Sorcerer Healer - What resto skills are best?

doubleagamingb14_ESO · May 2015

Hey guys I'm a sorcerer and I usually run a destruction/resto staff combo in group dungeons and fill the "Healer" role, and I was wondering what resto skills you think are the best. My current healer bar is something like this
| 1. Steadfast Ward | 2. Grand Healing | 3.Regeneration | 4. Lightning Splash | 5. Lightning Form |

I take a couple Storm Calling skills for some extra survivability/aoe damage, but I'm curious if I should even bother. Also, are Force Siphon and Blessing of Protection worth using?

Let me know what you guys think, opinions, recommendations, etc.,

RoyJade · May 2015

When I switch from dps to pseudo-healer, I use this bar :
Illustrious healing (or the other morph) - mutagen - healing ward - inner light - bound aegis
Most of the time, I use Illustrious healing.

Artemiisia · May 2015

use inner light on your bar instead of lightning form, for crit heals, as sorc healer you dont really need survivability

if you cant heal yourself, u might need to spam healing springs more

get combat prayer as well instead of lightning splash, heals and gives the other dps a dps buff

bloodenragedb14_ESO · May 2015

Ill just go over how i use the skills, ill be naming the morphs i know and use

Healing ward, This is best used after a spell like healing springs, it will target the member of your party that is in need of it most. the healing ward morph will give a initial heal to the one affected, as well as whatever is left over of the shield after it disperses.

Healing springs. the extra boost in magicka gotten from healing a group is nice, and it is easily spammed, as such its a good idea to throw a spring or two down before using any other spell

Combat prayer. This skill is a great immediate heal and slight buff, but it uses alot of magicka, as such it should be saved to heal those either blocking, or under a ward or damage shield

Mutegen, a great spell to use on those under wards or damage shields, low magicka cost so easy to buff entire party with just a few extra casts

doubleagamingb14_ESO · May 2015

Artemiisia wrote: »

use inner light on your bar instead of lightning form, for crit heals, as sorc healer you dont really need survivability

No idea you could crit heal... will definitely put inner light on that bar.
I'll also try out the combat prayer because i already have blessing of protection at rank 4 and ready to morph. Though Bound Aegis sounds pretty good for the extra magicka and resistance bonus,

Artemiisia · May 2015

with the right build you wont be needing extra mag as healing sorc, I have 30k mag as vr14 with my build, dont know your level, so thats why I writing mine so u can compare.

doubleagamingb14_ESO · May 2015

Yeah I'm vr1 atm, I have about 15k magicka.

Joy_Division · May 2015

Healing Springs.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · May 2015

doubleagamingb14_ESO wrote: »

Hey guys I'm a sorcerer and I usually run a destruction/resto staff combo in group dungeons and fill the "Healer" role, and I was wondering what resto skills you think are the best. My current healer bar is something like this
| 1. Steadfast Ward | 2. Grand Healing | 3.Regeneration | 4. Lightning Splash | 5. Lightning Form |

I take a couple Storm Calling skills for some extra survivability/aoe damage, but I'm curious if I should even bother. Also, are Force Siphon and Blessing of Protection worth using?

Let me know what you guys think, opinions, recommendations, etc.,

Make a Templar for healing. Healing Springs cannot cut it in V12 Vet dungeons. Nor Mutagen or the other morph, even if you use Siphon on top. Possibly if you raise spell crit to 50% or so, and you are Altmer you can compete with a mediocre Khajiit/Nord/Orc/Imperial Templar Healer.

Good Templar Healers (especially Altmer & Breton but even Khajiit) are off the chart and cannot be matched by any other class.

Shunravi · May 2015

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

doubleagamingb14_ESO wrote: »

Hey guys I'm a sorcerer and I usually run a destruction/resto staff combo in group dungeons and fill the "Healer" role, and I was wondering what resto skills you think are the best. My current healer bar is something like this
| 1. Steadfast Ward | 2. Grand Healing | 3.Regeneration | 4. Lightning Splash | 5. Lightning Form |

I take a couple Storm Calling skills for some extra survivability/aoe damage, but I'm curious if I should even bother. Also, are Force Siphon and Blessing of Protection worth using?

Let me know what you guys think, opinions, recommendations, etc.,

Make a Templar for healing. Healing Springs cannot cut it in V12 Vet dungeons. Nor Mutagen or the other morph, even if you use Siphon on top. Possibly if you raise spell crit to 50% or so, and you are Altmer you can compete with a mediocre Khajiit/Nord/Orc/Imperial Templar Healer.

Good Templar Healers (especially Altmer & Breton but even Khajiit) are off the chart and cannot be matched by any other class.

I have seen Nightblade and Dk heal parses surpass templar ones. And healing springs can and most certainly will get you through veteran dungeons.

Bati · May 2015

I'm using Illustrious Healing, Mutagen (will probably switch to rapid regen), Structured Entropy (for extra hp and easy access to major sorcery), Healing Ward and Inner Light. Offbar is Funnel Health, Sap Essence, Combat Prayer, Inner Light and Structured Entropy (again, hp).

Artemiisia · May 2015

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

doubleagamingb14_ESO wrote: »

Hey guys I'm a sorcerer and I usually run a destruction/resto staff combo in group dungeons and fill the "Healer" role, and I was wondering what resto skills you think are the best. My current healer bar is something like this
| 1. Steadfast Ward | 2. Grand Healing | 3.Regeneration | 4. Lightning Splash | 5. Lightning Form |

I take a couple Storm Calling skills for some extra survivability/aoe damage, but I'm curious if I should even bother. Also, are Force Siphon and Blessing of Protection worth using?

Let me know what you guys think, opinions, recommendations, etc.,

Make a Templar for healing. Healing Springs cannot cut it in V12 Vet dungeons. Nor Mutagen or the other morph, even if you use Siphon on top. Possibly if you raise spell crit to 50% or so, and you are Altmer you can compete with a mediocre Khajiit/Nord/Orc/Imperial Templar Healer.

Good Templar Healers (especially Altmer & Breton but even Khajiit) are off the chart and cannot be matched by any other class.

thats just rubbish talk, I can heal all veteran dungeons with no problem at all, its only trials in this game where templar really is needed

Dragnelus · May 2015

Get rapid healing over mutagen! No real benefit with mutagen. Only when you cast it when yhe person is already under 20% but then it is a blessing of restoration or healing ward.

RoyJade · May 2015

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

doubleagamingb14_ESO wrote: »

Hey guys I'm a sorcerer and I usually run a destruction/resto staff combo in group dungeons and fill the "Healer" role, and I was wondering what resto skills you think are the best. My current healer bar is something like this
| 1. Steadfast Ward | 2. Grand Healing | 3.Regeneration | 4. Lightning Splash | 5. Lightning Form |

I take a couple Storm Calling skills for some extra survivability/aoe damage, but I'm curious if I should even bother. Also, are Force Siphon and Blessing of Protection worth using?

Let me know what you guys think, opinions, recommendations, etc.,

Make a Templar for healing. Healing Springs cannot cut it in V12 Vet dungeons. Nor Mutagen or the other morph, even if you use Siphon on top. Possibly if you raise spell crit to 50% or so, and you are Altmer you can compete with a mediocre Khajiit/Nord/Orc/Imperial Templar Healer.

Good Templar Healers (especially Altmer & Breton but even Khajiit) are off the chart and cannot be matched by any other class.

Some good healer I've see don't even use templar healing skills, even for Sanctum and HR/AA hard mode. 4k non critical heal with each tick and 3 healing spring stacked = all the heal you want.
Templar passives don't boost restro healing. NB's passive boost them. At very high level, two magicka nb seem better than one templar heal and one magicka dk. Equal heal, more dps, and veil is better than nova.
Dk healer with 30% more heal are very good too.

Sotha_Sil · May 2015

For VR dungeons this should do:
1rst bar : Healing Springs | Combat prayer | Rapid healing | Steadfast Ward | Inner Light and you can use Astronach as Ultimate because it is great damage buff.
2nd bar you can go destruction staff and damage skills

Don't forget entropy for 20% spell damage buff and for your stuff I'd suggest to go full spell damage (and valkyn skoria can proc with heavy attacks). If magicka regen is an issue maybe use force siphon.

byrom101b16_ESO · May 2015

Heal Sorcs. only remaining 'strength' is in sustain - so build for that with your Resto skills, passives and morphs.

They are ok healers with the right race, but only good for heal support in Trials.

However, some time Q4 this year apparently Zenimax are going to throw heal Sorcs. a bone or two, so watch out for that and get some practice in beforehand.

Septimus_Magna · May 2015

Dont forget to buff yourself with Entropy/Power Surge, healing scales off max magicka and spell damage so increase those stats. Most healers use a lot of cost reduction gear so they can spam healing springs non-stop.

Also Bound Aegis gives +8% max magicka and +2% spell dmg, its really good combined with Inner light which gives +10% spell crit +7% max magicka and +2% magicka regen.

Artemiisia · May 2015

I just use my dps gear when Im healing veteran dungeons, with 31k mag and 1200 mag recovery, it works without any problems.

Also since I do mostly do dps, im to lacy to switch champion point, points to get those extra healing %, so those are not even needed aswell if you know how to move and use your skills.

Again, this is for veteran dungeons and such, NOT trials, there you might see yourself as the off healer from time to time.

Having a master restro staff of course is also helping tremendous, since I stamina heal as well, though again, this is not needed also, it just lighten the work abit

Lithium Flower · May 2015

I can vouch for Artemiisia!

My main is a Templar healer so I'm rather familiar with the role. I've got a v2 sorcerer now I'm L2Ping with currently. The main thing is that as a healer your role doesn't stop at HPS. Metrics like how much does your healing spring heal for, and how much you can spam are not the main thing a healer needs to focus upon. Healing Spring spam is situational. You only need it in a few high-damage situations at best and any fool with a resto staff can pull it off.

The main thing is firstly keeping people alive - Templars have Breath of Life for when someone suddenly loses >30% of their health. DPS are delicate flowers and have tiny health pools, you can't have them running around with half of even that and getting one-shotted. So you need large instant heals to make sure they have enough HP at all times to absorb whatever bumps, bruises and smacks they might get in the course of a pull.

Sorcerors of course don't have Breath of Life - but they do have access to Healing Ward - which is indispensable. In addition, anything else a non-Templar healer can throw between a DD and a well-timed wrecking blow is fantastic. Bone Shield right before you anticipate big incoming damage would also be helpful but make sure there's enough time to activate the synergy. Suppression Field also reduces incoming damage.

The other thing support healers need to be doing is providing the buffs, debuffs and resources - Templars again have lots of ways to do this - sorcerors do not.

Stamina - the only way to restore stamina available to a sorcerer is through the Master's Restoration Staff which restores stamina with the first tick of a Grand Healing cast. Spam this on the tank and stamina dps to keep their stamina pools healthy.

Magicka - Fortunately, sorcerers have equal access to the best tools for this task - elemental drain, force siphon and necrotic orbs. Make liberal use of these.

Buffs: A sorcerer doesn't have access to illuminate (allies do additional damage), restoring light (30% bonus damage from every attack made on target) but they can use Combat Prayer (Heal + 8% damage buff) and should try to keep 100% uptime on this. Surge/Power Surge would be rather helpful.

Debuffs: No dark flare for sorcerors but elemental drain is a nice reduction in the enemy's spell resistance and helps out DPS in addition to providing magicka back.

Sorcerors are absolutely able to heal through veteran dungeons but the harder the content gets, the more Templars pull ahead because of their specialized toolkits. In a group that is accustomed to working together - you could still make it work by off-loading some support that otherwise falls upon a healer to a Templar tank or DPS and making up for it by doing more dps.

Earthwardzilvox_ESO · May 2015

I've found that every resto staff skill is good in some fights. You should be taking all of them! You should also take the second fighters guild ability, and the last two undaunted abilities. Bone Surge (bone shiled morph) gets people a healing taken buff. Energy Orb (nectrotic orb morph) serves as another heal, and restores mana to your allies. Ring of preservation (circle of protection morph) is great for stationary fights against daedra.

Snit · May 2015

The only thing sorc healers bring to the table, relative to Templars or NB's, is personal survivability. Hardened Ward should still be on your bar in many situations (particularly PvP).

Dragnelus · May 2015

Snit wrote: »

The only thing sorc healers bring to the table, relative to Templars or NB's, is personal survivability. Hardened Ward should still be on your bar in many situations (particularly PvP).

Dk also got good survivailty

Snit · May 2015

Dragnelus wrote: »

Snit wrote: »

The only thing sorc healers bring to the table, relative to Templars or NB's, is personal survivability. Hardened Ward should still be on your bar in many situations (particularly PvP).

Dk also got good survivailty

I agree. But for magicka-based, light-armor casters, Hardened Ward is at least in the conversation for "best mitigation tool." Rolling a sorc to heal is always going to be sub-optimal overall, but you can at least be sure to work in one of the few things the class is really good at in the role

WhiteCoatSyndrome · May 2015

I bring my Clannfear to give the tank a break (or act as one, in a few cases). It's helpful to keep your groupmates from NEEDING their entire HP bar restored in the first place; some bosses will hit hard enough you need to do that. Also when it dies, getting the Magicka back is a nice recharge you don't have to initiate yourself (and if it doesn't die, you probably don't need the recharge).

Kerioko · May 2015

p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »

Make a Templar for healing. Healing Springs cannot cut it in V12 Vet dungeons. Nor Mutagen or the other morph, even if you use Siphon on top. Possibly if you raise spell crit to 50% or so, and you are Altmer you can compete with a mediocre Khajiit/Nord/Orc/Imperial Templar Healer.

Good Templar Healers (especially Altmer & Breton but even Khajiit) are off the chart and cannot be matched by any other class.

I run a NB healer, and just like sorc, most of my heals comes from resto staff. There is very little in this game that a combination of rapid regen, healing springs, and healing ward will not get you through.

As for templars, I believe the only thing that makes them top healers is the ability to keep the tank topped off with stamina via spear shard. I have tried a templar, a sorc, and a NB all as end game healers, and I have found they each bring their own strengths to the battle:

Sorc - outstanding resource management and survivability, yet relies solely on resto for healing

Templar - great for burst healing, and only class able to heal without a resto staff, however , can have great resource issues when left spamming BoL

NB - only class where the more dps you can pull off, the better a healer you are. While it slightly trails templar in burst healing, a combination of funnel health, rapid regen, and healing ward will allow for 10K dps and 15K healing on any dungeon boss. And stack healing with spring, refreshing path, and sap essence will melt trash mobs (I have hit 35K damage, and 50K healing on AOE pulls).

Valymer · May 2015

My main bar as sorc healer is:

Healing Springs
Mutagen
Blessing of Restoration
Inner Light
Siphon Spirit