention because the levelled out ability never exploded several times.

Haha, when it started to lagg but just not enough that the mines would go down on the ground and arm after like 6 seconds, while an enemy player who is standing on these spots for 6 seconds would get 6 mine hits and mostly die. XD

Poxheart · September 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Wait what ? I though trap was that useless that even exploits didn't help.... What type of Doctor Who shite is this that trap is actually useful.

When placed in the tight confines of the IC sewers it is sometimes very difficult to see and the rearming trap morph has a tendency to proc multiple times a second, resulting in death before you know what hit you.

CP5 · September 2015

Poxheart wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Wait what ? I though trap was that useless that even exploits didn't help.... What type of Doctor Who shite is this that trap is actually useful.

When placed in the tight confines of the IC sewers it is sometimes very difficult to see and the rearming trap morph has a tendency to proc multiple times a second, resulting in death before you know what hit you.

Hostiles can't see the traps. That was something ZOS implemented a little while ago to make the traps, traps. That is, if that is still working.

Ahzek · September 2015

@hexys that is still possible as far as i know. In the 1.6 PTS however a rank 3 minefield would continuosly procc on its victims, if at least 2 people stepped on the sa,e trap at about the same time. Lag didnt matter with this issue.
Funny interaction with that was how Ball of lightning, since it counts as a "summoned creature" with hitbox and everything would trigger the mines, as well as the player teleporting, often resulting in near insta-death, if you didnt roll out quickly. I remember quite a few duels with @ToRelax that ended prematurely due to that bug.
(Lazy EP hasnt even fully leveled his skills !)

On topic: while i tested trap beast (the ranged morph) on PTS there seemed to be a similar bug to how minefield behaved back then, with the trap continously activating when at least 2 people (or Pets

) would step on it simultaneously. However i have not experienced any oneshots yet.

saiyan_84 · September 2015

I got killed by this for the first time this morning. Had no idea wtf had happened. Now I know. I also know that the guy who is doing this is a terrible player. You know who u are. Next time bring some friends man cause you cant cut it in a 1v1 fight.

ZOS_BrianWheeler · September 2015

Forwarded over to the Combat gang to look into.

Lava_Croft · September 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Forwarded over to the Combat gang to look into.

Comments like this about a bug reported quite a while ago are just disheartening.

Waffennacht · September 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Forwarded over to the Combat gang to look into.

Excellent, i really don't want this destroying PvP

Docmandu · September 2015

@ZOS_BrianWheeler Cool now also forward the 1+ year old in-combat bug which you yourself ran into while trying to go nekkid during a live play session :-)

Junkogen · September 2015

There always seem to be a lot of problems originating from "the Combat gang."

Anzo · September 2015

That in combat bug though. So much fun as a NB.

ecceau · September 2015

Please fix this asap, people are using the exploit to farm the new vet dungeons, which makes me hating the game right now.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · September 2015

ecceau wrote: »

Please fix this asap, people are using the exploit to farm the new vet dungeons, which makes me hating the game right now.

There is also an item called a bear trap you get from a quest. Apparently this worked on the freaking Mantikora from SO.

That was hilarious. Just learn to laugh at these bugs. History tells us they are usually left in the game for months before they get a fix.

tangy.citrus · September 2015

ecceau wrote: »

Please fix this asap, people are using the exploit to farm the new vet dungeons, which makes me hating the game right now.

Yeah, this is ***. Hot fix this ***! So many people clearing the vet dungeons who cant do it normally and now have the helm when they never earned it.

Docmandu · September 2015

Exploiters now figured out that the best chance of exploiting is dropping one just as you pass a door in the sewers, since people are certain to land on it when they go through.

Huckdabuck · September 2015

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/220552/hotfix-9-28-15-trap-beast

Garion · September 2015

Huckdabuck wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/220552/hotfix-9-28-15-trap-beast

trololol