How many Alliance differences have you found that seem to show Favoritism?

Casdha · September 2015

How many Alliance differences have you found in game that could be construed as showing Favoritism by the development team?

Now examples I use here don't show a clear winner but I have noticed some and they do affect game play or at least enjoyment of the game. For instance:

AD - Ayren shows up right off the bat, DC - Emeric shows up in the 3rd zone, EP - Jorunn shows up in the 4th zone. (More time with major Actor)

EP has a ton more backpacks and cabinets and vases that I've found in its IC safe zone than DC does (good for things like Lorkhan' tears and no danger of being killed). I've not seen AD yet

AD has the best treasure chest zone in the game with Khenarthis's Roost. This gives AD and folks who don't like Cadwell's silver and Gold the early advantage for making gold and building the legerdemain skill but EP gets the most profit from this as it is in their Cadwell's Gold content.

DC by far has the best buildings to steal multiple good items in one location.

AD seems to have the best Guild trader area in the game (everything is fairly close together) which means AD has first access to it, EP has last.

AD also seems to have the best Crafting Zones with little to no travel between stations. with the exception of the next one

EP seems to be the only starting zone with a complete compliment of bank and crafting, at least in one location.

Are there any that you can think of? Can anyone come up with a clear winner or do the differences in one seemed balanced with another? Are mine incorrect and it is only how I've been perceiving it?

JWT · September 2015

tl;dr, just have an alt in every faction and farm/loot between the three accordingly

AlnilamE · September 2015

I think it all balances out and the "winner" comes down to personal preference.

However, I have to disagree with a few. I think Bal Foyen is just as good as Khenarthi's Roost for chests. And I'm quite sure Stros M'Kai was good too, but I haven't spent much time there. And for pure crafting/decon/banking I have not found a place better than Bal Foyen (though Shornhelm in Rivenspire is a close second for equipment crafting).

And Stros M'Kai pretty much has all the crafting right by the bank again.

So again, I think it's personal preference more than anything else that determines a "winner".

Casdha · September 2015

Well, honestly what got me to thinking about this again was when I visited the DC IC base for the first time and found that I didn't have 8 to 10 backpacks and 6 to 8 furniture containers which contain items other than food and drink mats (I'd have to count to get exact numbers) like I do in the EP IC base. In the DC IC base I found maybe 2 of each non food containers. But I'm sure now that I've mentioned this it will get changed. Does anyone know how many are in AD IC Base.

This may not sound like much but it provides Lorkhan's tears for VR15 pots without any danger to collecting. I'm sitting on 40 in the bank now without much effort. How many folks PvP in all 3 alliance zones?

I've not found Lorkhan's tears in anything but these types of containers in IC, but then again I ain't done much looking either.

Elder_III · September 2015

I'm not too worried about anything mentioned since it all balances out with the exception of the IC bases containers. I only PvP with DC and we have a backpack, a nightstand, and a wardrobe in our base. That's it.... your telling me AD has over a DOZEN? Nerf the Bananas. nerf them hard... (I'm half serious, half sarcastic).

Jakhajay · September 2015

I just look at the upcoming DLC. No AD love there...

Elder_III · September 2015

Jakhajay wrote: »

I just look at the upcoming DLC. No AD love there...

Orsinium? That will be an area for all 3 Alliances to go to...

badmojo · September 2015

AD has way more target dummies at their siege range.
AD has better looking home base locations in Cyrodiil.
AD has more aylid wells in Cyrodiil.
AD has the only ocean water fishing hole in Cyrodiil.
AD has more places where you can instantly log out.
AD has the only popular city that isn't a capital, Rawl Kha.
AD has Kate Beckinsale.
AD has Razum Dar, can you name a secondary character in DC or EP storylines? I can't.
AD has skooma.
AD only makes you do one tutorial area, while EP and DC have to do two.

I'm sure there are lots more that I've noticed, but I try my best to ignore them.

Xendyn · September 2015

[quote="Casdha;2245266"]Well, honestly what got me to thinking about this again was when I visited the DC IC base for the first time and found that I didn't have 8 to 10 backpacks and 6 to 8 furniture containers which contain items other than food and drink mats (I'd have to count to get exact numbers) like I do in the EP IC base. In the DC IC base I found maybe 2 of each non food containers. But I'm sure now that I've mentioned this it will get changed. Does anyone know how many are in AD IC Base.

This may not sound like much but it provides Lorkhan's tears for VR15 pots without any danger to collecting. I'm sitting on 40 in the bank now without much effort. How many folks PvP in all 3 alliance zones?

I've not found Lorkhan's tears in anything but these types of containers in IC, but then again I ain't done much looking either.[/quote]

Elder_III wrote: »

I'm not too worried about anything mentioned since it all balances out with the exception of the IC bases containers. I only PvP with DC and we have a backpack, a nightstand, and a wardrobe in our base. That's it.... your telling me AD has over a DOZEN? Nerf the Bananas. nerf them hard... (I'm half serious, half sarcastic).

Bolded part. He said EP not AD. He is asking for info on AD.

Wing · September 2015

c'mon now, AD had no dwemer ruins, we got screwed when dwemer motif came out.

k-roost is nice, its cool having the starter zone be one big one then 2 split, I liked bleakrock and loved stros'mkai, didn't care for the second starters though.

we got beckinsale true, but she was kind of vanilla as far as the character goes, and both her and razum kinda stop being interesting after auridon.

rawl, well you got us, that place is awesome.

auridon is pretty, but giant magic forest looses is charm by the time your in the 4th one, thank god reapers march looked different.

while EP has the most varied zones I didn't care for much of morrowind or shadowfen, it was nice getting back to skyrim but its the last zones for EP.

DC has by far my most favorite zones, as well as some of the most interesting NPC's, emeric was my favorite leader, dorian was awesome, the alik'ir is my favorite zone in the game, didn't care for the story too much as I had just gotten through with zombies at that point, but I love the desert. bangkoria was crowded and underused though, too much wasted space, didn't like it too much.

meh, everywhere has there ups and down, I'm glad its that way and one place is not just better.

Lenikus · September 2015

Aldmeri Dominion wins the 3 banner wars, lore-wise,
Of course, Talos comes in and craps on the whole thing, but Still.
AD was the most successful of all 3. Just look at the other games of the ES series. Has ANY of the other 2 factions survived the test of time ? No? ... Only Aldmeri Dominion with the Thalmor still kicking? ... As i tought.

dodgehopper_ESO · September 2015

The EP use to have better prices on Oils than everyone else. I believe that was fixed in 1.5 or 1.6. I can't remember which.

Tylersoh · September 2015

badmojo wrote: »

AD has way more target dummies at their siege range.
AD has better looking home base locations in Cyrodiil.
AD has more aylid wells in Cyrodiil.
AD has the only ocean water fishing hole in Cyrodiil.
AD has more places where you can instantly log out.
AD has the only popular city that isn't a capital, Rawl Kha.
AD has Kate Beckinsale.
AD has Razum Dar, can you name a secondary character in DC or EP storylines? I can't.
AD has skooma.
AD only makes you do one tutorial area, while EP and DC have to do two.

I'm sure there are lots more that I've noticed, but I try my best to ignore them.

Darien Gautier

Kuroinu · September 2015

EP has snow, EP wins.

Selique · September 2015

badmojo wrote: »

AD has way more target dummies at their siege range.
AD has better looking home base locations in Cyrodiil.
AD has more aylid wells in Cyrodiil.
AD has the only ocean water fishing hole in Cyrodiil.
AD has more places where you can instantly log out.
AD has the only popular city that isn't a capital, Rawl Kha.
AD has Kate Beckinsale.
AD has Razum Dar, can you name a secondary character in DC or EP storylines? I can't.
AD has skooma.
AD only makes you do one tutorial area, while EP and DC have to do two.

I'm sure there are lots more that I've noticed, but I try my best to ignore them.

EP has the coolest Zones (I love Shadowfen, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.)
EP has Argonians (Master Race)! Argonians are certified bad asses. They have Shadowscales and invade Oblivion. Enough said. They also have Nords, which are epic. Ysgrammor and such.
EP has Stormhold (A great city for crafting), Riftten (A popular non-capitol city) and Windhelm (Another one).
EP has Naryu, Eyes-Of-Steel, and General Noramil. Plus the Pantsless Nord, he was a hoot.
EP has Living Demi-Gods on their side

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EP has the coolest IC Armor (Again, beauty and the beholder yadda yadda).
EP also has many many many Dwemer Ruins (I think more than DC even).

I think you should spend more time in EP my friend! Its just as cool (If not cooler) than AD!

badmojo · September 2015

Selique wrote: »

I think you should spend more time in EP my friend! Its just as cool (If not cooler) than AD!

That's the thing, I have barely played as AD, I originally made two AD characters and ended up deleting the one and the other is my clothier so sadly I can't delete her, but she's stuck at level 35 forever because I can't bring myself to play on that alliance. The only reason I know that their Cyrodiil home bases are nicer and they have more dummies is because I had to gain 15k AP a while back to change campaigns so my DC characters could get into one. I hate the Dominion with every fiber of my being, and so do all my characters. The one AD character I deleted was a highelf sorc, I replaced him with his brother, a high elf storm mage who has left the Dominion out of his hatred for it and his evil pyromancer of a brother, and now he's my highest level, most played character.

I have no beef with EP. They're alright in my books.

afgncaap7 · September 2015

Ebonheart Pact has Naryu. What else do you need?

LordSemaj · September 2015

Ebonheart has a partially vampiric king.

Casdha · September 2015

I can never seem to get a character to VR levels in AD. It might have something to do with my other two heavy use characters being in AD at the same time (silver and gold) and I just couldn't stand doing it 3 times in a row when every quest counted. I might give it a go soon, but that will be time spent that could be earning CP with another toon.

I'd still like someone from AD to give me an idea of how many non food loot nodes are in the AD IC base camp. I counted I think 20 in EP this morning, there are probably double that of food containing loot nodes there as well (crates and sacks).

Just in a week of only looking at the EP base camp in IC on my way in and out, I've gotten 4 blue motifs, about 30 green VR15 recipes, about 15 blue, and 5 purple, About 100 Lorkhan's Tears, and about 4 or 5 Xvikin pieces to deconstruct (that don't count the zero value ones I never pick up or base race items). It can add up especially when it is all VR15 stuff.

Note I don't think EP should have less I think DC should have more, not sure about AD.

Elder_III · September 2015

Elder_III wrote: »

I'm not too worried about anything mentioned since it all balances out with the exception of the IC bases containers. I only PvP with DC and we have a backpack, a nightstand, and a wardrobe in our base. That's it.... your telling me AD has over a DOZEN? Nerf the Bananas. nerf them hard... (I'm half serious, half sarcastic).

Bolded part. He said EP not AD. He is asking for info on AD.[/quote]

Sorry, my bad ---- Nerf the Raspberries I say, nerf them! (actually, drop about 15 more desks or similar into DC's base and I'm just as happy).

Tessie · September 2015

I don't care how AD ends up with DC as its third (gikzone. They have few good grind spots for a VR10 zone as many of the grind areas flip to bounty earning civilians after you complete the quest. Yes, I know there are some spots, just seem like less than the other factions.

Mojmir · September 2015

complete caldwells silver and the favoritism stops, u have access to everything

tplink3r1 · September 2015

AD has Altmer and cats, nothing can beat that.

Osteos · September 2015

badmojo wrote: »

AD has way more target dummies at their siege range.
AD has better looking home base locations in Cyrodiil.
AD has more aylid wells in Cyrodiil.
AD has the only ocean water fishing hole in Cyrodiil.
AD has more places where you can instantly log out.
AD has the only popular city that isn't a capital, Rawl Kha.
AD has Kate Beckinsale.
AD has Razum Dar, can you name a secondary character in DC or EP storylines? I can't.
AD has skooma.
AD only makes you do one tutorial area, while EP and DC have to do two.

I'm sure there are lots more that I've noticed, but I try my best to ignore them.

Skordo the Knife

Egonieser · September 2015

paleobonesb14_ESO wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

AD has way more target dummies at their siege range.
AD has better looking home base locations in Cyrodiil.
AD has more aylid wells in Cyrodiil.
AD has the only ocean water fishing hole in Cyrodiil.
AD has more places where you can instantly log out.
AD has the only popular city that isn't a capital, Rawl Kha.
AD has Kate Beckinsale.
AD has Razum Dar, can you name a secondary character in DC or EP storylines? I can't.
AD has skooma.
AD only makes you do one tutorial area, while EP and DC have to do two.

I'm sure there are lots more that I've noticed, but I try my best to ignore them.

Skordo the Knife

DC have Bumnog, don't forget the Bumnog!

Saturn · September 2015

In my opinion it is a tie between DC and EP, with AD being at the bottom, I mean holy *** *** the Aldmeri questline is soooo boring compared to Daggerfall's or Ebonheart's. They both have unpredictable plotlines and interesting quests that remind me of Oblivion or Skyrim, whereas AD has predictable and tedious quests in zones that are completed walled off by invisible mountains (Grahtwood, Greenshade and Malabal Tor). Auridon is a good zone, then it just goes downhill after that. The only redeeming factor for AD is Razum Dar, but if you choose to save him in the end he *** hates you, lol. Maybe that's why a lot of the AD I meet are so bitter

cuss they have to endure it a lot more than the other two alliances.

Saturn · September 2015

badmojo wrote: »

AD has way more target dummies at their siege range.
AD has better looking home base locations in Cyrodiil.
AD has more aylid wells in Cyrodiil.
AD has the only ocean water fishing hole in Cyrodiil.
AD has more places where you can instantly log out.
AD has the only popular city that isn't a capital, Rawl Kha.
AD has Kate Beckinsale.
AD has Razum Dar, can you name a secondary character in DC or EP storylines? I can't.
AD has skooma.
AD only makes you do one tutorial area, while EP and DC have to do two.

I'm sure there are lots more that I've noticed, but I try my best to ignore them.

DC have Darien Gautier. You'll be forever mourned! *cries pathetically*

Ra'Shtar · September 2015

DC staves that you get from vaults are far more detailed and and appealing than some gold flat not detailed wings.

Mojmir · September 2015

coldharbour is best, you don't get punished for looting containers.

Jakhajay · September 2015

Elder_III wrote: »

Jakhajay wrote: »

I just look at the upcoming DLC. No AD love there...

Orsinium? That will be an area for all 3 Alliances to go to...

Which, territory-wise, is nestled within the DC.... sure, we AD players can go there, but it's still a DC zone! As is Craglorn!

and the others we've seen hints at: Abah's Landing (DC), Mirkmire (EP), Clockwork City (EP) and Mephala's Realm (OB)

Where is the AD on that list?

Moonshadow66 · September 2015

Since I don't have the IC DLC yet, I only can talk about the normal PvE land:
AD has the most lootable containers across their zones, especially the urns are everywhere. The chances to find some valuable items are a lot higher than in the other factions' zones.
BUT, I'm an EP player (7/8), this means that I have an even better chance to find the better purple motifs (Ancient Elf, Daedric) in there, this evens it out