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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
Shield Stacking Suggestion.
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I'm against nerfing damage shields like Hardened Ward, as they are much needed, but I do suggest that whenever you cast a damage shield of any kind, it dissolves the previous damage shield of any kind. So if you cast Healing Ward, and then cast Hardened Ward or Harness Magicka, it will remove Healing Ward instantly.
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Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Not necessary. Two different skills. Two different lines. And, in the case of Harness, it mitigates magicka based damage only.
The only thing this would accomplish would result in higher individual shield values to compensate. The 50% nerf incoming will be more than sufficient.
It will favor a higher health pool vs shield stacking, as there will be no mitigation lost from attributes/enchants/set bonuses.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Uh no. Shield stacking is a highly abused mechanic and needs to either be "fixed" or just straight up removed from the game like all other broken and abused mechanics such as block casting and animation cancel.1 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Shieldstacking/shieldspamming should have some sort of penalty by either cost increase or mana regen penalty.
Just like blocking and dodgerolling is getting.
Hopefully ZOS figures that out soon
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Not necessary. Two different skills. Two different lines. And, in the case of Harness, it mitigates magicka based damage only.
The only thing this would accomplish would result in higher individual shield values to compensate. The 50% nerf incoming will be more than sufficient.
It will favor a higher health pool vs shield stacking, as there will be no mitigation lost from attributes/enchants/set bonuses.
You mean the 35% nerf incoming? As there already is a 15% reduction on damageshields while in Cyro atm.EU | PC0 -
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✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »Shieldstacking/shieldspamming should have some sort of penalty by either cost increase or mana regen penalty.
Just like blocking and dodgerolling is getting.
Hopefully ZOS figures that out soon
Cloak should get the stacking cost increase penalty a thousand times over before casting shields ever will.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Uh no. Shield stacking is a highly abused mechanic and needs to either be "fixed" or just straight up removed from the game like all other broken and abused mechanics such as block casting and animation cancel.
You're cute.Master_Kas wrote: »Merlin13KAGL wrote: »Not necessary. Two different skills. Two different lines. And, in the case of Harness, it mitigates magicka based damage only.
The only thing this would accomplish would result in higher individual shield values to compensate. The 50% nerf incoming will be more than sufficient.
It will favor a higher health pool vs shield stacking, as there will be no mitigation lost from attributes/enchants/set bonuses.
You mean the 35% nerf incoming? As there already is a 15% reduction on damageshields while in Cyro atm.
*41% nerf
Edited by ToRelax on 7 July 2015 15:13DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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BigTone✭✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Uh no. Shield stacking is a highly abused mechanic and needs to either be "fixed" or just straight up removed from the game like all other broken and abused mechanics such as block casting and animation cancel.
Highly abused mechanic is going too far. The shield that healing ward grants is minimal, while harness magicka ONLY gives a magicka shield. If harness gave a shield to physical and magicka, you would have a point. If I put on Harness, healing ward, and hardened ward my entire shield can be taken away by one wrecking blow.Big'Tone-V16 DC Sorc AR31
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Uh no. Shield stacking is a highly abused mechanic and needs to either be "fixed" or just straight up removed from the game like all other broken and abused mechanics such as block casting and animation cancel.
Highly abused mechanic is going too far. The shield that healing ward grants is minimal, while harness magicka ONLY gives a magicka shield. If harness gave a shield to physical and magicka, you would have a point. If I put on Harness, healing ward, and hardened ward my entire shield can be taken away by one wrecking blow.
Reguardless be health magic or what ever you should be limited to 1 shield at a time not 5.0 -
BigTone✭✭✭✭What if you cast a Hardened ward and someone else casts a healing ward on to you? Would that nullify your hardened ward? Having one shield up at a time makes as much sense as only being able to put one DoT on a target at a time.
If someone in the group casts barrier does that cancel all shields for the party? Plus anyone who is keeping 5 shields up at a time is wasting ultimate and magicka and should be an easy kill.Big'Tone-V16 DC Sorc AR31
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Baragorath✭✭✭@BigToneWhat if you cast a Hardened ward and someone else casts a healing ward on to you? Would that nullify your hardened ward? Having one shield up at a time makes as much sense as only being able to put one DoT on a target at a time.
If someone in the group casts barrier does that cancel all shields for the party? Plus anyone who is keeping 5 shields up at a time is wasting ultimate and magicka and should be an easy kill.
How many DoTs can DK apply on shielded Sorc?
ANSWER: 0
What is crit rate on shielded sorc?
ANSWER: 0%
Thank you @ZOS magicka DK is useless against shielded Sorc.
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✭✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »Shieldstacking/shieldspamming should have some sort of penalty by either cost increase or mana regen penalty.
Just like blocking and dodgerolling is getting.
Hopefully ZOS figures that out soon
By your logic this is true for every defensive mechanic so better implement something similar for heals and cloak too?Baragorath wrote: »@BigToneWhat if you cast a Hardened ward and someone else casts a healing ward on to you? Would that nullify your hardened ward? Having one shield up at a time makes as much sense as only being able to put one DoT on a target at a time.
If someone in the group casts barrier does that cancel all shields for the party? Plus anyone who is keeping 5 shields up at a time is wasting ultimate and magicka and should be an easy kill.
How many DoTs can DK apply on shielded Sorc?
ANSWER: 0
What is crit rate on shielded sorc?
ANSWER: 0%
Thank you @ZOS magicka DK is useless against shielded Sorc.
Magica DKs dot my shields just fine. Stamina ones don´t.
When my shields can crit and are 50% stronger i´m fine with you critting on them.Edited by Derra on 7 July 2015 17:09<Noricum>
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Baragorath✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »Shieldstacking/shieldspamming should have some sort of penalty by either cost increase or mana regen penalty.
Just like blocking and dodgerolling is getting.
Hopefully ZOS figures that out soon
By your logic this is true for every defensive mechanic so better implement something similar for heals and cloak too?Baragorath wrote: »@BigToneWhat if you cast a Hardened ward and someone else casts a healing ward on to you? Would that nullify your hardened ward? Having one shield up at a time makes as much sense as only being able to put one DoT on a target at a time.
If someone in the group casts barrier does that cancel all shields for the party? Plus anyone who is keeping 5 shields up at a time is wasting ultimate and magicka and should be an easy kill.
How many DoTs can DK apply on shielded Sorc?
ANSWER: 0
What is crit rate on shielded sorc?
ANSWER: 0%
Thank you @ZOS magicka DK is useless against shielded Sorc.
Magica DKs dot my shields just fine. Stamina ones don´t.
When my shields can crit and are 50% stronger i´m fine with you critting on them.
Why then I have not observed during long fight proc of my Skoria on shielded sorc?Edited by Baragorath on 7 July 2015 22:02Baragorath - Proud Nord - Dragon Knight - Former Emperor - AR40
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ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Baragorath wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »Shieldstacking/shieldspamming should have some sort of penalty by either cost increase or mana regen penalty.
Just like blocking and dodgerolling is getting.
Hopefully ZOS figures that out soon
By your logic this is true for every defensive mechanic so better implement something similar for heals and cloak too?Baragorath wrote: »@BigToneWhat if you cast a Hardened ward and someone else casts a healing ward on to you? Would that nullify your hardened ward? Having one shield up at a time makes as much sense as only being able to put one DoT on a target at a time.
If someone in the group casts barrier does that cancel all shields for the party? Plus anyone who is keeping 5 shields up at a time is wasting ultimate and magicka and should be an easy kill.
How many DoTs can DK apply on shielded Sorc?
ANSWER: 0
What is crit rate on shielded sorc?
ANSWER: 0%
Thank you @ZOS magicka DK is useless against shielded Sorc.
Magica DKs dot my shields just fine. Stamina ones don´t.
When my shields can crit and are 50% stronger i´m fine with you critting on them.
Why then I have not observed during long fight proc of my Skoria on shielded sorc?
Because it's the set that doesn't proc on shields.
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