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Remove the exploits or Remove the exploiters from the game!

aarundel
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Zen is constantly reconfiguring things in PvE but nothing in PvP. First of all was it a game mechanics so that you can mass streak to enter keeps and outposts form a leveled invironment? And DK using extanded chains to target NPCs in outposts to enter? Ambush to follow a player into a keep?
Well I think this kinds of exploits and other like a Sorc using multiple skills from different classes...should be banned from the game with the exploiters.
  • Ourorboros
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    Can't blame players for using what is given them. It's up to ZOS to fix issues. If they don't, see first sentence.

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  • halfbadger
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    aarundel wrote: »
    like a Sorc using multiple skills from different classes

    What are you on about?
  • AngersRevenge
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    I like the idea of using the current game mechanics to infiltrate an enemy strong hold. If I can ambush someone on the keep wall then why not.
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  • Shunravi
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    halfbadger wrote: »
    aarundel wrote: »
    like a Sorc using multiple skills from different classes

    What are you on about?

    I'm overwhelmingly curious, this needs an answer.
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  • newtinmpls
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    aarundel wrote: »
    Well I think this kinds of exploits and other like a Sorc using multiple skills from different classes...should be banned from the game with the exploiters.

    Say what?

    I came to ES via Morrowind, where there are no classes - so I dislike the class system. But even so - a sorc can't use the "class" abilities of another class.

    What are you talking about?
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  • Valymer
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    I remember a thread where a death recap showed a DK using a skill from another class. But the consensus was that it was a reflected spell or something, and the death recap was just ascribing it to the wrong character.
  • Shunravi
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    Valymer wrote: »
    I remember a thread where a death recap showed a DK using a skill from another class. But the consensus was that it was a reflected spell or something, and the death recap was just ascribing it to the wrong character.

    That's how flapity flap works. Once reflected, it belongs to the one who reflected.
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  • Valymer
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Valymer wrote: »
    I remember a thread where a death recap showed a DK using a skill from another class. But the consensus was that it was a reflected spell or something, and the death recap was just ascribing it to the wrong character.

    That's how flapity flap works. Once reflected, it belongs to the one who reflected.

    So by extension, the same thing could happen for any class using Defensive Posture, no?
  • Bouvin
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    halfbadger wrote: »
    aarundel wrote: »
    like a Sorc using multiple skills from different classes

    What are you on about?

    I thought I was chasing a nightblade using shadow cloak the other day.

    To my surprise it was a DK.

    Potions can emulate some class abilities (invisibility) and often confuse people thinking someone is using abilities from multiple classes.
  • Yonkit
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    newtinmpls wrote: »
    aarundel wrote: »
    Well I think this kinds of exploits and other like a Sorc using multiple skills from different classes...should be banned from the game with the exploiters.

    Say what?

    I came to ES via Morrowind, where there are no classes - so I dislike the class system. But even so - a sorc can't use the "class" abilities of another class.

    What are you talking about?

    Wait til my NB hits you with whip, then you'll see how cross-class play really works. I'll be dropping banners and shadow cloaking for days.
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  • yodased
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    My vr7 sorc uses DK skills, but its only because i'm drunk and think I'm playing my DK.

    does that count?
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  • kaithuzar
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    Sorc hacking is annoying though. I think everyone knows they can access parts of the game that were NOT intended. It's the age old argument of "if someone leaves their door unlocked does it give you the right to walk in/steal stuff".
    "Using what they've given us, in what can be called an inappropriate manner."...I might as well make that argument when I start auditing servers & code, "you see it was CLEAR that function was meant to give me root access!"
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  • Sensesfail13
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    *shrug* wouldnt be such a big problem if they didnt "fix" the skills that could be used to enter keeps in the first place. What they need to do is make a barrier so that enemy players cant enter a keep except through a breach go to chain yourself up??? Oh well bam invisible wall. Or just allow all out war letting players use these skills to enter keeps the way that warfare was intended but whatever. Who cares if a couple of exploiters enter a keep... you cant kill them... with an entire keep full of guards???
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  • Zargorius
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    Well if they actually fixed the bugs like the one with vampire's Mist Form being activated and deactivated quickly and giving you a permanent 75% mitigaion there would be less complains about the issues.
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  • Saint_JiubB14_ESO
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    Zargorius wrote: »
    Well if they actually fixed the bugs like the one with vampire's Mist Form being activated and deactivated quickly and giving you a permanent 75% mitigaion there would be less complains about the issues.

    Most of the complaints recently are about exploiting into keeps, outposts, and behind scroll gates.
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  • Lava_Croft
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    halfbadger wrote: »
    aarundel wrote: »
    like a Sorc using multiple skills from different classes

    What are you on about?
    I think he got killed by reflected attacks...
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