Zanefold wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

For anyone saying that text chat isn't needed, please read this article about how less than 10% of teenage girls use voice chat (for varying reasons). As noted by several others posters there are several reasons to have an alternative to voice chat in any game that requires communication including sexism, rudeness, and outright vulgarity (not to mention a lack of moderation).

I know that ZoS is not ready to comment on this issue yet but their decision to not give console text chat really is one of the biggest blunders of the console version (the lack of integrated mod support being the other). Their defense of not being able to use a keyboard while on a couch is so bad it's laughable. Anyway, I can't wait for ZoS to finally respond to this issue but when studies demonstrate what we have been claiming about segments of gamers not using voice chat, it is not the end-all solution that so many claim it is and alternative forms of communication need to be made available to include as many of these segments as possible.

That article...and the reality of how younger people are choosing to communicate isn't a good thing.
You'll also see where younger adults are having lots of issues, meeting new people, interviewing for jobs and communicating with older adults. Bullying is an issue for young adults and the kids those teachers and adults are raising...people who shy away from talking to people or who lack interaction with people verbally with long-term have additional development opportunities down the road or choose to avoid interactions where they have to share themselves vs a icon, pixel or any other misrepresentation of the real person. Look at social media...

I see where you're coming from and that perspective is a reality that's proven to be a negative result of today's non vocal communication. Its called social awkwardness which is somewhat of a direct impact from not developing good verbal communication skills prior to becoming an adult..

to add to this, parts of the male vs female job market in certain industries or communities where there are a lot of programs to make sure women get jobs because there are proven facts that women seem to be unable to get jobs compared to men with equal pay.

Lets use sales as an example...verbal communication is essential whereas, written communication comes secondary or if at all, is after a verbal interaction.

Companies have toyed with a text support help desk for years but overall the best way as far as time and to eliminate frustration per survey results is over the phone or in person.

Lastly...that article while it portrays a topic that seemingly relates to voice chat, doesn't signify or relate at all to what the reality is here.

The reality here is not due to women, men, girls, boys, but as a result of what this company felt was best for the type of game and experience they hope too offer one of their markets of customers.

its just that simple...arguments of why it needs to be added with opinions hold no merit when the decision comes from the developer who feels that when faced with any oppressing or limiting factors of communication the decided upon the best ease of use for this platform. The end result is voice chat ...

Dude, I think your throwing way to much research information while throwing a sociological stand point in the mix... We want text chat, that is all! We won't turn into hermits or forget how to talk to people in person. Its a video game that compliments text chat, and in fact mmo's for many many years complemented the use of text chat, look at its pc counter part! Works just fine.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Zanefold wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

For anyone saying that text chat isn't needed, please read this article about how less than 10% of teenage girls use voice chat (for varying reasons). As noted by several others posters there are several reasons to have an alternative to voice chat in any game that requires communication including sexism, rudeness, and outright vulgarity (not to mention a lack of moderation).

I know that ZoS is not ready to comment on this issue yet but their decision to not give console text chat really is one of the biggest blunders of the console version (the lack of integrated mod support being the other). Their defense of not being able to use a keyboard while on a couch is so bad it's laughable. Anyway, I can't wait for ZoS to finally respond to this issue but when studies demonstrate what we have been claiming about segments of gamers not using voice chat, it is not the end-all solution that so many claim it is and alternative forms of communication need to be made available to include as many of these segments as possible.

That article...and the reality of how younger people are choosing to communicate isn't a good thing.
You'll also see where younger adults are having lots of issues, meeting new people, interviewing for jobs and communicating with older adults. Bullying is an issue for young adults and the kids those teachers and adults are raising...people who shy away from talking to people or who lack interaction with people verbally with long-term have additional development opportunities down the road or choose to avoid interactions where they have to share themselves vs a icon, pixel or any other misrepresentation of the real person. Look at social media...

I see where you're coming from and that perspective is a reality that's proven to be a negative result of today's non vocal communication. Its called social awkwardness which is somewhat of a direct impact from not developing good verbal communication skills prior to becoming an adult..

to add to this, parts of the male vs female job market in certain industries or communities where there are a lot of programs to make sure women get jobs because there are proven facts that women seem to be unable to get jobs compared to men with equal pay.

Lets use sales as an example...verbal communication is essential whereas, written communication comes secondary or if at all, is after a verbal interaction.

Companies have toyed with a text support help desk for years but overall the best way as far as time and to eliminate frustration per survey results is over the phone or in person.

Lastly...that article while it portrays a topic that seemingly relates to voice chat, doesn't signify or relate at all to what the reality is here.

The reality here is not due to women, men, girls, boys, but as a result of what this company felt was best for the type of game and experience they hope too offer one of their markets of customers.

its just that simple...arguments of why it needs to be added with opinions hold no merit when the decision comes from the developer who feels that when faced with any oppressing or limiting factors of communication the decided upon the best ease of use for this platform. The end result is voice chat ...

Dude, I think your throwing way to much research information while throwing a sociological stand point in the mix... We want text chat, that is all! We won't turn into hermits or forget how to talk to people in person. Its a video game that compliments text chat, and in fact mmo's for many many years complemented the use of text chat, look at its pc counter part! Works just fine.

Thats the the thing man, even if people turn into hemits who cares. People turn into hermits all the time for multiple reasons and trying tonuse that as an excuse to not have text chat is pathetic and detracts fr thentopic at hand.

Eso needs a way to communicate zone wide and with multiple guilds at once. It needs a text chat. Its simple as that. People are having difficulty grouping up AND voice chat is very too limited and restricted to do b that. Text chat fills the gaps that voice chat cant fill.

Both are needed for a mmo.

Respectfully and I mean this as nice as possible...with each of you comments you are literally describing to many a typical PC experience of a traditional MMO game. That's never been what this game hoped to offer on console at its core.

People tend to get really upset when I question why they decided to play on console vs PC but the question in this circumstance is again fitting to your dilemma. I've seen a lot of your concerns in other threads as well so have you considered playing this on PC vs. console?

Being an owner of both versions and actively playing PTS on PC while playing on console I don't follow why you'd not move to a form fitting gaming experience as your desires to me seem very niche and require quite a bit of customization.

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Zanefold wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

For anyone saying that text chat isn't needed, please read this article about how less than 10% of teenage girls use voice chat (for varying reasons). As noted by several others posters there are several reasons to have an alternative to voice chat in any game that requires communication including sexism, rudeness, and outright vulgarity (not to mention a lack of moderation).

I know that ZoS is not ready to comment on this issue yet but their decision to not give console text chat really is one of the biggest blunders of the console version (the lack of integrated mod support being the other). Their defense of not being able to use a keyboard while on a couch is so bad it's laughable. Anyway, I can't wait for ZoS to finally respond to this issue but when studies demonstrate what we have been claiming about segments of gamers not using voice chat, it is not the end-all solution that so many claim it is and alternative forms of communication need to be made available to include as many of these segments as possible.

That article...and the reality of how younger people are choosing to communicate isn't a good thing.
You'll also see where younger adults are having lots of issues, meeting new people, interviewing for jobs and communicating with older adults. Bullying is an issue for young adults and the kids those teachers and adults are raising...people who shy away from talking to people or who lack interaction with people verbally with long-term have additional development opportunities down the road or choose to avoid interactions where they have to share themselves vs a icon, pixel or any other misrepresentation of the real person. Look at social media...

I see where you're coming from and that perspective is a reality that's proven to be a negative result of today's non vocal communication. Its called social awkwardness which is somewhat of a direct impact from not developing good verbal communication skills prior to becoming an adult..

to add to this, parts of the male vs female job market in certain industries or communities where there are a lot of programs to make sure women get jobs because there are proven facts that women seem to be unable to get jobs compared to men with equal pay.

Lets use sales as an example...verbal communication is essential whereas, written communication comes secondary or if at all, is after a verbal interaction.

Companies have toyed with a text support help desk for years but overall the best way as far as time and to eliminate frustration per survey results is over the phone or in person.

Lastly...that article while it portrays a topic that seemingly relates to voice chat, doesn't signify or relate at all to what the reality is here.

The reality here is not due to women, men, girls, boys, but as a result of what this company felt was best for the type of game and experience they hope too offer one of their markets of customers.

its just that simple...arguments of why it needs to be added with opinions hold no merit when the decision comes from the developer who feels that when faced with any oppressing or limiting factors of communication the decided upon the best ease of use for this platform. The end result is voice chat ...

Dude, I think your throwing way to much research information while throwing a sociological stand point in the mix... We want text chat, that is all! We won't turn into hermits or forget how to talk to people in person. Its a video game that compliments text chat, and in fact mmo's for many many years complemented the use of text chat, look at its pc counter part! Works just fine.

Thats the the thing man, even if people turn into hemits who cares. People turn into hermits all the time for multiple reasons and trying tonuse that as an excuse to not have text chat is pathetic and detracts fr thentopic at hand.

Eso needs a way to communicate zone wide and with multiple guilds at once. It needs a text chat. Its simple as that. People are having difficulty grouping up AND voice chat is very too limited and restricted to do b that. Text chat fills the gaps that voice chat cant fill.

Both are needed for a mmo.

Respectfully and I mean this as nice as possible...with each of you comments you are literally describing to many a typical PC experience of a traditional MMO game. That's never been what this game hoped to offer on console at its core.

People tend to get really upset when I question why they decided to play on console vs PC but the question in this circumstance is again fitting to your dilemma. I've seen a lot of your concerns in other threads as well so have you considered playing this on PC vs. console?

Being an owner of both versions and actively playing PTS on PC while playing on console I don't follow why you'd not move to a form fitting gaming experience as your desires to me seem very niche and require quite a bit of customization.

And that excuse is not fitting. "They never marketed it as a traditionall mmo" that is an excuse that does not make up for the severe lack n of communication in this game. Text chat is not solely a mmo thing, many other games andngenres utilize t e xt chat succesfully. FPS, MOBAS, Dungeon Crawlers, all use text chat.

And people get upset with you when you ask them why they chose one platform over the other because it is truly not your buisness and it holds no weight in this dicussion. Some people cant afford pcs, or all their friends play on console so they play on console, there are endless reasons which hold no weight in this discussion, because the topic is about adding text chat to eso so we can communicate with b eachother more effectively. Its not about why you chose one n platform.over the other.

So now I ask you to n please stay on topic.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Zanefold wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

For anyone saying that text chat isn't needed, please read this article about how less than 10% of teenage girls use voice chat (for varying reasons). As noted by several others posters there are several reasons to have an alternative to voice chat in any game that requires communication including sexism, rudeness, and outright vulgarity (not to mention a lack of moderation).

I know that ZoS is not ready to comment on this issue yet but their decision to not give console text chat really is one of the biggest blunders of the console version (the lack of integrated mod support being the other). Their defense of not being able to use a keyboard while on a couch is so bad it's laughable. Anyway, I can't wait for ZoS to finally respond to this issue but when studies demonstrate what we have been claiming about segments of gamers not using voice chat, it is not the end-all solution that so many claim it is and alternative forms of communication need to be made available to include as many of these segments as possible.

That article...and the reality of how younger people are choosing to communicate isn't a good thing.
You'll also see where younger adults are having lots of issues, meeting new people, interviewing for jobs and communicating with older adults. Bullying is an issue for young adults and the kids those teachers and adults are raising...people who shy away from talking to people or who lack interaction with people verbally with long-term have additional development opportunities down the road or choose to avoid interactions where they have to share themselves vs a icon, pixel or any other misrepresentation of the real person. Look at social media...

I see where you're coming from and that perspective is a reality that's proven to be a negative result of today's non vocal communication. Its called social awkwardness which is somewhat of a direct impact from not developing good verbal communication skills prior to becoming an adult..

to add to this, parts of the male vs female job market in certain industries or communities where there are a lot of programs to make sure women get jobs because there are proven facts that women seem to be unable to get jobs compared to men with equal pay.

Lets use sales as an example...verbal communication is essential whereas, written communication comes secondary or if at all, is after a verbal interaction.

Companies have toyed with a text support help desk for years but overall the best way as far as time and to eliminate frustration per survey results is over the phone or in person.

Lastly...that article while it portrays a topic that seemingly relates to voice chat, doesn't signify or relate at all to what the reality is here.

The reality here is not due to women, men, girls, boys, but as a result of what this company felt was best for the type of game and experience they hope too offer one of their markets of customers.

its just that simple...arguments of why it needs to be added with opinions hold no merit when the decision comes from the developer who feels that when faced with any oppressing or limiting factors of communication the decided upon the best ease of use for this platform. The end result is voice chat ...

Dude, I think your throwing way to much research information while throwing a sociological stand point in the mix... We want text chat, that is all! We won't turn into hermits or forget how to talk to people in person. Its a video game that compliments text chat, and in fact mmo's for many many years complemented the use of text chat, look at its pc counter part! Works just fine.

Thats the the thing man, even if people turn into hemits who cares. People turn into hermits all the time for multiple reasons and trying tonuse that as an excuse to not have text chat is pathetic and detracts fr thentopic at hand.

Eso needs a way to communicate zone wide and with multiple guilds at once. It needs a text chat. Its simple as that. People are having difficulty grouping up AND voice chat is very too limited and restricted to do b that. Text chat fills the gaps that voice chat cant fill.

Both are needed for a mmo.

Respectfully and I mean this as nice as possible...with each of you comments you are literally describing to many a typical PC experience of a traditional MMO game. That's never been what this game hoped to offer on console at its core.

People tend to get really upset when I question why they decided to play on console vs PC but the question in this circumstance is again fitting to your dilemma. I've seen a lot of your concerns in other threads as well so have you considered playing this on PC vs. console?

Being an owner of both versions and actively playing PTS on PC while playing on console I don't follow why you'd not move to a form fitting gaming experience as your desires to me seem very niche and require quite a bit of customization.
The types of customization that will not be offered on console ever...and some that in some way shape or form may come but not in ways you describe that you desire.

dday3six wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Zanefold wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

For anyone saying that text chat isn't needed, please read this article about how less than 10% of teenage girls use voice chat (for varying reasons). As noted by several others posters there are several reasons to have an alternative to voice chat in any game that requires communication including sexism, rudeness, and outright vulgarity (not to mention a lack of moderation).

I know that ZoS is not ready to comment on this issue yet but their decision to not give console text chat really is one of the biggest blunders of the console version (the lack of integrated mod support being the other). Their defense of not being able to use a keyboard while on a couch is so bad it's laughable. Anyway, I can't wait for ZoS to finally respond to this issue but when studies demonstrate what we have been claiming about segments of gamers not using voice chat, it is not the end-all solution that so many claim it is and alternative forms of communication need to be made available to include as many of these segments as possible.

That article...and the reality of how younger people are choosing to communicate isn't a good thing.
You'll also see where younger adults are having lots of issues, meeting new people, interviewing for jobs and communicating with older adults. Bullying is an issue for young adults and the kids those teachers and adults are raising...people who shy away from talking to people or who lack interaction with people verbally with long-term have additional development opportunities down the road or choose to avoid interactions where they have to share themselves vs a icon, pixel or any other misrepresentation of the real person. Look at social media...

I see where you're coming from and that perspective is a reality that's proven to be a negative result of today's non vocal communication. Its called social awkwardness which is somewhat of a direct impact from not developing good verbal communication skills prior to becoming an adult..

to add to this, parts of the male vs female job market in certain industries or communities where there are a lot of programs to make sure women get jobs because there are proven facts that women seem to be unable to get jobs compared to men with equal pay.

Lets use sales as an example...verbal communication is essential whereas, written communication comes secondary or if at all, is after a verbal interaction.

Companies have toyed with a text support help desk for years but overall the best way as far as time and to eliminate frustration per survey results is over the phone or in person.

Lastly...that article while it portrays a topic that seemingly relates to voice chat, doesn't signify or relate at all to what the reality is here.

The reality here is not due to women, men, girls, boys, but as a result of what this company felt was best for the type of game and experience they hope too offer one of their markets of customers.

its just that simple...arguments of why it needs to be added with opinions hold no merit when the decision comes from the developer who feels that when faced with any oppressing or limiting factors of communication the decided upon the best ease of use for this platform. The end result is voice chat ...

Dude, I think your throwing way to much research information while throwing a sociological stand point in the mix... We want text chat, that is all! We won't turn into hermits or forget how to talk to people in person. Its a video game that compliments text chat, and in fact mmo's for many many years complemented the use of text chat, look at its pc counter part! Works just fine.

Thats the the thing man, even if people turn into hemits who cares. People turn into hermits all the time for multiple reasons and trying tonuse that as an excuse to not have text chat is pathetic and detracts fr thentopic at hand.

Eso needs a way to communicate zone wide and with multiple guilds at once. It needs a text chat. Its simple as that. People are having difficulty grouping up AND voice chat is very too limited and restricted to do b that. Text chat fills the gaps that voice chat cant fill.

Both are needed for a mmo.

Respectfully and I mean this as nice as possible...with each of you comments you are literally describing to many a typical PC experience of a traditional MMO game. That's never been what this game hoped to offer on console at its core.

People tend to get really upset when I question why they decided to play on console vs PC but the question in this circumstance is again fitting to your dilemma. I've seen a lot of your concerns in other threads as well so have you considered playing this on PC vs. console?

Being an owner of both versions and actively playing PTS on PC while playing on console I don't follow why you'd not move to a form fitting gaming experience as your desires to me seem very niche and require quite a bit of customization.
The types of customization that will not be offered on console ever...and some that in some way shape or form may come but not in ways you describe that you desire.

What is the intended core offering of ESO on console?

The main differences are on PC players use KB+M (some use a controller though), Addons are supported, and PC has in game text chat. Other than that the game is virtually identical on console and PC.

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Zanefold wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

For anyone saying that text chat isn't needed, please read this article about how less than 10% of teenage girls use voice chat (for varying reasons). As noted by several others posters there are several reasons to have an alternative to voice chat in any game that requires communication including sexism, rudeness, and outright vulgarity (not to mention a lack of moderation).

I know that ZoS is not ready to comment on this issue yet but their decision to not give console text chat really is one of the biggest blunders of the console version (the lack of integrated mod support being the other). Their defense of not being able to use a keyboard while on a couch is so bad it's laughable. Anyway, I can't wait for ZoS to finally respond to this issue but when studies demonstrate what we have been claiming about segments of gamers not using voice chat, it is not the end-all solution that so many claim it is and alternative forms of communication need to be made available to include as many of these segments as possible.

That article...and the reality of how younger people are choosing to communicate isn't a good thing.
You'll also see where younger adults are having lots of issues, meeting new people, interviewing for jobs and communicating with older adults. Bullying is an issue for young adults and the kids those teachers and adults are raising...people who shy away from talking to people or who lack interaction with people verbally with long-term have additional development opportunities down the road or choose to avoid interactions where they have to share themselves vs a icon, pixel or any other misrepresentation of the real person. Look at social media...

I see where you're coming from and that perspective is a reality that's proven to be a negative result of today's non vocal communication. Its called social awkwardness which is somewhat of a direct impact from not developing good verbal communication skills prior to becoming an adult..

to add to this, parts of the male vs female job market in certain industries or communities where there are a lot of programs to make sure women get jobs because there are proven facts that women seem to be unable to get jobs compared to men with equal pay.

Lets use sales as an example...verbal communication is essential whereas, written communication comes secondary or if at all, is after a verbal interaction.

Companies have toyed with a text support help desk for years but overall the best way as far as time and to eliminate frustration per survey results is over the phone or in person.

Lastly...that article while it portrays a topic that seemingly relates to voice chat, doesn't signify or relate at all to what the reality is here.

The reality here is not due to women, men, girls, boys, but as a result of what this company felt was best for the type of game and experience they hope too offer one of their markets of customers.

its just that simple...arguments of why it needs to be added with opinions hold no merit when the decision comes from the developer who feels that when faced with any oppressing or limiting factors of communication the decided upon the best ease of use for this platform. The end result is voice chat ...

Dude, I think your throwing way to much research information while throwing a sociological stand point in the mix... We want text chat, that is all! We won't turn into hermits or forget how to talk to people in person. Its a video game that compliments text chat, and in fact mmo's for many many years complemented the use of text chat, look at its pc counter part! Works just fine.

Thats the the thing man, even if people turn into hemits who cares. People turn into hermits all the time for multiple reasons and trying tonuse that as an excuse to not have text chat is pathetic and detracts fr thentopic at hand.

Eso needs a way to communicate zone wide and with multiple guilds at once. It needs a text chat. Its simple as that. People are having difficulty grouping up AND voice chat is very too limited and restricted to do b that. Text chat fills the gaps that voice chat cant fill.

Both are needed for a mmo.

Respectfully and I mean this as nice as possible...with each of you comments you are literally describing to many a typical PC experience of a traditional MMO game. That's never been what this game hoped to offer on console at its core.

People tend to get really upset when I question why they decided to play on console vs PC but the question in this circumstance is again fitting to your dilemma. I've seen a lot of your concerns in other threads as well so have you considered playing this on PC vs. console?

Being an owner of both versions and actively playing PTS on PC while playing on console I don't follow why you'd not move to a form fitting gaming experience as your desires to me seem very niche and require quite a bit of customization.

And that excuse is not fitting. "They never marketed it as a traditionall mmo" that is an excuse that does not make up for the severe lack n of communication in this game. Text chat is not solely a mmo thing, many other games andngenres utilize t e xt chat succesfully. FPS, MOBAS, Dungeon Crawlers, all use text chat.

And people get upset with you when you ask them why they chose one platform over the other because it is truly not your buisness and it holds no weight in this dicussion. Some people cant afford pcs, or all their friends play on console so they play on console, there are endless reasons which hold no weight in this discussion, because the topic is about adding text chat to eso so we can communicate with b eachother more effectively. Its not about why you chose one n platform.over the other.

So now I ask you to n please stay on topic.

Here's the thing...this is on topic.
The topic began asking for text chat to be added with IC.
as of the response from last week, we all learned that ZOS has nothing new to share.

That concludes that this will not be apart of IC.
As the discussions continues you have offered and provided lots of input on what in your opinion ZOS's development decisions aren't acceptable as well as added why in your opinion the feature is necessary for you to enjoy the game and even gave lots of comments to why you felt you and others who want the feature shouldn't compromise and that this is something that ZOS better add.

In response to all those comments, I'm asking you if you've considered a viable alternative...
Now you're responding that its not on topic.

The OP topic technically was concluded with the ZOS comment last week so what do you consider on topic?

This thread became more than just adding text in IC when zos decided to use it as the thread to consalidate all text chat feedback to here.

They close the other threads and refer them here...

So now, again I ask you to stay on topic, because trying to argue about platform choices, people becoming hermits and all these other rediculous derailments you and others are trying to steer this thread too is counter productive.

Eso on consoles lacks an effective way to communicate, and having text chat as a supplement will fill all those gaps that voice chat cant fill. So its only logical and reasonable to add this feature, especially since it proved its effectiveness many times.

Eriquito3 wrote: »

senhavran wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Zanefold wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

For anyone saying that text chat isn't needed, please read this article about how less than 10% of teenage girls use voice chat (for varying reasons). As noted by several others posters there are several reasons to have an alternative to voice chat in any game that requires communication including sexism, rudeness, and outright vulgarity (not to mention a lack of moderation).

I know that ZoS is not ready to comment on this issue yet but their decision to not give console text chat really is one of the biggest blunders of the console version (the lack of integrated mod support being the other). Their defense of not being able to use a keyboard while on a couch is so bad it's laughable. Anyway, I can't wait for ZoS to finally respond to this issue but when studies demonstrate what we have been claiming about segments of gamers not using voice chat, it is not the end-all solution that so many claim it is and alternative forms of communication need to be made available to include as many of these segments as possible.

That article...and the reality of how younger people are choosing to communicate isn't a good thing.
You'll also see where younger adults are having lots of issues, meeting new people, interviewing for jobs and communicating with older adults. Bullying is an issue for young adults and the kids those teachers and adults are raising...people who shy away from talking to people or who lack interaction with people verbally with long-term have additional development opportunities down the road or choose to avoid interactions where they have to share themselves vs a icon, pixel or any other misrepresentation of the real person. Look at social media...

I see where you're coming from and that perspective is a reality that's proven to be a negative result of today's non vocal communication. Its called social awkwardness which is somewhat of a direct impact from not developing good verbal communication skills prior to becoming an adult..

to add to this, parts of the male vs female job market in certain industries or communities where there are a lot of programs to make sure women get jobs because there are proven facts that women seem to be unable to get jobs compared to men with equal pay.

Lets use sales as an example...verbal communication is essential whereas, written communication comes secondary or if at all, is after a verbal interaction.

Companies have toyed with a text support help desk for years but overall the best way as far as time and to eliminate frustration per survey results is over the phone or in person.

Lastly...that article while it portrays a topic that seemingly relates to voice chat, doesn't signify or relate at all to what the reality is here.

The reality here is not due to women, men, girls, boys, but as a result of what this company felt was best for the type of game and experience they hope too offer one of their markets of customers.

its just that simple...arguments of why it needs to be added with opinions hold no merit when the decision comes from the developer who feels that when faced with any oppressing or limiting factors of communication the decided upon the best ease of use for this platform. The end result is voice chat ...

Dude, I think your throwing way to much research information while throwing a sociological stand point in the mix... We want text chat, that is all! We won't turn into hermits or forget how to talk to people in person. Its a video game that compliments text chat, and in fact mmo's for many many years complemented the use of text chat, look at its pc counter part! Works just fine.

Thats the the thing man, even if people turn into hemits who cares. People turn into hermits all the time for multiple reasons and trying tonuse that as an excuse to not have text chat is pathetic and detracts fr thentopic at hand.

Eso needs a way to communicate zone wide and with multiple guilds at once. It needs a text chat. Its simple as that. People are having difficulty grouping up AND voice chat is very too limited and restricted to do b that. Text chat fills the gaps that voice chat cant fill.

Both are needed for a mmo.

Respectfully and I mean this as nice as possible...with each of you comments you are literally describing to many a typical PC experience of a traditional MMO game. That's never been what this game hoped to offer on console at its core.

People tend to get really upset when I question why they decided to play on console vs PC but the question in this circumstance is again fitting to your dilemma. I've seen a lot of your concerns in other threads as well so have you considered playing this on PC vs. console?

Being an owner of both versions and actively playing PTS on PC while playing on console I don't follow why you'd not move to a form fitting gaming experience as your desires to me seem very niche and require quite a bit of customization.

And that excuse is not fitting. "They never marketed it as a traditionall mmo" that is an excuse that does not make up for the severe lack n of communication in this game. Text chat is not solely a mmo thing, many other games andngenres utilize t e xt chat succesfully. FPS, MOBAS, Dungeon Crawlers, all use text chat.

And people get upset with you when you ask them why they chose one platform over the other because it is truly not your buisness and it holds no weight in this dicussion. Some people cant afford pcs, or all their friends play on console so they play on console, there are endless reasons which hold no weight in this discussion, because the topic is about adding text chat to eso so we can communicate with b eachother more effectively. Its not about why you chose one n platform.over the other.

So now I ask you to n please stay on topic.

Here's the thing...this is on topic.
The topic began asking for text chat to be added with IC.
as of the response from last week, we all learned that ZOS has nothing new to share.

That concludes that this will not be apart of IC.
As the discussions continues you have offered and provided lots of input on what in your opinion ZOS's development decisions aren't acceptable as well as added why in your opinion the feature is necessary for you to enjoy the game and even gave lots of comments to why you felt you and others who want the feature shouldn't compromise and that this is something that ZOS better add.

In response to all those comments, I'm asking you if you've considered a viable alternative...
Now you're responding that its not on topic.

The OP topic technically was concluded with the ZOS comment last week so what do you consider on topic?

This thread became more than just adding text in IC when zos decided to use it as the thread to consalidate all text chat feedback to here.

They close the other threads and refer them here...

So now, again I ask you to stay on topic, because trying to argue about platform choices, people becoming hermits and all these other rediculous derailments you and others are trying to steer this thread too is counter productive.

Eso on consoles lacks an effective way to communicate, and having text chat as a supplement will fill all those gaps that voice chat cant fill. So its only logical and reasonable to add this feature, especially since it proved its effectiveness many times.

I don't think that what's @NewBlacksmurf is saying is that off the topic, it's his point of view, just like we share ours on the matter. I clearly disagree with some things the anti-texters said but as I won't change my mind about text chat, I won't waste my time trying to change theirs. There is not one way to think but as many as human beings.

Again, this is about giving feedback, not deciding who's point of view is better than another in my opinion. If they think voice chat is enough to play ESO on consoles, let it go. ^^ We do not all have the same play style, that's why we need options on MMOs, to suit the different play styles of a lot more players than just a few, make them at home and happy so they spend money on that MMO for a long time.

I dont mind if people are against text chat, but when they try to do psedo psychoanalysis on a group of people they havent met, constant attempts to defame the poll, make up stories about how text chat makes games lag in support of their opinion, thats when its off topic and not needed.

Because all those things even if true are not relevant to the discussion. Tell me how someone "possibly becoming a hermet" has anything to do with opening up communication between guilds and zones?

Im asking people to be honest, and not make up silly excuses to derail the thread.

senhavran wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

senhavran wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Zanefold wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

For anyone saying that text chat isn't needed, please read this article about how less than 10% of teenage girls use voice chat (for varying reasons). As noted by several others posters there are several reasons to have an alternative to voice chat in any game that requires communication including sexism, rudeness, and outright vulgarity (not to mention a lack of moderation).

I know that ZoS is not ready to comment on this issue yet but their decision to not give console text chat really is one of the biggest blunders of the console version (the lack of integrated mod support being the other). Their defense of not being able to use a keyboard while on a couch is so bad it's laughable. Anyway, I can't wait for ZoS to finally respond to this issue but when studies demonstrate what we have been claiming about segments of gamers not using voice chat, it is not the end-all solution that so many claim it is and alternative forms of communication need to be made available to include as many of these segments as possible.

That article...and the reality of how younger people are choosing to communicate isn't a good thing.
You'll also see where younger adults are having lots of issues, meeting new people, interviewing for jobs and communicating with older adults. Bullying is an issue for young adults and the kids those teachers and adults are raising...people who shy away from talking to people or who lack interaction with people verbally with long-term have additional development opportunities down the road or choose to avoid interactions where they have to share themselves vs a icon, pixel or any other misrepresentation of the real person. Look at social media...

I see where you're coming from and that perspective is a reality that's proven to be a negative result of today's non vocal communication. Its called social awkwardness which is somewhat of a direct impact from not developing good verbal communication skills prior to becoming an adult..

to add to this, parts of the male vs female job market in certain industries or communities where there are a lot of programs to make sure women get jobs because there are proven facts that women seem to be unable to get jobs compared to men with equal pay.

Lets use sales as an example...verbal communication is essential whereas, written communication comes secondary or if at all, is after a verbal interaction.

Companies have toyed with a text support help desk for years but overall the best way as far as time and to eliminate frustration per survey results is over the phone or in person.

Lastly...that article while it portrays a topic that seemingly relates to voice chat, doesn't signify or relate at all to what the reality is here.

The reality here is not due to women, men, girls, boys, but as a result of what this company felt was best for the type of game and experience they hope too offer one of their markets of customers.

its just that simple...arguments of why it needs to be added with opinions hold no merit when the decision comes from the developer who feels that when faced with any oppressing or limiting factors of communication the decided upon the best ease of use for this platform. The end result is voice chat ...

Dude, I think your throwing way to much research information while throwing a sociological stand point in the mix... We want text chat, that is all! We won't turn into hermits or forget how to talk to people in person. Its a video game that compliments text chat, and in fact mmo's for many many years complemented the use of text chat, look at its pc counter part! Works just fine.

Thats the the thing man, even if people turn into hemits who cares. People turn into hermits all the time for multiple reasons and trying tonuse that as an excuse to not have text chat is pathetic and detracts fr thentopic at hand.

Eso needs a way to communicate zone wide and with multiple guilds at once. It needs a text chat. Its simple as that. People are having difficulty grouping up AND voice chat is very too limited and restricted to do b that. Text chat fills the gaps that voice chat cant fill.

Both are needed for a mmo.

Respectfully and I mean this as nice as possible...with each of you comments you are literally describing to many a typical PC experience of a traditional MMO game. That's never been what this game hoped to offer on console at its core.

People tend to get really upset when I question why they decided to play on console vs PC but the question in this circumstance is again fitting to your dilemma. I've seen a lot of your concerns in other threads as well so have you considered playing this on PC vs. console?

Being an owner of both versions and actively playing PTS on PC while playing on console I don't follow why you'd not move to a form fitting gaming experience as your desires to me seem very niche and require quite a bit of customization.

And that excuse is not fitting. "They never marketed it as a traditionall mmo" that is an excuse that does not make up for the severe lack n of communication in this game. Text chat is not solely a mmo thing, many other games andngenres utilize t e xt chat succesfully. FPS, MOBAS, Dungeon Crawlers, all use text chat.

And people get upset with you when you ask them why they chose one platform over the other because it is truly not your buisness and it holds no weight in this dicussion. Some people cant afford pcs, or all their friends play on console so they play on console, there are endless reasons which hold no weight in this discussion, because the topic is about adding text chat to eso so we can communicate with b eachother more effectively. Its not about why you chose one n platform.over the other.

So now I ask you to n please stay on topic.

Here's the thing...this is on topic.
The topic began asking for text chat to be added with IC.
as of the response from last week, we all learned that ZOS has nothing new to share.

That concludes that this will not be apart of IC.
As the discussions continues you have offered and provided lots of input on what in your opinion ZOS's development decisions aren't acceptable as well as added why in your opinion the feature is necessary for you to enjoy the game and even gave lots of comments to why you felt you and others who want the feature shouldn't compromise and that this is something that ZOS better add.

In response to all those comments, I'm asking you if you've considered a viable alternative...
Now you're responding that its not on topic.

The OP topic technically was concluded with the ZOS comment last week so what do you consider on topic?

This thread became more than just adding text in IC when zos decided to use it as the thread to consalidate all text chat feedback to here.

They close the other threads and refer them here...

So now, again I ask you to stay on topic, because trying to argue about platform choices, people becoming hermits and all these other rediculous derailments you and others are trying to steer this thread too is counter productive.

Eso on consoles lacks an effective way to communicate, and having text chat as a supplement will fill all those gaps that voice chat cant fill. So its only logical and reasonable to add this feature, especially since it proved its effectiveness many times.

I don't think that what's @NewBlacksmurf is saying is that off the topic, it's his point of view, just like we share ours on the matter. I clearly disagree with some things the anti-texters said but as I won't change my mind about text chat, I won't waste my time trying to change theirs. There is not one way to think but as many as human beings.

Again, this is about giving feedback, not deciding who's point of view is better than another in my opinion. If they think voice chat is enough to play ESO on consoles, let it go. ^^ We do not all have the same play style, that's why we need options on MMOs, to suit the different play styles of a lot more players than just a few, make them at home and happy so they spend money on that MMO for a long time.

I dont mind if people are against text chat, but when they try to do psedo psychoanalysis on a group of people they havent met, constant attempts to defame the poll, make up stories about how text chat makes games lag in support of their opinion, thats when its off topic and not needed.

Because all those things even if true are not relevant to the discussion. Tell me how someone "possibly becoming a hermet" has anything to do with opening up communication between guilds and zones?

Im asking people to be honest, and not make up silly excuses to derail the thread.

Let them say what they want, you can't control or moderate what people will say on this thread, you know. ^^ This will make your life much easier if you just ignore what you think doesn't belong to this discussion.

dday3six wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

So using voice chat I just joined two new guild. One PvE and another PvP so I had to boot an inactive guild from the PC to console folks that's dead now.

Noticed the two new guilds are existing clan from Destiny and the other is a few small groups from other console games/clans. Rerolled a NB Tuesday who is now lvl 47 and ran a VR 4 to Vr11 last week all using what's in the game. No forums, no text chat, etc.

Sold some recipes and picked up 3 purple motifs and had others sent to me while I sent gear sets to others and made sets for noobs. One guy I just met offered to take me to his grind spots and so on and so forth.

Just sharing that there's different ways to play the game and text chat in all these scenarios never came up during discussion in 3 weeks which is about how long we've been arguing, debating, commenting and discussing this thread.

Don't miss out folks...ppl are working with what's there.
Also I updated my sig with a website for ppl who don't get good results using the grouping tools In-game.

It seems like you too have ignored just about what everyone has been saying....

So here let me break it down to you.... again...

No one was saying its impossible to join groups and trade, or join guilds. Nonone is saying that people arent doing the best they coukd with the options available.

WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT ITS NOT EFFICIENT AND SEVERLY LIMITED!!! AND THAT ADDINGNTEXT CHAT WILL MAKE ALL THOSE THINGS EASIER AND MORE EFFECTIVE!!!

I UNDERSTAND YOU. NOW UNDERSTAND ZENIMAX WHEN THEY SAY "NO".

I hope they understand no more money then too. Cause people are just gong to tell there friends oh don't buy this game the creators never listen to what the players need.

The players don't "need" it. Didn't you see the last post I was responding to...

If not, here it is again ⬇

Eriquito3 wrote: »

No one was saying its impossible to join groups and trade, or join guilds. Nonone is saying that people arent doing the best they coukd with the options available.

WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT ITS NOT EFFICIENT AND SEVERLY LIMITED!!! AND THAT ADDINGNTEXT CHAT WILL MAKE ALL THOSE THINGS EASIER AND MORE EFFECTIVE!!!

So as you can see, tis merely a minor quality of life issue for a niche crowd of text fetishists that has no place in the console version.

Its only a niche crowd if your wilfully ignore the vast support behind text chat...which you have done.

Lol "Hey lets ignore the majority and tell them they are actually the minority"

Thats why your comments are viewed as a joke.

Vast support? You mean the 500 votes on this convoluted poll. Admittedly scewed by people who don't even play the console version. Some of them even going so far as to admit in this very thread that they voted yes just to shut the pro text pups up. Or did you skip over those posts? Aaaaaaaaannnd even if the 500 votes were legit, which they are not, that is 500 out of millions of players. Looks like a minority to me & should to anyone with basic math skills.

ESO is not millions of players deep on console. Also the official forums are not the only place lack of text chat is being discussed.

As of the middle of june, sales had reportedly topped 800,000 on PS4 and 600,000 on xBox One. So, you've got me there. They may not have topped 2 mil yet. I imagine they are significantly close if they haven't.

Not exactly because companies don't release the digital sales numbers. Those figures are likely from hard copy sales.

The actual figure is likely much higher.

As far as console is concerned players by a wide margin prefer phyiscal copies over digital downloads. Also there is little way to account for units purchased via either medium vs active and retained players.

When viewing 'players' as an indivdual who currently owes the game and is regularly playing it, one cannot simply look at the sells numbers and infer there are X units sold, thus there are X players. Because the sells numbers do not account for players who have moved on to other titles.

Furthermore, a company will rarely give an accurate number of the active player base, because it is, from a business stand point, in said company's best interest to inflate the number. This is why instead of saying over (insert timeframe) we've had Y unique account logins, they say (insert game) has over Z subscribers. Also that subscriber measure is normally taken right after major content releases which will always boost numbers due to players returning to play new content.

That's fantastic & well known. I appreciate you pointing this out but unless the number of active players has whittled down to less than 10k, 500 ppl don't mean squat. Which was the original point. Not that anyone in this thread is interested in acknowledging anyone with a differing opinions point...

This thread should be retitled "The World's Worst Amateur Debate".

I was refuting the point of there being millions of players, and later even with digital sales. I never included ties-in with those statements referring to the poll vs the player base. I merely stated the offical forums are not the only place lack of text chat is being discussed.

If you want a person to acknowledge your points, a first step would perhaps be to not put words in their mouth. Moreover when I take the time to refute a numerical claim within your point, that is infact an acknowledge.

NSS... the exact number in & of itself had nothing to do with the actual point being made. That point being the giant gap between players & poll participation. Now, for the sake of the discussion, does it matter if the gap is 500,000 to one or 100,000 to one? I don't think so. Not in the context of this discussion or for the point being made.

Now, some ppl could categorize your response as fecetious. I would never say such a thing, but some might. They might also say that the information that you gave goes without saying. Or say it was redundant as well as having nothing to do with the point of the post. That's what some might say. I wouldn't. What I'll say is: Thanks for taking the time to express your concern over a general number & attempting to correct the dull generality into an explanation on why the number cannot be made exact & remains vague & cloudy. And thanks for taking the time to refute a vague numerical value with the reasons why it's vague. Thanks a pantload.

Lol...

Acknowledgement ≠ Agreement. Life is easier if accept that fact. If you want to call my statements facetious and redundant just do it. If you are going to make up numbers people are likely to rebut them. If you are so frustrated with the discourse why do you continue to engage in it?

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

mrskinskull wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Mugetsu wrote: »

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

Eriquito3 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

So using voice chat I just joined two new guild. One PvE and another PvP so I had to boot an inactive guild from the PC to console folks that's dead now.

Noticed the two new guilds are existing clan from Destiny and the other is a few small groups from other console games/clans. Rerolled a NB Tuesday who is now lvl 47 and ran a VR 4 to Vr11 last week all using what's in the game. No forums, no text chat, etc.

Sold some recipes and picked up 3 purple motifs and had others sent to me while I sent gear sets to others and made sets for noobs. One guy I just met offered to take me to his grind spots and so on and so forth.

Just sharing that there's different ways to play the game and text chat in all these scenarios never came up during discussion in 3 weeks which is about how long we've been arguing, debating, commenting and discussing this thread.

Don't miss out folks...ppl are working with what's there.
Also I updated my sig with a website for ppl who don't get good results using the grouping tools In-game.

It seems like you too have ignored just about what everyone has been saying....

So here let me break it down to you.... again...

No one was saying its impossible to join groups and trade, or join guilds. Nonone is saying that people arent doing the best they coukd with the options available.

WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT ITS NOT EFFICIENT AND SEVERLY LIMITED!!! AND THAT ADDINGNTEXT CHAT WILL MAKE ALL THOSE THINGS EASIER AND MORE EFFECTIVE!!!

I UNDERSTAND YOU. NOW UNDERSTAND ZENIMAX WHEN THEY SAY "NO".

I hope they understand no more money then too. Cause people are just gong to tell there friends oh don't buy this game the creators never listen to what the players need.

The players don't "need" it. Didn't you see the last post I was responding to...

If not, here it is again ⬇

Eriquito3 wrote: »

No one was saying its impossible to join groups and trade, or join guilds. Nonone is saying that people arent doing the best they coukd with the options available.

WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT ITS NOT EFFICIENT AND SEVERLY LIMITED!!! AND THAT ADDINGNTEXT CHAT WILL MAKE ALL THOSE THINGS EASIER AND MORE EFFECTIVE!!!

So as you can see, tis merely a minor quality of life issue for a niche crowd of text fetishists that has no place in the console version.

Its only a niche crowd if your wilfully ignore the vast support behind text chat...which you have done.

Lol "Hey lets ignore the majority and tell them they are actually the minority"

Thats why your comments are viewed as a joke.

Vast support? You mean the 500 votes on this convoluted poll. Admittedly scewed by people who don't even play the console version. Some of them even going so far as to admit in this very thread that they voted yes just to shut the pro text pups up. Or did you skip over those posts? Aaaaaaaaannnd even if the 500 votes were legit, which they are not, that is 500 out of millions of players. Looks like a minority to me & should to anyone with basic math skills.

ESO is not millions of players deep on console. Also the official forums are not the only place lack of text chat is being discussed.

As of the middle of june, sales had reportedly topped 800,000 on PS4 and 600,000 on xBox One. So, you've got me there. They may not have topped 2 mil yet. I imagine they are significantly close if they haven't.

Not exactly because companies don't release the digital sales numbers. Those figures are likely from hard copy sales.

The actual figure is likely much higher.

As far as console is concerned players by a wide margin prefer phyiscal copies over digital downloads. Also there is little way to account for units purchased via either medium vs active and retained players.

When viewing 'players' as an indivdual who currently owes the game and is regularly playing it, one cannot simply look at the sells numbers and infer there are X units sold, thus there are X players. Because the sells numbers do not account for players who have moved on to other titles.

Furthermore, a company will rarely give an accurate number of the active player base, because it is, from a business stand point, in said company's best interest to inflate the number. This is why instead of saying over (insert timeframe) we've had Y unique account logins, they say (insert game) has over Z subscribers. Also that subscriber measure is normally taken right after major content releases which will always boost numbers due to players returning to play new content.

That's fantastic & well known. I appreciate you pointing this out but unless the number of active players has whittled down to less than 10k, 500 ppl don't mean squat. Which was the original point. Not that anyone in this thread is interested in acknowledging anyone with a differing opinions point...

This thread should be retitled "The World's Worst Amateur Debate".

I was refuting the point of there being millions of players, and later even with digital sales. I never included ties-in with those statements referring to the poll vs the player base. I merely stated the offical forums are not the only place lack of text chat is being discussed.

If you want a person to acknowledge your points, a first step would perhaps be to not put words in their mouth. Moreover when I take the time to refute a numerical claim within your point, that is infact an acknowledge.

NSS... the exact number in & of itself had nothing to do with the actual point being made. That point being the giant gap between players & poll participation. Now, for the sake of the discussion, does it matter if the gap is 500,000 to one or 100,000 to one? I don't think so. Not in the context of this discussion or for the point being made.

Now, some ppl could categorize your response as fecetious. I would never say such a thing, but some might. They might also say that the information that you gave goes without saying. Or say it was redundant as well as having nothing to do with the point of the post. That's what some might say. I wouldn't. What I'll say is: Thanks for taking the time to express your concern over a general number & attempting to correct the dull generality into an explanation on why the number cannot be made exact & remains vague & cloudy. And thanks for taking the time to refute a vague numerical value with the reasons why it's vague. Thanks a pantload.

Lol...

Acknowledgement ≠ Agreement. Life is easier if accept that fact. If you want to call my statements facetious and redundant just do it. If you are going to make up numbers people are likely to rebut them. If you are so frustrated with the discourse why do you continue to engage in it?

When I said 2 mil, that should have been your first hint that I wasn't going for an exact number. If I were, what I would have said was 2,214,931 or 1,856,007 etc... so when you accuse someone of "making up a number" when that person was obviously being vague on purpose & the exact number has nothing to do with the point. I would say that you're most likely baiting.

And good sir, please make no mistake, I am not frustrated. In fact, I believe I thanked you & would love to continue analysis on why humans sometimes round numbers when the exact number is irrelevant.



Or stay & chat awile. I think you've got what it takes.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

cerrudo33 wrote: »

This is not meant to ignite any type of flaming or digression but I honestly don't understand the logic of some people in the community and ZOS in general...

I've already or forward by two cents earlier in this thread but what makes a console getting text chat so vastly different from PC players wanting controller support?

The company I believe said this is in the works yet many of the "logical" responses against text chat have been along the lines of "... Not a PC", "ZOS is trying to be original", etc. but what makes the desire for controller support on PC any different then chat support on console? Can always play a console if you want a controller and a PC if you want text, am I right?

My point being this should be added in and ZOS needs to give a definitive answer if they want esotu to have staying power on the console and not just PC which in all fairness has the ability to circumvent the devs shortcomings of the game with mods

To be honest...I don't know that a PC gamer asking for controller support is the same but I do feel that PC should offer controller support. I personally feel that's it's a night and day request. One already supports controllers and people are already playing on PC with a controller with third party software. Considering consoles have the support and UI builds the development for this can be complex but it's within line of what ZOS hopes to offer.

I'll not comment on the text chat piece as I've prob commented to you on this prior but only say that a text chat box for console isn't within what ZOS wants to offer.

bareheiny wrote: »

I believe that PC has text but no voice...however voice is coming.

But really, if voice is so much superior that text, why hasn't PC voice been implemented sooner rather than later given that ESO has been available on PC for over a year.

I guess one could argue that third party applications fill that void...but each player would have their own personal preference, so I don't see that standing up to much scrutiny.

I feel like a broken record now

Seriously, all ZOS needs to do is say "yay" or "nay". In plain English so there is no room for misinterpretation. And then I can move onto the next "issue" I have with ESO....gamer tags being displayed instead of my well thought out and (mostly) lore friendly character names.