@Enodoc will agree.

Hmm well that's a good catch. Is Cyrodil correct ?

wow. I'm actually surprised this wasn't addressed... and actually surprised it happened in the first place. Seems to be a matter of failing to pay attention to detail.

Look at a map of modern day London, and compare it to a map of London from nearly 1000 years ago.

Any similarities? Nope, let's move on.

Epona222 wrote: »

Look at a map of modern day London, and compare it to a map of London from nearly 1000 years ago.

There's actually a really cool website that shows kind of a time-lapse map of London over the centuries... I wish I could remember what the website was.

Feedback was ignored during PTS testing. The gate to the Imperial Prison is found directly north of the city too, despite the prison still being located to the northeast.

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

The imperial city is a holy and cherished city that is seen as being an anchor of reality would be cared for meticulously. If destroyed, they would build it PRECISELY as it was before.

Saaay, maybe that's what it is. Maybe Molag Bal somehow managed to do some crazy ritual shenanigans to rotate Imperial City slightly specifically because it's an anchor of reality and altering it in such a way would weaken the barriers between Mundus and Oblivion, thus helping to enable the Planemeld...

lol... so IC is technically in a pseudo mundus/oblivion pocket reality? or maybe it's turned because it's literally being un-screwed? Or twisted like a key to "unlock" Nirn from Mundus. I actually really like this explanation, as silly as it is. It's just crazy enough but plausible enough to sit with me well.

Imperial City has been unset because of the effects of the Planemeld. Simply. Effective. Nice.

Still... if this WASN'T intentional, it's kind of sloppy. I remember seeing this brought up months ago from a data-mine (couldn't find it. )

If it IS intentional, I'm thinking it's more along the lines that THIS imperial city isn't the same Imperial City that we visited in Oblivion... different reality/timeline. As much as I dislike this ESO theory it does help with explaining... a lot. This IC is one small rotation off from the IC that we know and so is the rest of Mundus. The more rotation of IC the more "unlike" Elder Scrolls things get.

or this is proof that ESO takes place during a dragonbreak and not during the classic Elder scrolls timeline, its a butterfly effect, in this timeline the IC is tilted slightly.

Gidorick wrote: »

wow. I'm actually surprised this wasn't addressed... and actually surprised it happened in the first place. Seems to be a matter of failing to pay attention to detail.

We have been telling them about this since February...

The city was pretty much destroyed and rebuilt. No need for an explanation.

Considering the arcane university, waterfront, and things outside is correct, then I could not care less if some of the city is a little bit out of place inside, since that really wont matter, just say the map was done incorrectly by the current mapmaker "flavius mapius"?

Or the IC got rebuilt after the daedra invasion and they moved the walls a bit after.

Gidorick wrote: »

The imperial city is a holy and cherished city that is seen as being an anchor of reality would be cared for meticulously. If destroyed, they would build it PRECISELY as it was before.

The White Gold Tower is the anchor. The city around it is just a city.

Wing wrote: »

or this is proof that ESO takes place during a dragonbreak and not during the classic Elder scrolls timeline, its a butterfly effect, in this timeline the IC is tilted slightly.

Or we can go with the actual answer which is that the devs just made an error.

MissBizz wrote: »

@Enodoc will agree.

I certainly will. I mentioned it at least five times before launch, the first of which, as lordrichter said, was in February, when the map was first datamined.
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dsalter wrote: »

i believe most of the IC got ruined during this era and had to be rebuilt. hence the change.

Epona222 wrote: »

Look at a map of modern day London, and compare it to a map of London from nearly 1000 years ago.
Any similarities? Nope, let's move on.

Rodvic wrote: »

The city was sieged and obviously the damaged parts of the city were rebuilt. Of course it looks different in Oblivion.

jcodbf2b14_ESO wrote: »

The city was pretty much destroyed and rebuilt. No need for an explanation.

@dsalter @Epona222 @Rodvic @jcodbf2b14_ESO That excuse holds no weight. They wouldn't knock down the whole thing and rebuild it almost exactly the same just 30 degrees rotated. The main wall structure has been the same since the Ayleids built it; sure some of the inner parts of the districts will have changed (most notably Memorial/Market District, and Nobles/Talos Plaza District), but the outer walls, inner walls, "spoke"-walls and watchtowers were built at the same time as White-Gold, and the Temple, Arboretum and Arena aren't going to be relocated.

UrQuan wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

The imperial city is a holy and cherished city that is seen as being an anchor of reality would be cared for meticulously. If destroyed, they would build it PRECISELY as it was before.

Saaay, maybe that's what it is. Maybe Molag Bal somehow managed to do some crazy ritual shenanigans to rotate Imperial City slightly specifically because it's an anchor of reality and altering it in such a way would weaken the barriers between Mundus and Oblivion, thus helping to enable the Planemeld...

This is the same sort of idea I came up with in February - as a joke. It show how much fans care about these details when we try to come up with our own retcons for the dev's mistakes.

Enodoc wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Anybody else notice a bit of a problem here?
Somebody got their rotation angle wrong...
The ESO map needs to be rotated 30 degrees clockwise.

It is a wheel. It obviously turns.

Ah I see, that makes sense.
What we didn't realise was that the Soulburst, in setting Mundus adrift in Oblivion, disrupted the structure of the Aurbis, and the Wheel was set off-kilter by 30 degrees. Imperial City, as an Echo of the Wheel, reflected the Aurbic shift, and was also knocked 30 degrees out of alignment.

Seriously though, someone ought to fix that

UrQuan wrote: »

Well, in the old Batman series with Adam West, you could always tell when you were in a villain's lair because the angle of the camera was tilted. In ESO you can tell that the Imperial City has been taken over by villains (daedra) because the angle of the map has been tilted.

Also, I don't know.

You're a wealth of information aren't you lol

Thanks @Enodoc and @lordrichter. I just can't believe ZOS didn't bother to fix it in the 6 months of development time they have had since it was first mentioned.

A slight graphical tweak to the map a slight turn of the compass and done. Heck, I'm sure @Enodoc wouldn't mind them pilfering the image from his thread. Half the work's done!

But seriously. At this point my concern is more about how this was overlooked in the first place and why it didn't get fixed after it was pointed out. How can characters eating food off of plates with spoons get fixed while this remains amiss?

Silly thing to be concerned about, sure. But I agree that the real concern is more about the reasons behind why IC is crooked and not so much that it's crooked.