pppontus wrote: »

HouLiGaN wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Comrades, let's face it: our cherished little campaign is no longer what it used to be; it turned into the same garbage as vets we have fled from, because ZOS has screwed up precisely what had made it intriguing:

- they have buffed players' stats and enabled them to spam skills perpetually (among other things speed buffing skills)
- they reworked provisioning and introduced consumable scaling, which further compounded the above power creep
- that also made NPC guards relatively weaker
- on top of it, they actually nerfed NPC guards' damage output
- as though NPC guards were not already reduced to a joke, they totally forgot to buff them to withstand buffed damage from siege engines (which was buffed barely enough to make up for players' power creep)

Result: instead of slow, tactical gameplay where resources mattered, keeps even more so and, especially, death, we have yet another deathmatch arena.
Thought it would eventually succumb to horrors of P2W, but you have exceeded expectations and ruined it in advance, ZOS, shame on you!

Don't know, I've been in Non vet since October, kind of like how it is now. The only thing I do not like in Non-Vet is the Cp points everyone has, It's in fashion nowadays to see a DK full of CP points going around just tanking everything..

We have them Ep has them even Ad...
That's the only thing I don't like. The it's takes like 5-6 new players with no CP points to take down one of these guyz .

Honestly I doubt it's CP that makes the biggest difference, I agree it shouldn't be in non vet but I think it's more the fact that they are using regen drinks, regen mundus, broken nirnhoned trait and have experience as players. I mean 200 CP gives you like 10% more damage, 10% less damage taken from spells and elemental and 10% more regen to magicka/stamina.. something like that.

On the other hand, the people who actually use 3+ nirnhoned in non vet should truly feel bad for themselves IMO. If you need that to win in a campaign with so many new players, that's just stupid.. I could do that but I would just have to puke all over myself all the time and that doesn't sound pleasant.

Why use experiance when u have a Zerg to back u up ?? Haha only joking ;P
P.S I'm Only posting to get another badge, so I can tell my parents I was a good boy getting another star and all xD !!

But Yeah I guess your right, still getting the hang of some of the Builds, I'm not the guy to go to for that kind of advice ;P

pppontus wrote: »

HouLiGaN wrote: »

pppontus wrote: »

HouLiGaN wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Comrades, let's face it: our cherished little campaign is no longer what it used to be; it turned into the same garbage as vets we have fled from, because ZOS has screwed up precisely what had made it intriguing:

- they have buffed players' stats and enabled them to spam skills perpetually (among other things speed buffing skills)
- they reworked provisioning and introduced consumable scaling, which further compounded the above power creep
- that also made NPC guards relatively weaker
- on top of it, they actually nerfed NPC guards' damage output
- as though NPC guards were not already reduced to a joke, they totally forgot to buff them to withstand buffed damage from siege engines (which was buffed barely enough to make up for players' power creep)

Result: instead of slow, tactical gameplay where resources mattered, keeps even more so and, especially, death, we have yet another deathmatch arena.
Thought it would eventually succumb to horrors of P2W, but you have exceeded expectations and ruined it in advance, ZOS, shame on you!

Don't know, I've been in Non vet since October, kind of like how it is now. The only thing I do not like in Non-Vet is the Cp points everyone has, It's in fashion nowadays to see a DK full of CP points going around just tanking everything..

We have them Ep has them even Ad...
That's the only thing I don't like. The it's takes like 5-6 new players with no CP points to take down one of these guyz .

Honestly I doubt it's CP that makes the biggest difference, I agree it shouldn't be in non vet but I think it's more the fact that they are using regen drinks, regen mundus, broken nirnhoned trait and have experience as players. I mean 200 CP gives you like 10% more damage, 10% less damage taken from spells and elemental and 10% more regen to magicka/stamina.. something like that.

On the other hand, the people who actually use 3+ nirnhoned in non vet should truly feel bad for themselves IMO. If you need that to win in a campaign with so many new players, that's just stupid.. I could do that but I would just have to puke all over myself all the time and that doesn't sound pleasant.

Why use experiance when u have a Zerg to back u up ?? Haha only joking ;P
P.S I'm Only posting to get another badge, so I can tell my parents I was a good boy getting another star and all xD !!

But Yeah I guess your right, still getting the hang of some of the Builds, I'm not the guy to go to for that kind of advice ;P

We're all here for the stars, don't worry!

Lmao, the ironic part, is that 3/4 of the posts on forums are usually just spamming to get a star or a rank etc.. If they removed that, it will tottaly demotivate a lot of people from actually posting much. And the threads that will open will actually be more accurate. ( sorry of taking this off topic)

But anyway, with the imperial launch does anyone know if We will be able to enter imperial city with non-vet chars?? And if yes, will still vet 16 items drop? I mean if I remember correctly vet 16 items will drop in imperial city and also some kind of new currency..

And if I got the hole idea of the imperial city correct, it's so sad that it's not something that you can Capture. I was really hoping that it would be something to cap, but would only open like once a week or smthng ..

It's more like a PvP/PvE zone . That is still Intresting but yeah I would like to cap it ;P

sunday morning, everyone is sleeping. everyone? no, not everyone, a small dc group face the heroic "pvp" challange roll the whole map and knocking on ghartok. U must be really skilled. happy pve-ing.

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HouLiGaN wrote: »

How about the passive's, u get from Cp points, the was that unlock etc.. I mean u do see the animations activate, like the white or red glow etc etc .. Do they work? And I do believe that they do work @pppontus , I think the elemental defender was is kinda Buged and doesn't work, but the other ones do ;P

Some work and some are bugged. The ones that you can get when you have over 300 are probably decent, I don't know as I don't have them. I don't think I've seen anyone with those amounts of CP in BWB though, would take a lot of grinding..

It was probably a lot of non-regulars (on vacation/summer holiday fom school) , uncertain in their skills at facing large numbers, who pushed for emp. Or casual PVP-ers who wanted to enjoy a bit of emp alliance bonus in PVE-land before it's removed. It's happened before.

I could be wrong, though.

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pppontus wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

Escadero wrote: »

sunday morning, everyone is sleeping. everyone? no, not everyone, a small dc group face the heroic "pvp" challange roll the whole map and knocking on ghartok. U must be really skilled. happy pve-ing.

It's not even funny anymore. EP's scrolls PvDoor'd again and didnt even get a chance to take them back today because AD had emp fever for the rest of the day right after DC was dethroned. Another campaign cycle down the drain.

Guess EP should be proud that AD/DC are stooping to such low levels to get us to lose campaigns, but it's hardly an interesting way to go about it.

Yes, EP never did anything campaign ruining.. ever.. naaaaah

Because their maximum population is late afternoon when they outnumber everyone 2to1 and then PVE siege most of the map and hold it all night, every day 365 days a year.. that makes them heroes! doesn't it?

It doesn't hurt to have some perspective.

Don't be silly. EP being poplocked when the others are at 3 bars is hardly a 2-to-1 advantage. The next time there's a 50+ blue blob at Chalman and an even bigger yellow blob swarming BRK Ill take pictures so you can all see your own heroics in action.

Perspective indeed. It doesnt matter anyway. EP, AD, DC.. anyone PvDooring scrolls is being an absolute fool, to be honest.

What this comes down to is people taking the easy way to victory. Nobody can be arsed to set up well organised groups regularly on AD/DC so they now resort to door'ing our scrolls. Isn't it great to win a campaign while putting in much less time and effort than the other guys? I'm seeing this campaign turn into mini-Thornblade more and more every day, and honestly there's a reason I was fighting on Blackwater Blade and not Thornblade.

There used to be a lot of alliance pride and mutual respect here, and now it seems to be all about farming newbies for AP as much as possible (preferably all day at outposts) and trying to ruin the day for the guys on the other team. Nothing but animosity towards each other. And this goes for every alliance... even EP is nothing like it used to be.

@ToRelax , Yep, Guilds were formed, More experiance leaders started to lead Daily, causing everyone to up there game!

@Valencer Yo, @pppontus was being funny about you guys being able to stick it to anyone at prime time. everyone knows, when prime time goes down, DC have the upper hand. Sometimes it's not the case tho, most of the times tho when the Group leads are on everyone gets over excited and magic starts to happen and Dc is the less Pop locked Alliance oute of the three.
You have to admit, EP brought Night cap to BWB and Ad Brought Morning Cap. I'm not blaming anyone. And hey if you can do it then do it, it's part of the game. PvP in Eso/Cyro is based on strategy and tactics, night caping or morning is a strategy. The only reason I would get mad at one is if the team that done it said they had a "Hard" time doing it. Other then that Well done if u became EMP. Or took the scrolls at the end of the day it's a game. Now for Dc nightcaping, the first DC night cap was to prove a point, just to say Hey guys if we want EMP so badly we can do this also.

Now for the green alliance forming or the Pvdooring all the way to red scrolls , I'll try to be specific about this. Ep, have many American players, players that when Eu players sleep, they are online on Eu server. Now, I have recently been informed that some red guild on US server even advertises that if any Guildie wants to be EMP so bad for the experiance etc, they say just log into Eu megaserver make a char and be first, we will crown u over day, ( that's Night capin for the reds) . now there has been many complaints from many players about this. So DC, and Ad woke up. Now that EP is nowhere close to taking EMP , it sucks badly. And I'm proud of it to say the truth and support any action taken against other alliances from DC side.

Remember it's a game @Valencer no one will give u a prize if u take it back and give it to your enemies, the scrolls give buffs, so even if Blue or red or Jellow's xD, Cap everything throu the night so the next day all there new players can have Bonuses when they exp/quest etc then We'll done to them.

Cyro is made for that. It's made so u can get bonusses for your Pveing allies, Hence you can never Just be a Pver and not always a PvPer, only if you stay in BWB, cus u can just use your same items that never change in different new chars etc.
that's why I have started to doubt BWB. Yes the Pvp is Good, But really, why make a Guild and keep them all in Non-Vet? And especially invite new players to it? At the end they will not be able to actually have a right opinion on the game.
Besides Non-Vet is made for new players. That's why Cp points are allowed. No one was thinking that people would grind on New players with there Cp points. and for the people that do do that, well done they are the idiots destroying Eso, when a newbie joins Non-vet and sees this kind of activity, that's an Op unbalanced class for them. It's not a fair fight at all. F

For all these reasons, I do not log that much in BWB anymore, I only do if I'm online and anyone sets glade UA. Other then that I don't care much.

As a Guild Leader, I cared more about my Guild then my faction. But continuing this behavior in BWB, is just going to ruin My alliance hence also the game. So as a guild leader and a big Scrolls fan. I decided to push my 200+ members to vet campaign even tho some of them still go to BWB.

Remember Elder Scrolls Online, is a game of a chain of games, before this it was skyrim, if they release a new game? What will happen ?? Most of the people know the game from Skyrim. Yes other MMo players came to play. But it's not like WOW, or lineage2 or anything like that . So if you really care about the game, get your ass out of BWB and leave it for new players to have fun and learn there steps around PvPing.

We cry about Cp points making a difference, we cry about night caps, morning craps, and anything that anyone can crap about. Yes I meant to say crap both times. We should all make a change, and start with our selves. If you need to be in BWB 24/7 to have fun in this game, my opinion is that you never deserved to have fun in this game. Eso TU is about making a champion, a hero etc, it's not about sticking in Non-Vet. Now cry all u want about Vet pvp, But really, it's not like it's unfair , everyone can do everything that happends to them, and it's not a 2 game alliance so the allies change from minute to minute. And if you cry about a game update, like this update doesn't help my build or doesn't let me win etc etc, then u just want Eso to die out. Players in this game are numbered the newbies joining will have an expiry date. It's up to us to support the updates, so the game can carry on, and if u don't like something just complain about it, or deal with it.

Anyway I said enouph.

Thanks in advance if u took your time to read my post. Now, all you "experianced" hard core players , can have a piece of me one by one. Shame on Us tho, even me. We shouldn't of made BWB like this. but atleast I have seen where I Fed up, and now I'm gonna try to fix it.

P.S the reason why I'm stateing that being in BWB like this will kill Eso, is that I kicked 30 players from my guild the other day that have been offline for quite some time. I don't think there coming back. I have an addon showing me my Guildies chars in each of there account, realized what is happening once I saw all there chars below 50 or close to v1.

I wrote this from my iPhone so be cool about typos ! Thx

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Well, for what it's worth, I could send you my post... it's pretty lengthy and after last night I just didn't feel like bothering anymore, but it is a summary of my thoughts and ruminations on the subject.

I do disagree with you saying only numbers matter... they do matter, a lot, but organisation makes all the difference too and the 2 are intertwined. I dont think EP magically has a number advantage simply because theyre EP. We've got people putting in the effort to give players reliable groups to join and that makes it more fun for people to log on and partake in the alliance war.

Hell, the number advantage isnt even that great anymore, it's just that sometimes the momentum keeps going into the night, but this has happened at DC too for a while now. Just yesterday DC rolled over Chalman at 4 am with 30 people while there were only a handful of EP defending. Then they eventually got wiped at Arrius (yes, they tried) because the small amount of us that were there cleverly capped Arrius mine back behind their backs while they were sieging.

I will say that last night the last 2 emp keeps were blue and that blue had 2 bar population, just like us. That's why we pushed for emperorship at that time. (Oh, and the emp is a guildie of mine) I don't feel like I need to justify it any more than that.

Valencer wrote: »

Well, for what it's worth, I could send you my post... it's pretty lengthy and after last night I just didn't feel like bothering anymore, but it is a summary of my thoughts and ruminations on the subject.
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Please post what u were going to say ;P I really wanna see why u mentioned me... That's why I got annoyed in my Defence...

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