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Molten Weapons
Molten Weapons is really weak, at least with staffs:
To fix this, molten weapons should work as advertised (buffing all heavy attacks) and should have the benefits of both morphs as soon as you get it. There's not reason we should have to morph the ability to make it an execute, every other execute in the game is an execute pre-morphed. The ability should also either be a sustained buff, or refresh every time you use a heavy attack, unmorphed.
The first morph should be a raw damage bonus. The other morph should grant the player minor mending for a few seconds, after using a heavy attack.
- The ability claims to buff all heavy attacks, but only works on fully charged heavy attacks.
- The damage bonus is so low that it's not worth using a fully charged heavy attack.
- Even with the execute morph, desto staff abilities do more damage against low health targets than molten armaments.
- Molten Armaments only lasts long enough for≤ 3 heavy attacks, depending on if you use abilities as well as heavy attacking.
To fix this, molten weapons should work as advertised (buffing all heavy attacks) and should have the benefits of both morphs as soon as you get it. There's not reason we should have to morph the ability to make it an execute, every other execute in the game is an execute pre-morphed. The ability should also either be a sustained buff, or refresh every time you use a heavy attack, unmorphed.
The first morph should be a raw damage bonus. The other morph should grant the player minor mending for a few seconds, after using a heavy attack.
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*spits coffee on screen*Earthwardzilvox_ESO wrote: »Molten Weapons is really weak, at least with staffs:
This is just misinformation. It scales with medium attacks (not fully charged HAs)- The ability claims to buff all heavy attacks, but only works on fully charged heavy attacks.
The execute damage begins scaling at enemies 50% HP and increases as the HP goes down. By the time a Boss gets to 20% I get crits for 30kEarthwardzilvox_ESO wrote: »[*] The damage bonus is so low that it's not worth using a fully charged heavy attack.
[*] Even with the execute morph, desto staff abilities do more damage against low health targets than molten armaments.
If you were actually using medium attacks and weaving skills between you see this skills real potential. However I agree that the timer should be extended. BUFF molten armaments!Earthwardzilvox_ESO wrote: »[*] Molten Armaments only lasts long enough for≤ 3 heavy attacks, depending on if you use abilities as well as heavy attacking.
Edited by Cuyler on 12 June 2015 14:50Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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I think the whole thing needs to be reworked. We are already a heavy dot maintenance class and this skill requires a lot of refreshing. It's an execute that takes 1 gcd and a full heavy attack charge before it does it's damage. By that time the person you are trying to kill will have healed or D'd up. They need to give us a less complicated execute. It is nice that you can cast it from stealth though.
The other problem is with igneous weapons. It cannot effectively be used without an addon, which sucks for console users.
Its an awkward and cumbersome skill that seems designed on a board room table rather than inside the game. It needs a lot of refinement.Edited by Armitas on 12 June 2015 16:50Retired.
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Wrong. It scales from 50% HP and with medium attacks. please stop spewing this garbage. And that "test" you linked is one of the worst tests I've seen. He doesn't even realize that inferno staffs are 15% inc damage. Finally it's from MarchBug: Molten Weapon with Staffs
I think the whole thing needs to be reworked. We are already a heavy dot maintenance class and this skill requires a lot of refreshing. It's an execute that takes 1 gcd and a full heavy attack charge before it does it's damage. By that time the person you are trying to kill will have healed or D'd up. They need to give us a less complicated execute. It is nice that you can cast it from stealth though.
The other problem is with igneous weapons. It cannot effectively be used without an addon, which sucks for console users.
Pro tip: MA works just fine for me.
Edited by Cuyler on 12 June 2015 16:55Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Wrong. It scales from 50% HP and with medium attacks. please stop spewing this garbage. And that "test" you linked is one of the worst tests I've seen. He doesn't even realize that inferno staffs are 15% inc damage. Finally it's from MarchBug: Molten Weapon with Staffs
I think the whole thing needs to be reworked. We are already a heavy dot maintenance class and this skill requires a lot of refreshing. It's an execute that takes 1 gcd and a full heavy attack charge before it does it's damage. By that time the person you are trying to kill will have healed or D'd up. They need to give us a less complicated execute. It is nice that you can cast it from stealth though.
The other problem is with igneous weapons. It cannot effectively be used without an addon, which sucks for console users.
I didn't say it didn't work with medium attacks, you don't get your full advantage from casting it at half heavies.
Doesn't matter how old it is, there are bugs in this game that still exist from release.
Chill out dude.Edited by Armitas on 12 June 2015 17:11Retired.
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QRC -"It's an execute that takes [snip] a full heavy attack charge before it does it's damage."
Wrong. It scales from 50% HP and with medium attacks. please stop spewing this garbage. And that "test" you linked is one of the worst tests I've seen. He doesn't even realize that inferno staffs are 15% inc damage. Finally it's from MarchBug: Molten Weapon with Staffs
I think the whole thing needs to be reworked. We are already a heavy dot maintenance class and this skill requires a lot of refreshing. It's an execute that takes 1 gcd and a full heavy attack charge before it does it's damage. By that time the person you are trying to kill will have healed or D'd up. They need to give us a less complicated execute. It is nice that you can cast it from stealth though.
The other problem is with igneous weapons. It cannot effectively be used without an addon, which sucks for console users.
I didn't say it didn't work with medium attacks,
wrong again. actually the full benefit is the time saved casting MAs, slightly lower damage per cast as HA but more casts therefore MORE dps.you don't get your full advantage from casting it at half heavies.Chill out dude.
im just over here like, I got MA and loving it. I can see your doing something different that causing you to not see results is all.
Edited by Cuyler on 12 June 2015 17:38Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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QRC -"It's an execute that takes [snip] a full heavy attack charge before it does it's damage."
Wrong. It scales from 50% HP and with medium attacks. please stop spewing this garbage. And that "test" you linked is one of the worst tests I've seen. He doesn't even realize that inferno staffs are 15% inc damage. Finally it's from MarchBug: Molten Weapon with Staffs
I think the whole thing needs to be reworked. We are already a heavy dot maintenance class and this skill requires a lot of refreshing. It's an execute that takes 1 gcd and a full heavy attack charge before it does it's damage. By that time the person you are trying to kill will have healed or D'd up. They need to give us a less complicated execute. It is nice that you can cast it from stealth though.
The other problem is with igneous weapons. It cannot effectively be used without an addon, which sucks for console users.
I didn't say it didn't work with medium attacks,
wrong again. actually the full benefit is the time saved casting MAs, slightly lower damage per cast as HA but more casts therefore MORE dps.you don't get your full advantage from casting it at half heavies.Chill out dude. im just over here like, I got MA and loving it. I can see your doing something wrong is all.
It's damage is all of it's damage not half it's damage. That is why I didn't use words like ONLY. When you short a heavy attack you lose damage because you wasted a GCD on a non damager to buff your next weave which you did not optimize. Hence it doesn't "do it's damage." Had I known some guy would freak out on the forums I would have been more explicit. In the context of PvP, which my comment was in, you need to actually execute someone when they are at low health not wind up and let them heal and D up. You need an actual finisher, 1 button done, not a series of events. That is why it is sub par to actual executes.
See above, with the case of MA you can get more damage from the execute portion, but only while lowering your heavy attack bonus by trying to get more in. Losing dps now, to get more later is contrary to what an execute should be.
No you're here raging on the forums saying I'm spewing garbage rather than asking for clarification.Edited by Armitas on 12 June 2015 18:06Retired.
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✭ok thanks for clarifying.
Written text is impossible to read "in between the lines" due to a lack of vocal inflections. From what you wrote it was near impossible to deduct these ideas and simply came off as backing up false information that the OP had stated, which is the direction the discussion was heading and I assumed you were referring to.
I apologize if my "spewing garbage" terminology has struck a nerve with you, I probably could of said "providing misinformation" to soften it up a little bit but I'd bet youd still think I was "raging" lol.Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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✭✭✭✭ok thanks for clarifying.
Written text is impossible to read "in between the lines" due to a lack of vocal inflections. From what you wrote it was near impossible to deduct these ideas and simply came off as backing up false information that the OP had stated, which is the direction the discussion was heading and I assumed you were referring to.
I apologize if my "spewing garbage" terminology has struck a nerve with you, I probably could of said "providing misinformation" to soften it up a little bit but I'd bet youd still think I was "raging" lol.
Agree. NP, no foul. Bro hug inc.Retired.
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