Elemental Drain + Elemental Ring or Solar Barrage ?

kylerjalen · June 2015

Quick question,
does Elemental Drain stack with Solar Barrage?
I already unlocked all three mentioned but to me, Elemental Ring (from the destruction staff line) and Solar Barrage are similar/redundant and would like to remove one of the skills.
Which would work/make more sense?

ThatHappyCat · June 2015

Elemental Drain's spell resistance debuffs works with all spells, but the magicka return only works with elemental damage. Solar Barrage is magic damage.

In terms of raw damage Solar Barrage is stronger and has a larger AoE. Elemental Ring has the benefit of applying a DoT that can proc effects such as Valkyn Skoria however.

PhatGrimReaper · June 2015

Solar barrage grants you Empower... next attack does 20% additional damage.... Solar -> Ele Ring -> Solar -> Ele Ring?

Love_Chunks · June 2015

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

Solar barrage grants you Empower... next attack does 20% additional damage.... Solar -> Ele Ring -> Solar -> Ele Ring?

I suggested that to a magicka temp dps and they said that there was too much of a delay b/t attacks. I never actually tested it out myself though.

ThatHappyCat · June 2015

Solar Barrage's Empower works on itself, so you're better off just spamming Solar Barrage if you're going to use it.

kylerjalen · June 2015

ThatHappyCat wrote: »

Solar Barrage's Empower works on itself, so you're better off just spamming Solar Barrage if you're going to use it.

Thank you. I guess I'm just going to keep both SB and ER and alternate spamming both

Estelee · June 2015

You DO NOT want Solar Barrage over Dark Flair. Dark flair is one of the most powerful single target skills in the game ( I pull 12-14k DPS//S with it, it crits for 22k )
You want to use blazing spear for AoE Dot and Puncturing Sweep for AOE DPS as a Templar. Takes more positioning but since it has 4 hits ( + one each second from blazing spear tick) and each one of those hits has a 25% chance to proc Burning Light, it does much more aoe DPS in addition to healing yourself for 40% of damage done. Also you want to use duel wielding for super high spell damage. :]

P.S Solar Barrage has a 1 second global cooldown which nowhere near makes up for the 20% boost on damage. Spamming Elemental Ring with the dot that it gives is much stronger.

Imdrefan · June 2015

Estelee wrote: »

You DO NOT want Solar Barrage over Dark Flair. Dark flair is one of the most powerful single target skills in the game ( I pull 12-14k DPS//S with it, it crits for 22k )
You want to use blazing spear for AoE Dot and Puncturing Sweep for AOE DPS as a Templar. Takes more positioning but since it has 4 hits ( + one each second from blazing spear tick) and each one of those hits has a 25% chance to proc Burning Light, it does much more aoe DPS in addition to healing yourself for 40% of damage done. Also you want to use duel wielding for super high spell damage. :]

P.S Solar Barrage has a 1 second global cooldown which nowhere near makes up for the 20% boost on damage. Spamming Elemental Ring with the dot that it gives is much stronger.

Dark Flare has cast time and travel time whichall together makes it a 4-5 second time frame from cast to hit, which makes it sub optimal. Also, when you have to stop casting to move quickly, you are loosing a lot of dps that a ranged person with instant casts is going to be still dpsing.

Something to take into consideration also is, solar barrage being magic damage ( and depending on the rest of your build) enables you to dump all your points in Thaumaturge beefing up your puncturing sweep, (correct me if wrong haven't tested) burning light, magicka detonation, and radiant oppression.

kylerjalen · June 2015

Estelee wrote: »

You DO NOT want Solar Barrage over Dark Flair. Dark flair is one of the most powerful single target skills in the game ( I pull 12-14k DPS//S with it, it crits for 22k )
You want to use blazing spear for AoE Dot and Puncturing Sweep for AOE DPS as a Templar. Takes more positioning but since it has 4 hits ( + one each second from blazing spear tick) and each one of those hits has a 25% chance to proc Burning Light, it does much more aoe DPS in addition to healing yourself for 40% of damage done. Also you want to use duel wielding for super high spell damage. :]

P.S Solar Barrage has a 1 second global cooldown which nowhere near makes up for the 20% boost on damage. Spamming Elemental Ring with the dot that it gives is much stronger.

This is WAY true. I was experimenting today and that half/one second cooldown irritated the heck out of me.
I got rid of it and did exactly what you stated, replaced it with Blazing Spear and added Puncturing Sweep and combining that with Elemental Ring, was able to survive muuuuuch better. Thanks for the tips!