Best Mage build with most DPS?

cityfanatic · June 2015

Hey guys, I was wondering flat out what class(build in general) does the most damage on average when using a 2H staff and doing strictly magic. Is sorcerer more dominant than DK in that category? Also which race compliments the more dominant class?

PoseidonEvil · June 2015

i personally think they are pretty even as far as dps goes.

BurtFreeman · June 2015

i have a nord health build mage, becouse anyone try out magika and stamina build, but i was curious to se how a sorc health build was.
so the nord give me the best for this experiment, healt regen, all point into health...
the build is preatty simple:
DESTRO: cfrag, endless fury, crushing shot, power surge, shattering prison or streak (depend your style of fight,) greather storm atronach
RESTO: harness magika, boundless storm, dark conversion, healing ward, empowered ward, greather storm atronach

dps come from thief mundus stone, cfrag, power surge, empowered ward and armours (divines, infused): 3 night mother gaze, 3 willow path
i also use 5 warlock

resto and destro are precise damage and restore magika enchanted

this build require dark conversion , becouse of smallest magika pool, but warlock, the skill and passive make their job.
as a sorc, the nord guy is not so easy to kill. is just an experiment, but i'm quite happy with him, may be the best char i have.

Tadhg_Longhouse · June 2015

Currently as fire destruction staves do far more damage than the other staff options, the passives provided to the DK (and Dunmer) makes high DPS easier. Sorcerers bring more sustained DPS from passives and potential high damage from crystal frags, but they rely on chance to achieve this.

Both ultimately use abilities from the destruction staff tree so at the end of the day your class isn't so important.

Morvul · June 2015

talking strictly magicka based DPS, nothing beats a DK. nothing even comes close.
Sorc is second best (again, only considering magicka based DPS) and has the advantage of pure-ranged DPS options and high delayed-type burst damage (which is very strong in PvP, but kind of pointless in PvE)

but in general, stamina based DPS is significantly higher than magicka based DPS, with only the magicka DK even playing in the same league as stamina builds

Skiserony · June 2015

Dunmer DK would do most now, but I see other classes are trying to chase him now.

DirtySmeegs33 · June 2015

Dummer DK because of fire buffs. End of discussion.

Lynx7386 · June 2015

cityfanatic wrote: »

Hey guys, I was wondering flat out what class(build in general) does the most damage on average when using a 2H staff and doing strictly magic. Is sorcerer more dominant than DK in that category? Also which race compliments the more dominant class?

I'd honestly say templar or nightblade for a pure magicka damage build. Both have some tools at long range that sorcerors and dragonknights lack, and both can heal without using a restoration staff (at least to some minor degree, not enough for main healing but enough to keep you alive).

Templars are the only class in the game with a ranged execution ability via radiant destruction, and it is exceptionally powerful. They've got ranged healing debuffs with dark flare, and ranged damage over time with sunfire. This combines well with the damage over time from destructive reach and a fire staff.

Shaloran · June 2015

Morvul wrote: »

talking strictly magicka based DPS, nothing beats a DK. nothing even comes close.
Sorc is second best (again, only considering magicka based DPS) and has the advantage of pure-ranged DPS options and high delayed-type burst damage (which is very strong in PvP, but kind of pointless in PvE)

but in general, stamina based DPS is significantly higher than magicka based DPS, with only the magicka DK even playing in the same league as stamina builds

I disagree. The passive trees in light armour allow magic dps to get over on stamina easily.

Flaminir · June 2015

Lynx7386 wrote: »

cityfanatic wrote: »

Hey guys, I was wondering flat out what class(build in general) does the most damage on average when using a 2H staff and doing strictly magic. Is sorcerer more dominant than DK in that category? Also which race compliments the more dominant class?

I'd honestly say templar or nightblade for a pure magicka damage build. Both have some tools at long range that sorcerors and dragonknights lack, and both can heal without using a restoration staff (at least to some minor degree, not enough for main healing but enough to keep you alive).

Templars are the only class in the game with a ranged execution ability via radiant destruction, and it is exceptionally powerful. They've got ranged healing debuffs with dark flare, and ranged damage over time with sunfire. This combines well with the damage over time from destructive reach and a fire staff.

SO much misinformation here I'm afraid....

Templar Magicka DPS is well known to be the bottom of the pile... by quite some way!

DK's have highest magicka DPS by a mile (Though have to be a bit closer range to get their highest dps), Templars are bottom by a mile... and Sorc's/NB's are in the middle. Sorcs probably a little ahead.

Templars are not the only class with a ranged execute. Sorc's have mages wrath which has a 28meter range. NB's execute can also be used up to 15m away with a certain morph.

Yes Sorc's don't have a heal... but they have a shield... & the shield is just as good as a heal & goes for about 14k at end game. Not many heals that hit for that much! & no resto staff required

To the OP.... race is very easy for the top 2..... Dunmer for a DK, & Altmer for a Sorc. Both have passives that synergise with the classes & increase their dps (EG Dunmer fire damage for a DK, & Altmer elemental damage which increases shock for Sorc's.)

Flaminir · June 2015

Shaloran wrote: »

Morvul wrote: »

talking strictly magicka based DPS, nothing beats a DK. nothing even comes close.
Sorc is second best (again, only considering magicka based DPS) and has the advantage of pure-ranged DPS options and high delayed-type burst damage (which is very strong in PvP, but kind of pointless in PvE)

but in general, stamina based DPS is significantly higher than magicka based DPS, with only the magicka DK even playing in the same league as stamina builds

I disagree. The passive trees in light armour allow magic dps to get over on stamina easily.

In the nicest way possible... I'm afraid Morvul is totally correct. At present at end game Stamina DPS is higher than Magicka... and again, only DK's are consistently close to this from the magicka builds.

It's not really anything specific to the light armor passives either, you need to look at the big picture, a few passives won't tell you whats higher dps, there are too many variables for that.... its the whole range of things from the individual skills themselves, to the gear, the passives, etc.

Stamina DPS is also quite a lot easier to achieve. (Feel free to run a search on 'Wrecking Blow' if you want to find out more! lol).