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NB + Emperor + Mist Form + Devouring Swarm...

Kammakazi
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Probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in this game. I'm not even mad at the guy! He's currently Emperor in Azura's Star Console.

Every single battle he will always wipe out groups and groups of people because of his set up. Fast teleporting / Roll dodging / Mist Form & Bat Swarm every second.
  • teladoy
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    Why don't you become Emperor to do the same?

    Complain is easy, fight for it is more complicated.
  • Kammakazi
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    teladoy wrote: »
    Why don't you become Emperor to do the same?

    Complain is easy, fight for it is more complicated.

    Who said I was complaining? I applaud the guy for being the only one able to do that.
  • Ezareth
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    It's been the emperor recipe for killing bads since the beginning of the game. Literally hundreds of emperors have done this and they still do.

    It's pretty easy to counter though.
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  • ScruffyWhiskers
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    Yeah, there was an emperor on chill about a month ago and it was pretty sad that he couldn't be more effective with his emperorness. The zone chat was pretty funny with comments like I'm calling Emperor Poo Alert and Turd on the Throne! All that I could think was that the poor guy was trying hard but he needed more bats.
  • Truewavesound
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    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
  • Kobaal
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    You havn't seen anything yet....
    Kobaal - VR16 Dragon Knight - PC [NA] Azura Star
    Kobaal Shadowborn - VR16 NightBlade - PC [NA] Azura Star
    Kobaal Stormborn- VR3 Sorcerer - PC [NA] Azura Star
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  • ToRelax
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    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.
    DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
    The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...

    Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU
  • Truewavesound
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    Why is NB preferable? Is anyone going to answer (please) or just give more bad attitude like ToRelax?
  • pppontus
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    Edited by pppontus on 17 July 2023 07:04
  • ToRelax
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    Why is NB preferable? Is anyone going to answer (please) or just give more bad attitude like ToRelax?

    Bad attitude... ?
    I just told you it's not a good tactic at all.
    DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
    The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...

    Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU
  • Roselle
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    You have to admit using Devouring Swarm and Mist Form at the same time makes you really feel like a vampire though.
    This one was rekt by Zenimax
  • Master_Kas
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    No? Haven't you seen that dc sorc scwazier-magier or however he spells it , prox deto, clouding swarm, streak, impulse.
    He wipe alot of Ppl easily. Same with Hexiss .

    Haven't seen Any nb emp using this tactic for a long while . But surley it happens, not doubting. Just that sorcs can do very very well with similar combo. All nb gets "better" is sap instead of impulse and 10% more spelldmg in invis. :D
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  • ToRelax
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    No? Haven't you seen that dc sorc scwazier-magier or however he spells it , prox deto, clouding swarm, streak, impulse.
    He wipe alot of Ppl easily. Same with Hexiss .

    Haven't seen Any nb emp using this tactic for a long while . But surley it happens, not doubting. Just that sorcs can do very very well with similar combo. All nb gets "better" is sap instead of impulse and 10% more spelldmg in invis. :D

    I said it's not a good idea using Mistform in Devouring Swarm. Also said Clouding Swarm is better.
    Really now, I am well aware of what a sorc emp can do. :)
    DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
    The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...

    Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU
  • King Bozo
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    teladoy wrote: »
    Why don't you become Emperor to do the same?

    Complain is easy, fight for it is more complicated.

    Who said I was complaining? I applaud the guy for being the only one able to do that.

    If your not complaining I don't think you would have started this thread.
  • Master_Kas
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    No? Haven't you seen that dc sorc scwazier-magier or however he spells it , prox deto, clouding swarm, streak, impulse.
    He wipe alot of Ppl easily. Same with Hexiss .

    Haven't seen Any nb emp using this tactic for a long while . But surley it happens, not doubting. Just that sorcs can do very very well with similar combo. All nb gets "better" is sap instead of impulse and 10% more spelldmg in invis. :D

    I said it's not a good idea using Mistform in Devouring Swarm. Also said Clouding Swarm is better.
    Really now, I am well aware of what a sorc emp can do. :)

    It was this I was replying to my dear torelax, bane of my NB : "And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.".
    Edited by Master_Kas on 8 August 2015 11:55
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  • ToRelax
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    No? Haven't you seen that dc sorc scwazier-magier or however he spells it , prox deto, clouding swarm, streak, impulse.
    He wipe alot of Ppl easily. Same with Hexiss .

    Haven't seen Any nb emp using this tactic for a long while . But surley it happens, not doubting. Just that sorcs can do very very well with similar combo. All nb gets "better" is sap instead of impulse and 10% more spelldmg in invis. :D

    I said it's not a good idea using Mistform in Devouring Swarm. Also said Clouding Swarm is better.
    Really now, I am well aware of what a sorc emp can do. :)

    It was this I was replying to my dear torelax, bane of my NB : "And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.".

    Well, the differences here at not big, that's true - since a character in swarm + mistform is admittedly not the most active character. Of course the Sorc can do that, bolt out again and come back with the next swarm, but if you want to kill anyone, it would probably be a better idea just staying there, in wich case the NB has the better skillset at his disposal. A DK would do even better unless the NB is using Siphoning Attacks + Caltrops. WIch would be a good idea otherwise, but doesn't help with the swarm.
    DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
    The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...

    Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU
  • Master_Kas
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    No? Haven't you seen that dc sorc scwazier-magier or however he spells it , prox deto, clouding swarm, streak, impulse.
    He wipe alot of Ppl easily. Same with Hexiss .

    Haven't seen Any nb emp using this tactic for a long while . But surley it happens, not doubting. Just that sorcs can do very very well with similar combo. All nb gets "better" is sap instead of impulse and 10% more spelldmg in invis. :D

    I said it's not a good idea using Mistform in Devouring Swarm. Also said Clouding Swarm is better.
    Really now, I am well aware of what a sorc emp can do. :)

    It was this I was replying to my dear torelax, bane of my NB : "And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.".

    Well, the differences here at not big, that's true - since a character in swarm + mistform is admittedly not the most active character. Of course the Sorc can do that, bolt out again and come back with the next swarm, but if you want to kill anyone, it would probably be a better idea just staying there, in wich case the NB has the better skillset at his disposal. A DK would do even better unless the NB is using Siphoning Attacks + Caltrops. WIch would be a good idea otherwise, but doesn't help with the swarm.

    Ah okey. I see what you mean :)

    Actually going to turn my sorc into a vampire right now to play with swarm, since I do not have detonation yet :( alliance rank 12..
    EU | PC
  • revonine
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    I know who your referring too OP, I actually got the killing the emperor achievement by killing him lol xD
    Anyway it's not his setup that makes him OP it's just the fact any emperor is God-mode no matter the class. Also I'm fairly certain he was a PC transfer due to his alliance rank so his mass of CP's probably help.
  • cschwingeb14_ESO
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    Sorc is not necessarily better due to Soul Harvest. Kill 3-4 people during/between swarms and NB is better
  • Erondil
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    No? Haven't you seen that dc sorc scwazier-magier or however he spells it , prox deto, clouding swarm, streak, impulse.
    He wipe alot of Ppl easily. Same with Hexiss .

    Haven't seen Any nb emp using this tactic for a long while . But surley it happens, not doubting. Just that sorcs can do very very well with similar combo. All nb gets "better" is sap instead of impulse and 10% more spelldmg in invis. :D

    I heard Dennegor haderus emp was op :p
    clouding swarm+prox deto+fear+soul tether was so fun amagad
    Edited by Erondil on 11 August 2015 15:48
    ~retired~
    EU server, former Zerg Squad and Banana Squad officer
    Dennegor NB AD, AvA 50 Grand Overlord 24/05/2016
    rekt you NB AD, AvA 32
    Erondil Sorc AD, AvA 23
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  • Master_Kas
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    Erondil wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    No? Haven't you seen that dc sorc scwazier-magier or however he spells it , prox deto, clouding swarm, streak, impulse.
    He wipe alot of Ppl easily. Same with Hexiss .

    Haven't seen Any nb emp using this tactic for a long while . But surley it happens, not doubting. Just that sorcs can do very very well with similar combo. All nb gets "better" is sap instead of impulse and 10% more spelldmg in invis. :D

    I heard Dennegor haderus emp was op :p

    I missed it ! :( If you have get some clips up!
    EU | PC
  • Erondil
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Erondil wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Surely Sorc would be better due to extra 15% ultimate cost reduction. Or am I missing something here? :)
    Using Mistform inside Devouring Swarm hasn't been a good tactic since the first month of the game.
    That being said, Clouding Swarm always was better imo, especially for NBs and Sorcs.
    And no, Sorc would not do better with this tactic.

    No? Haven't you seen that dc sorc scwazier-magier or however he spells it , prox deto, clouding swarm, streak, impulse.
    He wipe alot of Ppl easily. Same with Hexiss .

    Haven't seen Any nb emp using this tactic for a long while . But surley it happens, not doubting. Just that sorcs can do very very well with similar combo. All nb gets "better" is sap instead of impulse and 10% more spelldmg in invis. :D

    I heard Dennegor haderus emp was op :p

    I missed it ! :( If you have get some clips up!

    It was in june, sadly couldnt record because I had too many fps drops with fraps+ many players on the screen :/
    ~retired~
    EU server, former Zerg Squad and Banana Squad officer
    Dennegor NB AD, AvA 50 Grand Overlord 24/05/2016
    rekt you NB AD, AvA 32
    Erondil Sorc AD, AvA 23
    Denne the Banana Slayer NB EP, AvA 14
    Darth Dennegor lv50 Stamina NB DC, AvA 19
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