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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Camouflaged Hunter OP

  • Alcast
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    Erock25 wrote: »

    It doesnt proc too much, it basically works the same as Valkyn on a DK.

    Every target "resets" the proc chance. Usually first proc comes around 10th tick and 2nd proc comes later like 30tick but by then you dead anyway already.

    Also, Passives like burning light, enchantments like fire or poison can proc it.

    So lets say me as Templar I drop Caltrops, Scortched earth and spam steeltornado you will get hit by it every 5s approx as non Vamp. Vamps are dead after 1s if i get a lucky proc.
    Caltrops every 1s 1tick
    Scortched Earth every 1s 2 tick
    steeltornado every 1s 1 tick.

    Thats 5 ticks in 1s
    Edited by Alcast on 7 July 2015 10:16
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  • Eejit1331
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    Wow. No one is going to say that the power is not OP and that there is a major glitch that is being exploited. There is no need to nerf camo. Fix the glitch.
  • kkravaritieb17_ESO
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    Have to agree caltrops+ camo hunter are reatded especially when you fight the zerg and 20+ people throw caltrops on you.
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  • Erock25
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »

    It doesnt proc too much, it basically works the same as Valkyn on a DK.

    Every target "resets" the proc chance. Usually first proc comes around 10th tick and 2nd proc comes later like 30tick but by then you dead anyway already.

    Also, Passives like burning light, enchantments like fire or poison can proc it.

    So lets say me as Templar I drop Caltrops, Scortched earth and spam steeltornado you will get hit by it every 5s approx as non Vamp. Vamps are dead after 1s if i get a lucky proc.
    Caltrops every 1s 1tick
    Scortched Earth every 1s 2 tick
    steeltornado every 1s 1 tick.

    Thats 5 ticks in 1s

    Well my own experience and why I made those topics initially is that as a non-Vamp I was getting camo hunter procs on myself at an alarming rate and they were usually attached to the Snipe + light attack + poison injection opening. For me it had nothing to do with caltrops and had everything to do with what seemed to be a much higher than 4% proc chance. I remember one instance where one person in particular had camo hunter procs on myself 3-4 times in a row showing up on my death recap and again, he was just using bow and no caltrops. I think there is a way to bug it out, personally, but maybe it was just a mighty smack down by the RNG gods.
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  • Trollwut
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    Wasn't there a reason why they didn't remove the "melee hitting" component of caltrops?

    Because I guess that's the only problem here.
  • Jeckll
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    Trollwut wrote: »
    Wasn't there a reason why they didn't remove the "melee hitting" component of caltrops?

    Because I guess that's the only problem here.

    Camo Hunter doesnt only proc on melee hits, right? So that wouldnt fix the issue...
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  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    I'm a vamp and I rarely die from caltrops. I certainly never stay in them long enough to take 34k damage. I hate to say this but L2P?
    :trollin:
  • Alcast
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    Trollwut wrote: »
    Wasn't there a reason why they didn't remove the "melee hitting" component of caltrops?

    Because I guess that's the only problem here.

    Camo Hunter doesnt only proc on melee hits, right? So that wouldnt fix the issue...

    Camo procs on everything, except eruption for some reason, or just stamina stuff?
    Edited by Alcast on 7 July 2015 16:36
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  • Joy_Division
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    I'm a vamp and I rarely die from caltrops. I certainly never stay in them long enough to take 34k damage. I hate to say this but L2P?

    You are right. Next time I will refrain from typing "/sitchair" and endeavor to get out of the caltrops...
  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    I'm a vamp and I rarely die from caltrops. I certainly never stay in them long enough to take 34k damage. I hate to say this but L2P?

    You are right. Next time I will refrain from typing "/sitchair" and endeavor to get out of the caltrops...

    How did you take that much damage then? Forgive me but that's a tick, it's not instant damage. I'm trying to understand how you got hit so hard if you didn't just stand there for a few seconds.
    Edited by eventide03b14a_ESO on 7 July 2015 21:20
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  • AssaultLemming
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    Wow I hadn't really considered that caltrops would proc camo, that's awesome. I mean not awesome for everyone who is now going to die, but awesome for me :smile:
    Edited by AssaultLemming on 8 July 2015 08:13
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