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Noob questions about NB, magicka and class skills

Hamztein
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Hello! A few question to make my build decisions...

1. Class skills damage scales with magicka? (More max magicka, more dmg)
2. Weapon skills damage scale with stamina? (More max stamina, more dmg)
3. DW NB is viable with magicka build? (I know i must avoid weapon skills and stamina morphs)
4. Best races for a dual wield assassin? (Except kajiit)

Thanks!
  • Yakidafi
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    1. yes
    2. yes
    3. dw increase both wp dmg and spell dmg
    4. dunno http://teso.mmorpg-life.com/eso-skill-calculator/nightblade/ can check racial passives
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  • LegacyDM
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    Hamztein wrote: »
    Hello! A few question to make my build decisions...

    1. Class skills damage scales with magicka? (More max magicka, more dmg)
    2. Weapon skills damage scale with stamina? (More max stamina, more dmg)
    3. DW NB is viable with magicka build? (I know i must avoid weapon skills and stamina morphs)
    4. Best races for a dual wield assassin? (Except kajiit)

    Thanks!

    If your heart is set on a DW magicka build than an altmer is probably your best best. If your thinking of vamp than dunmer would be best. I prefer bosmer for the stealth detection and sneak attack bonus, but lacks the magicka boost you get from altmer which can make things difficult at times.

    DW magicka is viable but lacks sustainable dps. It's all about the burst. Get in get out and gank people from horseback. Get ready to be disappointed. You can't dodge roll like a stamina build and you will be spamming dark cloak to get out of combat and be plagued with the problems associated with cloak. Many people get frustrated.
    Edited by LegacyDM on 3 June 2015 01:20
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  • AssaultLemming
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    I just re rolled my magicka nb as stam and now I'm loving a character that I had come to hate. Best thing to do if you want to dual wield is accept that you should be a stamina build and go with that. I feel exactly like a sneaky assassin or a sniper style archer and it feels awesome. Nb magicka burst dps is just too low to be competitive in PvP.
  • kylerjalen
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    1. Yup
    2. Yep
    3. Only in pre-veteran levels
    4. It depends on whether you want to focus on magicka or stamina. For magicka, you should roll a Breton/Dunmer/Altmer. For stamina, nothing beats a Redguard/Bosmer, or Imperial.

    I rolled a Nightblade because I wanted to try my hand at a magicka build that can sapsapsap mobs. However, the two best abilities in dual wield (imo) rapid strikes and steel tornado, require stamina. Lots and lots and lots of stamina. Trying to run a magicka based NB but with stamina ability requirements is going to be barely passable at the pre veteran level. Once you get to Cadwell's Silver/Gold you just might have to respec and make a choice. This is what happened to me. I tried doing exactly what you are trying to do. I ran mostly magicka class-based abilities with only two that required stamina which were dual wield abilities and even then I was struggling. The moment I chose to center everything around stamina with magicka abilities for support, everything became muuuuch better. I could throw up Relentless Focus, and start Double Take then run into a mob. Start spamming the crap out of steel tornado and occasionally activate Sap Essence. With Flawless Dawnbreaker slotted as the Ultimate, I can pretty much rip through a crowd of six or more enemies and just let the bodies hit the floor.
  • Hamztein
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    I saw the Specter build in a video and the guy seems pretty happy with the magicka build...

    If i go for stamina, what the best skills?
    Ambush, surprise attack, tornado, what else?

    In a stamina build, what magicka skills should i use?
  • Stannum
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    Hamztein wrote: »
    Hello! A few question to make my build decisions...

    1. Class skills damage scales with magicka? (More max magicka, more dmg)
    2. Weapon skills damage scale with stamina? (More max stamina, more dmg)
    3. DW NB is viable with magicka build? (I know i must avoid weapon skills and stamina morphs)
    4. Best races for a dual wield assassin? (Except kajiit)

    Thanks!
    1. Only if they cost magika, some class skills morphs don't (e.g. ambush. killer's blade e.t.c).
    2. Only if they cost stamina, staves are weapon skills but cost magika.
    3. Yes, but not very optimal*
    4. Redguard for stamina builds, Breton for magika.


    *If you're going to make magika DW build the only point you'll get from DW - more spell power (if they will not fix that bug/feature), you'll get somewhat more DPS but stamina build will grant you more burst DPS anyway. So if you want to maximize burst DPS, stamina builds are more optimal for NB. And magika builds are more tanky/survival. So for magika NB build good choice is 1h&sh.
  • Stannum
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    ... Nb magicka burst dps is just too low to be competitive in PvP.
    Magika NB should play tank role in PvP. So at least 5 heavy, 1h&b, sap essence and they are very good in assault groups.

  • AssaultLemming
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    ... Nb magicka burst dps is just too low to be competitive in PvP.
    Magika NB should play tank role in PvP. So at least 5 heavy, 1h&b, sap essence and they are very good in assault groups.

    Agreed, sap tank is still a viable build if you like that sort of thing. My light armour nb used to be a beast with sap.
  • AssaultLemming
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    Hamztein wrote: »
    I saw the Specter build in a video and the guy seems pretty happy with the magicka build...

    If i go for stamina, what the best skills?
    Ambush, surprise attack, tornado, what else?

    In a stamina build, what magicka skills should i use?

    Depends if you are planning on 2h or bow, but I would say...

    Wrecking blow, rally

    Snipe, venom arrow

    Class skills: grim focus, Mark target, aspect of terror. Perhaps the stamina morph of sap essence.

    Dark cloak.
  • Johngo0036
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    Hi,
    Here is my 10 cents worth,

    I have a dual wield Magicka bld NB,
    HOWEVER
    I don's use ANY dualwield skills that i use,

    I have 2 swords purely for the increased Spell damage it gives me.
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