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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Either I'm amazing at PvP or people just complain to feel better...

Xqluded
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I see all of these posts about Nightblades and Sorcs being OP.... Now I am no rocket scientist but OP would mean that my V14 Stamina Templars with very little healing and shield utility due to a major stamina regeneration build should be dying to every Sorc, and Nightblades right? Thinking back I can't remember the last 1v1 or 1v2 for that matter against sorcs and nightblades that I've lost.

Templars gets a rep for being the worst PvP class in the game right now....so my honest question is are people just raging because they are being killed by Templars or is the PvP community starting to lack in skill...

Also note, I only have 62 CP so I am no means way ahead. I tend to look for other V14's which is tough to find right now on Xbox.....but none have beaten me yet... can someone clarify some of this.
  • Xqluded
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    Apologies for the bad grammar. Typed that on my phone and auto correct added a few unnecessary S's after a few words. Apologies

    But to add to my statement. I honestly feel like we need a nerd as we are meant to be more healer than anything but unfortunately as with any MMO I am forced to play DD because I like to roam solo most of the time so I need to have a capable build to fight back.

    But our damage, especially jabs are way OP. I feel the damage needs to be reduced a bit. I am happy they are addressing Jesus beam as well. As a stamina Sorc I should not have it on my bar....but right now it's too powerful to not have even with a stamina build. Mix this with Vampirism....long story short I rush....weapon attack to build ultimate....spam jabs two or three times....use ultimate to go invisible and beat you up...your dead before the bats disappear .

    The class is starting to get boring as I rolled it because everyone said it would be hard to beat other players....as you see my rotation, my 6 year old could do it...what's the deal?
    Edited by Xqluded on 8 July 2015 09:26
  • Garion
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    You're right, please just complain to feel better. This forum is little else but a hive of QQ and that has resulted in a lot of nerfs we will see in 2.1.
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  • Xqluded
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    Garion wrote: »
    You're right, please just complain to feel better. This forum is little else but a hive of QQ and that has resulted in a lot of nerfs we will see in 2.1.

    Part of me feels that was sarcastic...I'm serious about my question. The face that I feel my own class should get a small nerf is more than many can say.
  • ToRelax
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    Xqluded wrote: »
    Garion wrote: »
    You're right, please just complain to feel better. This forum is little else but a hive of QQ and that has resulted in a lot of nerfs we will see in 2.1.

    Part of me feels that was sarcastic...I'm serious about my question. The face that I feel my own class should get a small nerf is more than many can say.

    Well I don't think people are "raging because they are being killed by Templars" like you said, I would indeed say Templar is the weakest class right now. That just doesn't mean you can't be good with it.

    But it is also true that many people here complain all day, to feel better or for whatever reason, and yes, they don't want their own class get nerfed.

    There are enough Sorcs preaching the class is done with the coming Bolt Escape nerf. Not to speak of what you'll get to hear when you tell a NB Cloak is OP and needs a nerf... :trollface:
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  • Vis
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    Xqluded wrote: »
    I tend to look for other V14's which is tough to find right now on Xbox.....but none have beaten me yet... can someone clarify some of this.

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  • Xqluded
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Xqluded wrote: »
    Garion wrote: »
    You're right, please just complain to feel better. This forum is little else but a hive of QQ and that has resulted in a lot of nerfs we will see in 2.1.

    Part of me feels that was sarcastic...I'm serious about my question. The face that I feel my own class should get a small nerf is more than many can say.

    Well I don't think people are "raging because they are being killed by Templars" like you said, I would indeed say Templar is the weakest class right now. That just doesn't mean you can't be good with it.

    But it is also true that many people here complain all day, to feel better or for whatever reason, and yes, they don't want their own class get nerfed.

    There are enough Sorcs preaching the class is done with the coming Bolt Escape nerf. Not to speak of what you'll get to hear when you tell a NB Cloak is OP and needs a nerf... :trollface:

    I hear after the update I may have no choice but to switch to magicka because my roll dodge will be useless. That was music to my ears....I'll stay right here with stamina and accept a challenge ;)
  • Xqluded
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    Vis wrote: »
    Xqluded wrote: »
    I tend to look for other V14's which is tough to find right now on Xbox.....but none have beaten me yet... can someone clarify some of this.

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    Nahhh don't need to toot my own horn. The "OP" Sorcs and Nightblades take care of it for me.
  • earth_angel
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    Nobody complained about stamina templars but about magicka templars for solo PvP. Stamina Templar are on par with stamina DK. Stamina Nb is obviously better than those two but doing well on a stamina templar is nothing surprising.

    Magicka templars on the other hand need a group to perform as well as other classes. They don't have the DPS of stamina templar and DPS >> heal in ESO. Plus most of magicka templar strongest abilities are support skills. it is still possible to perform well in solo PvP as a magicka templar but you can feel the difference with your other characters.
    Edited by earth_angel on 8 July 2015 13:05
  • Kas
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    Xqluded wrote: »
    Now I am no rocket scientist but OP would mean that my V14 Stamina Templars with very little healing and shield utility due to a major stamina regeneration build should be dying to every Sorc, and Nightblades right?

    no.

    OP would mean that sorcs and nightblades are significantly stronger. at the same player skill, they would be significantly more successful. This could even mean that they are just as strong as you but can pick their fights and don't get run over as often if more enemies show up than you expected when you attacked.

    Even if they were much stronger in a 1v1, a player doing the right things can still easily kill an OP class when the enemy player doesn't know how to play and capitalize on the OP'ness. In the most extreme case, he's not even using the OP thing (skill/build/etc).

    I have no idea how you drew that conclusion above, but yeah, rocket science is probably not for you, either...
    Edited by Kas on 8 July 2015 13:07
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  • Strider_Roshin
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    It saddened me to read that you're on the Xbox. I've never lost a 1v1 and I usually look for 2-3 people to fight solo. It sounds like you're similar in skill and I was hoping to duel you. If you weren't in EP that is.
  • Vynist
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    I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're on console. Most people on console are terrible at PvP. If you want a challenge, come join us on PC and play with people who have been playing for a year. Biiiiiiiig difference.
  • Xqluded
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    Vynist wrote: »
    I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're on console. Most people on console are terrible at PvP. If you want a challenge, come join us on PC and play with people who have been playing for a year. Biiiiiiiig difference.

    No no. No offense taken. I agree considering I transferred from PC haha.
  • Mr_Nobody
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    Raise your dongers, Templars!

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  • Erock25
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    Is this thread really about a V14 transfer on xbox saying why is everyone else so bad?
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  • Zanen
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    Templar health de-synch bug is OP.

    Templar itself isn't, at least in PVP.

    Every balance patch in every MMO ever people QQ, even people who're getting relative buffs.

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    Ofc you win 1v1's in console the average level is vet 1-3
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  • k2blader
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    Mr_Nobody wrote: »
    Raise your dongers, Templars!

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    Just wanted to say, that ascii (?) art is pro.

    To the OP: I'm really glad you, at least, admit to being able to kill sorcs and NBs. I sincerely thank you.

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  • SirAndy
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    k2blader wrote: »
    Mr_Nobody wrote: »
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    Just wanted to say, that ascii (?) art is pro.
    Ain't ascii, that's unicode ...
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