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Valkyn/Nerienth set scale only off spellcrit and not of the higher crit rate.

Alcast
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Why is it that Valkyn and Nerienth only scale of Spelldmg/Spellcrit and not Weapon dmg/crit? It is kinda a disadvantage for Stamina DDs. Please fix it.

Check out the pic, my Weap crit is around 55% and as you can see the crit rate of Nerienth is only 20%.
Also, I do like 2-4k less dmg as stamina build compared to a magicka build per hit because it scales only of spelldmg.

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Edited by Alcast on 15 April 2015 20:36
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  • nalimoleb14_ESO
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    Good point. I hear Valkyn Skoria only scales off of spell damage as well, and not weapon damage - not sure if that's true. I kind of like the setup where it scales off of your more powerful resource pool, hopefully that is something that can be done.
  • Alcast
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    Good point. I hear Valkyn Skoria only scales off of spell damage as well, and not weapon damage - not sure if that's true. I kind of like the setup where it scales off of your more powerful resource pool, hopefully that is something that can be done.

    Isnt Valkyn and Nerienth doing same dmg no matter how many Spelldmg you have?

    THough I noticed that too on nerienth, it does less dmg than the tooltip says, but I am not sure if its bc enemies have armor :/
    Edited by Alcast on 15 April 2015 13:42
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  • Alcast
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    Good point. I hear Valkyn Skoria only scales off of spell damage as well, and not weapon damage - not sure if that's true. I kind of like the setup where it scales off of your more powerful resource pool, hopefully that is something that can be done.

    Just tested it and it does scale of spelldamage and spellcrit. I deal like 4k less with skoria than a magicka build per hit :/

    I sent a bugreport and and I hope they gonna fix it soon :/

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    Edited by Alcast on 15 April 2015 20:35
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  • nalimoleb14_ESO
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Good point. I hear Valkyn Skoria only scales off of spell damage as well, and not weapon damage - not sure if that's true. I kind of like the setup where it scales off of your more powerful resource pool, hopefully that is something that can be done.

    Just tested it and it does scale of spelldamage and spellcrit. I deal like 4k less with skoria than a magicka build per hit :/

    I sent a bugreport and and I hope they gonna fix it soon :/

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Unbelievable. I hope they fix that as well, that screws over any stamina build that uses the skoria set. I really hope they do something about that. Thanks for testing it!
  • Alcast
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    I really would like an answer to this problem @ZOS_GinaBruno Is it intentional or should it scale of the higher stat?
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  • Alcast
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    Alcast wrote: »
    I really would like an answer to this problem @ZOS_GinaBruno Is it intentional or should it scale of the higher stat?

    Still waiting
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  • Alcast
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I will not stop asking till I have an answer on this sry :/

    Is it supposed to be scaled of spelldmg and spellcrit only or should it scale of the higher stat?
    Edited by Alcast on 5 May 2015 09:31
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  • byrom101b16_ESO
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    If sets with stamina skill weapon-delivered damage bonuses (such as poison, if it exists) also don't scale off magicka, then this is balanced is it not?

    If however this is an exception, it needs to be addressed.

    In my personal opinion however, these particular sets should be resource-neutral in terms of performance but with appropriate rebalancing for the stamina-dominant dps regime we currently have so everyone gets the same bang for their buck.
    Edited by byrom101b16_ESO on 5 May 2015 09:44
  • asneakybanana
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Good point. I hear Valkyn Skoria only scales off of spell damage as well, and not weapon damage - not sure if that's true. I kind of like the setup where it scales off of your more powerful resource pool, hopefully that is something that can be done.

    Isnt Valkyn and Nerienth doing same dmg no matter how many Spelldmg you have?

    THough I noticed that too on nerienth, it does less dmg than the tooltip says, but I am not sure if its bc enemies have armor :/

    When I run nerienth it does less than the tooltip states on my magicka build. Im pretty sure that the only way to get them to go higher is boosting magic damage or fire damage.
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  • Alcast
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Good point. I hear Valkyn Skoria only scales off of spell damage as well, and not weapon damage - not sure if that's true. I kind of like the setup where it scales off of your more powerful resource pool, hopefully that is something that can be done.

    Isnt Valkyn and Nerienth doing same dmg no matter how many Spelldmg you have?

    THough I noticed that too on nerienth, it does less dmg than the tooltip says, but I am not sure if its bc enemies have armor :/

    When I run nerienth it does less than the tooltip states on my magicka build. Im pretty sure that the only way to get them to go higher is boosting magic damage or fire damage.

    Yes, the more spelldmg and spellcrit you have the more dmg and the more crits you will do. But it should also count same for weap dmg and weap crit but doesnt do so atm. Kinda favoring Magicka builds only to use those awesome set pieces.
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  • EgoRush
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    Hahaha @Alcast spamming @ZOS_GinaBruno - still no response I assume?

    I can verify I tested this and the meteors did more damage on crit with the Major Sorcery buff up versus having no Major Sorcery. So Valkyn scales off spell damage and spell critical for sure. It doesn't do a set amount of damage as the tooltip alludes.

    IMO they should either be like ultimates and scale off your strongest stat or they should have a set damage irrespective of spell/weapon damage. If they can code this for ultimates then surely they can pop this into the Undaunted sets?
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  • Snit
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    Did this change today? There's a patch note about armor sets now scaling off your best attributes, just like ultimates.

    EDIT: Evidently, it will now use your best critical strike chance, at least.

    Edited by Snit on 11 May 2015 15:41
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  • Alcast
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    All item sets now scale off your character’s highest stats, just like Ultimate abilities.

    niceeeeee

    So I will test out how much it affects my dps tmr when server is updated.
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