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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Bring back 200 ulti Standard (of Might/Shifting)

Bipolo
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Sure, the days of dropping multiple Banners ended with 1.6's ultimate changes (/miss) and most of the player-base rejoicing :p
However increasing the cost to 250 along with those changes was a tad much, as 1.6 meta evolved in Cyrodiil most of us have seen very few Banners.

And for those of us still using it... well, we are stubborn and ignore many of the other Ultimates at our disposal.

I don't think this is an unreasonable suggestion with the current ulti regen and the almost excessive use of other Ulti's *cough* Meteor *cough* Batswarm (Devouring/Clouding) etc...etc...

It would be a good day if DK across Cyrodiil would return to their roots, and i can only see that happening if Banner cost fell back in line with the rest ;)

(Side note: same goes for Templars Nova btw)
Edited by Bipolo on 13 July 2015 18:01
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  • Baragorath
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    Due to the fact that we have in Cyro more and more macro users (animation canceling experts) I would like to have nerf from reflective scales removed or at least number of projectiles reflected increased to the number enough for solo playing.
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  • Alcast
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    The fact that we see less Banners is because you cant spam them anymore and people actually learned not to stay in them.

    Also, banner is still the strongest ultimate dps wise, i dont see why it should go back to 200Ulti again. It would be completely OP once more.

    They could increase Swarm as its a movable AoE and pretty cheap.

    Meteor is fine too its a small AoE field...just walk out of it



    The most ridiculous overpriced Ulti is still WW Ultimate. 288 Ulti, wtf?
    Edited by Alcast on 14 July 2015 09:50
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  • Kas
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Meteor is fine too its a small AoE field...just walk out of it

    tbh i'd prefer a useless meteor nobody uses over the fall-damage-causing lagfest we currently have. the effect on pve is not too big, either. nova and veil aren't that bad
    Edited by Kas on 14 July 2015 12:16
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  • Lhorion
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    Alcast wrote: »
    The fact that we see less Banners is because you cant spam them anymore and people actually learned not to stay in them.

    Also, banner is still the strongest ultimate dps wise, i dont see why it should go back to 200Ulti again. It would be completely OP once more.

    They could increase Swarm as its a movable AoE and pretty cheap.

    Meteor is fine too its a small AoE field...just walk out of it



    The most ridiculous overpriced Ulti is still WW Ultimate. 288 Ulti, wtf?

    I would agree if this thread was in the PvE forum, but it is in the PvP forum. If you did not know: In Cyrodil here is no boss standing in your ultimate.
  • Paradox
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    Due to the fact that we have in Cyro more and more macro users (animation canceling experts) I would like to have nerf from reflective scales removed or at least number of projectiles reflected increased to the number enough for solo playing.

    Oh please. Really? Macros don't make a bad player good. They just take the effort out of a good player's ability to decimate you. Maybe in one scenario a macro can make a new player kill you easily, but no.

    Reflect isn't even an issue... Just don't cast a hard hitting spell when they have it up.


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  • BigTone
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    Last time I checked, people can still drop banners at will.
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  • Ara_Valleria
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    BigTone wrote: »
    Last time I checked, people can still drop banners at will.
    rg3wRH8.jpg

    *Taken from @Yolokin_Swagonborn

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  • Vis
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    Baragorath wrote: »
    Due to the fact that we have in Cyro more and more macro users (animation canceling experts) I would like to have nerf from reflective scales removed or at least number of projectiles reflected increased to the number enough for solo playing.

    What? All the macro does is ensure the attacks will reflect faster and hurt the attacker more. Your logic does not follow.
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  • Baragorath
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    Vis wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    Due to the fact that we have in Cyro more and more macro users (animation canceling experts) I would like to have nerf from reflective scales removed or at least number of projectiles reflected increased to the number enough for solo playing.

    What? All the macro does is ensure the attacks will reflect faster and hurt the attacker more. Your logic does not follow.

    Dragon Fire Scale is nerfed to hard and it reflects only 4 projectiles. Macro users spam heavy attack + skill + heavy attack + skill - just those 4 projectiles are casted just little over 1 second using animation canceling.

    Thats why this skill should be buffed to eliminate macro users on pvp. @Vis
    Edited by Baragorath on 16 July 2015 13:51
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  • baddabumb16_ESO
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    and after reflect is the macro user down in under 1 sec by self own
    buff the skill to back op dks right? patch 1.5 reroll (one skill to rule all (projektil user))
    Edited by baddabumb16_ESO on 16 July 2015 13:52
  • Baragorath
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    According @ZOS this game @baddabumb16_ESO is against macro users, so YES let macro users die by making macros.
    Edited by Baragorath on 16 July 2015 14:03
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  • Bipolo
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    BigTone wrote: »
    Last time I checked, people can still drop banners at will.
    rg3wRH8.jpg

    *Taken from @Yolokin_Swagonborn

    What a sight, however, was this guy Emp at the time?
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    That multiple banner effect is the same as the multiple meteor effect. It is only possible in times of extreme lag and is mainly a PFX messup as all the banners aren't effective.

    That picture doesn't represent someone with too much ult or too low cost, just a side effect of lag.
  • raistin87
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    Vis wrote: »
    Baragorath wrote: »
    Due to the fact that we have in Cyro more and more macro users (animation canceling experts) I would like to have nerf from reflective scales removed or at least number of projectiles reflected increased to the number enough for solo playing.

    What? All the macro does is ensure the attacks will reflect faster and hurt the attacker more. Your logic does not follow.

    Your post to strong, are you macroing forums as well?
  • ThyIronFist
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    Agreed 100%.

    I haven't even put a skill point into Standard, as I will probably die of old age before I can even manage to drop 1 Standard.
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