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[BUG] Trap Beast multi-spam

  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    rokrdt05 wrote: »
    So re-arming trap beast basicly re-arms till you die..... eerrrrrrrrr K that needs fixed but seeing how ZOS is still dragging there feet about fixing block casting and shield stacking doubt it will get patched any time soon.

    Block Casting has been part of the game since launch and ZoS has stated that this isn't an exploit/bug... shield stacking is also not an exploit or bug, but a smart use of existing mechanics. All classes could shield stack, but sorcs made infamous. Most people frown on shield stacking because they either lack the burst or see it as an unfair advantage.

    That's the joke there abuse mechanics that clearly need fixed or removed but ZOS won't do it because they want them in either though there clearly abused and broken. Kinda silly how a player can cast there powerful skills and spells while only taking half damage or what ever block actual blocks.
    Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on 22 September 2015 00:51
  • OrphanHelgen
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    This bugged trap also causes us to relog in order to reset our health. Often, after hitting the trap you cannot be rezzed (or cannot accept a rez).

    As shown here.
    Here is a video, [sorry about the quality/audio]:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2sRJ_ygELw

    ugm rearming treap 1600 dmg what was the problem again?

    Its not just that, its unavoidable sometimes.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno You guys doing anything about this? The sewers are getting pretty stupid.

    I'm sorry I didn't see them stacked
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  • efpadsz_ESO
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    StihlReign wrote: »
    This bugged trap also causes us to relog in order to reset our health. Often, after hitting the trap you cannot be rezzed (or cannot accept a rez).

    As shown here.
    Here is a video, [sorry about the quality/audio]:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2sRJ_ygELw

    ugm rearming treap 1600 dmg what was the problem again?

    Its not just that, its unavoidable sometimes.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno You guys doing anything about this? The sewers are getting pretty stupid.

    I'm sorry I didn't see them stacked

    Also, it has something to do with Camouflaged Hunter, you can see it do damage that shouldnt be possible after the PVP damage nurf.
  • Master_Kas
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    Seen people using this skill more lately.

    Tough never fallen for it's bug. My ep nightblade is a vampire and some ad nub planted it in a tight area (didn't know it then until I stepped on it. Didn't take Any noticable damage as I just dodgerolled out of it.

    The nub died shortly after.

    After reading this thread I find it amusing that he failed abusing a broken skill :trollface:
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Seen people using this skill more lately.

    Tough never fallen for it's bug. My ep nightblade is a vampire and some ad nub planted it in a tight area (didn't know it then until I stepped on it. Didn't take Any noticable damage as I just dodgerolled out of it.

    The nub died shortly after.

    After reading this thread I find it amusing that he failed abusing a broken skill :trollface:

    ..... I don't if that's a good thing he done F'ed up a exploit or a bad thing that he tried to do a exploit to begin with.
  • Gilliamtherogue
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Seen people using this skill more lately.

    Tough never fallen for it's bug. My ep nightblade is a vampire and some ad nub planted it in a tight area (didn't know it then until I stepped on it. Didn't take Any noticable damage as I just dodgerolled out of it.

    The nub died shortly after.

    After reading this thread I find it amusing that he failed abusing a broken skill :trollface:

    It's not broken inherently. Simply placing it does not trigger it's multi proc effect (I would know, I use it for the crit hit damage buff of Minor Force, and I have only had it proc once in SO on mantikora when I got sucked underground and my trap was upstairs under him), there's something that must be done preemptively for it to bug out. I've used it in PvP numerous times and have had it work completely fine, where it hits the target, then rearms and hits them again after the 6 second wait timer. This is an exploit players are actively using via some trigger, it requires some action or something to get it to trigger (I have no idea how it works).
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  • Corrupted_Soul
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    Thanks for the tips guys.
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  • Master_Kas
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Seen people using this skill more lately.

    Tough never fallen for it's bug. My ep nightblade is a vampire and some ad nub planted it in a tight area (didn't know it then until I stepped on it. Didn't take Any noticable damage as I just dodgerolled out of it.

    The nub died shortly after.

    After reading this thread I find it amusing that he failed abusing a broken skill :trollface:

    It's not broken inherently. Simply placing it does not trigger it's multi proc effect (I would know, I use it for the crit hit damage buff of Minor Force, and I have only had it proc once in SO on mantikora when I got sucked underground and my trap was upstairs under him), there's something that must be done preemptively for it to bug out. I've used it in PvP numerous times and have had it work completely fine, where it hits the target, then rearms and hits them again after the 6 second wait timer. This is an exploit players are actively using via some trigger, it requires some action or something to get it to trigger (I have no idea how it works).

    No trigger needed. Just enough people bunched up stepping over it at the same time :P
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  • Gilliamtherogue
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Seen people using this skill more lately.

    Tough never fallen for it's bug. My ep nightblade is a vampire and some ad nub planted it in a tight area (didn't know it then until I stepped on it. Didn't take Any noticable damage as I just dodgerolled out of it.

    The nub died shortly after.

    After reading this thread I find it amusing that he failed abusing a broken skill :trollface:

    It's not broken inherently. Simply placing it does not trigger it's multi proc effect (I would know, I use it for the crit hit damage buff of Minor Force, and I have only had it proc once in SO on mantikora when I got sucked underground and my trap was upstairs under him), there's something that must be done preemptively for it to bug out. I've used it in PvP numerous times and have had it work completely fine, where it hits the target, then rearms and hits them again after the 6 second wait timer. This is an exploit players are actively using via some trigger, it requires some action or something to get it to trigger (I have no idea how it works).

    No trigger needed. Just enough people bunched up stepping over it at the same time :P

    That's actually not it at all, after some digging and testing (for bug report purposes, which have been sent in sparing no expense to detail) it's something much less difficult. I'm actually surprised more people didn't find out how to do it sooner. Since it's an exploit I can't explain it to the public since that'd be bad, but I urge anyone on this thread who actually can replicate it, to send in bug reports until ZoS realizes the urgency and hot fixes it or forces a patch.
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  • ZOS_aoliver
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    Thanks to everyone in this thread for bringing the issue to our attention. We are aware of the problem and have a fix being tested. We hope to have it ready for incremental patches on all platforms.
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  • kaorunandrak
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    So I get it's a bug and have run into these numerous times but roll dodgeing backwards has always kept me from getting instagibbed, how are you guys getting killed by this? Is it supposed to keep you from roll dodgeing? Am I bugged?
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  • MrGrimey
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    Zergers be mad... Maybe if you guys didn't stack on top of each other, you can avoid them
  • Phaedrus
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    Thanks to everyone in this thread for bringing the issue to our attention. We are aware of the problem and have a fix being tested. We hope to have it ready for incremental patches on all platforms.

    Simply not good enough. As has been the story since day one. This should be a hotfix implemented within hours of being reported on PTS a month ago.
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  • Poxheart
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    Phaedrus wrote: »
    Thanks to everyone in this thread for bringing the issue to our attention. We are aware of the problem and have a fix being tested. We hope to have it ready for incremental patches on all platforms.

    Simply not good enough. As has been the story since day one. This should be a hotfix implemented within hours of being reported on PTS a month ago.

    At the very least the ability should be disabled until the fix is ready (as should have been done with Caltrops back when they stopped damage to siege weapons).
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  • StevieKingslayer
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    Can confirm this happened to me and a small group of five on Haderus NA PC yesterday whilst taking a resource. Instagibbed everyone expect myself who was a healer and just power healed my way thru it. Thankfully I could rez people but there was deff only ONE AD doing it.
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  • Cathexis
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    Personally I think making trap beast do crazy damage is AWESOME. It should legit do 25k to players.

    Think of the dimension this adds to imperial sewers PvP combat.
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  • Zaldan
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    everyone is saying 24k/25k damage which puzzles me as I've had them hitting for 40K, guild group on way to centre boss in sewers stepped on one of these in narrow tunnel and everyone had between 30k and 50K rearming trap on death recap.
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  • Tsute
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    Personally I think making trap beast do crazy damage is AWESOME. It should legit do 25k to players.

    Think of the dimension this adds to imperial sewers PvP combat.

    If by dimension you mean the hell dimension of the cenobytes, in which pain, suffering, pleasure, and ecstasy are indistinguishable as the skin is flayed from your body, you're absolutely right.
  • Cathexis
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    Tsute wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Personally I think making trap beast do crazy damage is AWESOME. It should legit do 25k to players.

    Think of the dimension this adds to imperial sewers PvP combat.

    If by dimension you mean the hell dimension of the cenobytes, in which pain, suffering, pleasure, and ecstasy are indistinguishable as the skin is flayed from your body, you're absolutely right.

    What it looks like to me is a small group anti zerg ability that can't be abused by zergs itself.
    Edited by Cathexis on 25 September 2015 19:07
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  • Poxheart
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    Tsute wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Personally I think making trap beast do crazy damage is AWESOME. It should legit do 25k to players.

    Think of the dimension this adds to imperial sewers PvP combat.

    If by dimension you mean the hell dimension of the cenobytes, in which pain, suffering, pleasure, and ecstasy are indistinguishable as the skin is flayed from your body, you're absolutely right.

    What it looks like to me is a small group anti zerg ability that can't be abused by zergs itself.

    Oh it can (and is) abused by zergs as well.
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  • Saint_JiubB14_ESO
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    Thanks to everyone in this thread for bringing the issue to our attention. We are aware of the problem and have a fix being tested. We hope to have it ready for incremental patches on all platforms.

    Are you kidding? Are pc players going to have to wait for consoles? The console patch is like 1 month away.
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  • Master_Kas
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Seen people using this skill more lately.

    Tough never fallen for it's bug. My ep nightblade is a vampire and some ad nub planted it in a tight area (didn't know it then until I stepped on it. Didn't take Any noticable damage as I just dodgerolled out of it.

    The nub died shortly after.

    After reading this thread I find it amusing that he failed abusing a broken skill :trollface:

    It's not broken inherently. Simply placing it does not trigger it's multi proc effect (I would know, I use it for the crit hit damage buff of Minor Force, and I have only had it proc once in SO on mantikora when I got sucked underground and my trap was upstairs under him), there's something that must be done preemptively for it to bug out. I've used it in PvP numerous times and have had it work completely fine, where it hits the target, then rearms and hits them again after the 6 second wait timer. This is an exploit players are actively using via some trigger, it requires some action or something to get it to trigger (I have no idea how it works).

    No trigger needed. Just enough people bunched up stepping over it at the same time :P

    That's actually not it at all, after some digging and testing (for bug report purposes, which have been sent in sparing no expense to detail) it's something much less difficult. I'm actually surprised more people didn't find out how to do it sooner. Since it's an exploit I can't explain it to the public since that'd be bad, but I urge anyone on this thread who actually can replicate it, to send in bug reports until ZoS realizes the urgency and hot fixes it or forces a patch.

    I did replicate it without using any "trigger". Didn't work on single players or small groups of players who dodgerolled it fast enough. On bunched up people who don't roll it works 9 out of 10 times.

    Done a bug report. Will be fixed soon :trollface:
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  • andylarson770b14_ESO
    maybe its mutiple players placing traps all stacked it doesnt have a name of the player tied to the dmg just rearming trap
  • Reverb
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    Its not just bugged for pvp. All weekend my guilds have been "requiring" team members who run rearming trap for dungeon farming and trials. Bosses are dying in seconds.
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  • Poxheart
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    Reverb wrote: »
    Its not just bugged for pvp. All weekend my guilds have been "requiring" team members who run rearming trap for dungeon farming and trials. Bosses are dying in seconds.

    Well now we know the skill will be fixed immediately!
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  • tonemd
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    Fixing eh? Oh well, twas fun while it lasted.

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  • ryanmjmcevoy_ESO
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    So, I don't want to know how to do it, but I want to know if it's easy to accidentally do? I'd like to use the skill for its intended purposes, but I don't want to if it's just always gonna be bugged like this no matter what I do.
  • Daveheart
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    So, I don't want to know how to do it, but I want to know if it's easy to accidentally do? I'd like to use the skill for its intended purposes, but I don't want to if it's just always gonna be bugged like this no matter what I do.

    If you don't want to be abusing this in PvP, just don't equip it at all.
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  • Huckdabuck
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    Since it had a way to help players receive gear and loots.....Ta Da! http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/220552/hotfix-9-28-15-trap-beast
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