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Can we get a magicka morph of rapid maneuvers?

Aquanova
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Since dodge roll, block and soon to be shields( being able to crit on them ) have been nerfed in 1.7, I was thinking it would be a good idea to have a magicka morph for rapid maneuvers, what do you all think? I'm not sure, but I don't think anyone really uses "Charging Maneuvers" and both that and "Retreating Maneuvers" use stamina, so magicka users might benefit from it with these new changes.
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  • Tankqull
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    sure and when they are at it a magica version of evasion would be fair too.
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  • Yakidafi
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    Why would you want it in magicka? Just curious.
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  • Aquanova
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    Yakidafi wrote: »
    Why would you want it in magicka? Just curious.

    We can't dodge roll or block as effectively as we did in 1.6, so a speed boost using my largest resource would be nice. (This pertains to my DK mage btw)
    Tankqull wrote: »
    sure and when they are at it a magica version of evasion would be fair too.

    What ever floats your boat dude :) I just care about using a speed boost for my mage. DK's don't have alot of mobility and neither do templars.
    Edited by Aquanova on 1 August 2015 15:52
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  • redspecter23
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    When my DK gets a stamina Lava Whip, you can have a magicka Rapid Maneuvers.
  • Aquanova
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    When my DK gets a stamina Lava Whip, you can have a magicka Rapid Maneuvers.

    @redspecter23 I'd love for DK'S to have a stamina lava whip morph, that and alot of other DK class skills. As i posted, this pertains to my magicka DK, but I like having options ;)
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  • Docmandu
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    Aquanova wrote: »
    I don't think anyone really uses "Charging Maneuvers"

    I picked it on a new character just to see how it is, since I usually take the other morph. However, the skill just doesn't work 80% of the time, you don't get any speed, but loose the stamina for casting and this also when there's nobody around and you haven't attacked anyone since logging in.
    Relogging fixes it.. and sometimes it "unbugs" after a while... but meh.. severly broken skill !
  • Aquanova
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    Docmandu wrote: »
    Aquanova wrote: »
    I don't think anyone really uses "Charging Maneuvers"

    I picked it on a new character just to see how it is, since I usually take the other morph. However, the skill just doesn't work 80% of the time, you don't get any speed, but loose the stamina for casting and this also when there's nobody around and you haven't attacked anyone since logging in.
    Relogging fixes it.. and sometimes it "unbugs" after a while... but meh.. severly broken skill !

    Yes I've noticed that's been happening alot. Hope they fix this bug, it's really sucks to lose the stamina and not get the buff.
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  • kadar
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    Aquanova wrote: »
    Since dodge roll, block and soon to be shields( being able to crit on them ) have been nerfed in 1.7, I was thinking it would be a good idea to have a magicka morph for rapid maneuvers, what do you all think? I'm not sure, but I don't think anyone really uses "Charging Maneuvers" and both that and "Retreating Maneuvers" use stamina, so magicka users might benefit from it with these new changes.

    My thoughts are that the Alliance War tree skills are intended for group play as their main function. In a group you use many group skills and abilities to maximize your effectiveness.

    All of the abilities in the Assault line use Stam, while all in Support use Magicka. Stamina builds have the same difficulty using support abilities like Purge and Siege Sheild that Magicka builds have using Rapids and Vigor, for example.

    Imo, this seems balanced. Or are we looking for Magicka caltrops and Stamina Purge?

    I understand where you're coming from though, playing a Dk and wanting an easy source of mobility.
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    I want a magicka based Vigor morph first.
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    I want a magicka Steel Tornado. Noone uses the other morph anyway. #NoKidding
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    Aquanova wrote: »
    Since dodge roll, block and soon to be shields( being able to crit on them ) have been nerfed in 1.7, I was thinking it would be a good idea to have a magicka morph for rapid maneuvers, what do you all think? I'm not sure, but I don't think anyone really uses "Charging Maneuvers" and both that and "Retreating Maneuvers" use stamina, so magicka users might benefit from it with these new changes.

    My thoughts are that the Alliance War tree skills are intended for group play as their main function. In a group you use many group skills and abilities to maximize your effectiveness.

    All of the abilities in the Assault line use Stam, while all in Support use Magicka. Stamina builds have the same difficulty using support abilities like Purge and Siege Sheild that Magicka builds have using Rapids and Vigor, for example.

    Imo, this seems balanced. Or are we looking for Magicka caltrops and Stamina Purge?


    I understand where you're coming from though, playing a Dk and wanting an easy source of mobility.

    I've thought for a while now that it's pretty imbalanced for stamina builds to have the easiest use of Aliiance War assault skills. Rapids and caltrops especially (I'm sure vigor is too) are so good in PvP, but as a magicka class/build I won't use Caltrops because of the stamina cost and the only time rapids is on my bar is when I temp-swap to my equestrian simulator bar. I sure as hell am not going to sacrifice slots on any bar for purge or siege shield as I don't need them. I highly doubt the vast majority of stamina users want to use purge and siege shield either, so it's funny you give those examples. If some of your guild mates want to be healbots that's fine, but don't pigeonhole all magicka builds into a support-and-heal category.
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  • Lutallo
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    I agree. My Magicka Templar has literally no escape, at all. My only option is to become a vampire but I don't have near enough champion points/money to pull it off
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  • Minnesinger
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    Why not! What the heck add stamina version of magicka detonation as well.
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