Cheating or lag?

Dan198Zero · July 2015

Just a quick glimpse of one of 2 NB's on the PS4 Haderus campaign that are near impossible to kill. Well I still havent seen one die. I have seem this player take damage from 10+ people laugh at them, then kill them all. It's either lag, cheating or this is the result of ZOS letting people transfer over 3000 cp+ players from PC. Kinda ruins the who of Cyrodiil and considering the new dlc is based in Cyrodiil I can see where this will lead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZDQX7_DAQ

mtwiggz · July 2015

Honestly looks like a lot of lag. His constant roll dodging would be why he takes nearly no damage, your lack of blocking - at all - is why you take so much.

PS; no one has near 3,000 Champ points. Especially when PC to console transfers were being offered.

ToRelax · July 2015

The first death could be laggy.
The second though is completely legit.

BurtFreeman · July 2015

mtwiggz wrote: »

Honestly looks like a lot of lag. His constant roll dodging would be why he takes nearly no damage, your lack of blocking - at all - is why you take so much.

PS; no one has near 3,000 Champ points. Especially when PC to console transfers were being offered.

i suppose that a good grinder is far away i cp gain, anyway, once yuo reach 1080 points, you enjoy all those crazy passives that make this kind of complaing pretty reasonable.

Dan198Zero · July 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

The first death could be laggy.
The second though is completely legit.

He got all those moves off in that amount of time? 2 heavy attacks?

Xael · July 2015

Dan198Zero wrote: »

Just a quick glimpse of one of 2 NB's on the PS4 Haderus campaign that are near impossible to kill. Well I still havent seen one die. I have seem this player take damage from 10+ people laugh at them, then kill them all. It's either lag, cheating or this is the result of ZOS letting people transfer over 3000 cp+ players from PC. Kinda ruins the who of Cyrodiil and considering the new dlc is based in Cyrodiil I can see where this will lead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdZDQX7_DAQ

This is exactly why some of you should keep their mouth shut regarding the whining about CP. Even newbies are now parroting this myth of 3k CP boogiemen killing people.

eliisra · July 2015

I can sort of see why you died there. Once revived you didn't heal up instantly and block/pop shield. You started fiddling with that console chat thing, than slowly walking inside a tower, while you had the snipe mark on your head.

Right now in PvP, you need to have a dmg mitigating shield up always or you block/sneak. If neither of those things are protection your health pool you can get instakilled in less than a second. I'm not saying it's fun or anything, I dont think it's intended either, just the way it is. You get hit by 3-4 different thing from one player in one go from sneak and just drop. But a lot of factors are causing it not necessarily cheats, macro blah-blah lagsploit 3000 CP.

It's also sluggish game-play and really bad design of travelling times v.s. instant skills, combined with mediocre performance and skill delay.

ToRelax · July 2015

Dan198Zero wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

The first death could be laggy.
The second though is completely legit.

He got all those moves off in that amount of time? 2 heavy attacks?

Yes.
First he uses heavy attack + poison injection, then another, not fully charged heavy attack. Then he finishes with ambush + soul harvest.

PBpsy · July 2015

Y U no Flappy Flapity Flap Flap?

Dan198Zero · July 2015

Cheers for the input guys/girls. I know I should be blocking more. Just kinds gets me it's the same 2 players that ruin me every time with *** deaths like that.

silentxthreat · July 2015

for what it's worth fighting better players then your self will make you a better player. If someone hardcore owns me I ually whisper them by /whisper name of player, to ask how they did that or if we can have a few more 1v1 so I can attempt to find my mistakes and correct it. cheers and gl

BurtFreeman · July 2015

Xael wrote: »

This is exactly why some of you should keep their mouth shut regarding the whining about CP. Even newbies are now parroting this myth of 3k CP boogiemen killing people.

if people cannot talk about what they think in a game forum, which is the idea of discussion you are proposing?
talk previous your permission?

believe or not, with 1080 cp points you are going to cheating versus new players, that probabily has only couple of hundreads.
have a look of the cp passives before shut up posters.

Xael · July 2015

BurtFreeman wrote: »

Xael wrote: »

This is exactly why some of you should keep their mouth shut regarding the whining about CP. Even newbies are now parroting this myth of 3k CP boogiemen killing people.

if people cannot talk about what they think in a game forum, which is the idea of discussion you are proposing?
talk previous your permission?

believe or not, with 1080 cp points you are going to cheating versus new players, that probabily has only couple of hundreads.
have a look of the cp passives before shut up posters.

I didn't say people "cannot talk what they think" on the forum.
I did however say people who don't know what they are talking about need to keep their mouth shut and stop spreading lies. The OPs statement about 3k CP players killing him is case in point. As for your 1080 CP statement, that's rubbish. Player skill goes a lot farther than CP. More importantly several of us have (on many different occasions) reset our CP just to prove we can kill people while not using them.

BurtFreeman · July 2015

Xael wrote: »

some of you should keep their mouth shut regarding the whining about CP.

Xael wrote: »

I didn't say people "cannot talk what they think" on the forum.
I did however say people who don't know what they are talking about need to keep their mouth shut and stop spreading lies.
... As for your 1080 CP statement, that's rubbish...

your previous post and this make no difference: i still need your permission before post

you say i must shut up, but i still talking about what i think. so where is your power?
i could probabily spent a day to describe how cheating is the cp system comparing to people that have no point at all,
but i think that every body know the case of the blinded screamer.

Xael wrote: »

More importantly several of us have (on many different occasions) reset our CP just to prove we can kill people while not using them.

of us who?
fortunately you are just killing pixel

Armitas · July 2015

I like how the animations for the first death happen a few seconds after you are dead. You just keel over then when you're on the ground a second later the first arrow hits then a few moments later the second one hits.

Xeniph · July 2015

To be honest I saw nothing stellar about his gameplay. What I did see is quite a few inexperienced players attacking him.

And his damage is quite tame.

Etharian · July 2015

Xeniph wrote: »

To be honest I saw nothing stellar about his gameplay. What I did see is quite a few inexperienced players attacking him.

And his damage is quite tame.

lmao , ppl like you ruin pvp for this game. Tame? yeah Fn right.. ZOS needs to fix the dmg in this game and macros and exploits. This isnt a FPS

Tankqull · July 2015

Xeniph wrote: »

To be honest I saw nothing stellar about his gameplay. What I did see is quite a few inexperienced players attacking him.

And his damage is quite tame.

jip everything in that vid was perfectly fine.

Tankqull · July 2015

Etharian wrote: »

Xeniph wrote: »

To be honest I saw nothing stellar about his gameplay. What I did see is quite a few inexperienced players attacking him.

And his damage is quite tame.

lmao , ppl like you ruin pvp for this game. Tame? yeah Fn right.. ZOS needs to fix the dmg in this game and macros and exploits. This isnt a FPS

and?
the dmg is to high no one denies that - none the less within the dmg possible currently the showed dmg values are rather low.

Kobaal · July 2015

BTW, OP, you have posted a video which shows player names of whom you are accusing of possibly cheating. The mods might see your post as an attempt to Name/Shame these players in your video, which is against the forum rules.

Just a heads up.

Thanks for reading.

MmmmTofu · July 2015

First one is clearly lag, you were dead two seconds before you dropped dead.

Second one... idk

Ganj · July 2015

Xael wrote: »

This is exactly why some of you should keep their mouth shut regarding the whining about CP. Even newbies are now parroting this myth of 3k CP boogiemen killing people.

Yea you are right. We shouldnt even use this forum. Dont ask anything or lets not talk about anything. Otherwise you can get mad to other people instead of helping them.

By the way the first one was a bit laggy of course because it is Cyrodiil i mean cmon there should be lag for sure. Second one looks like kinda related with your blocking skills tho.