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Is it the return of magic 1.5 DK?
Note - this thread is NOT a nerf cry or qq, as I personally dont mind it at all and I am leveling a DK myself lel
Am I seeing straight?
Could it be?
Yes, I see sooooo many talons/invasion spam on DK's now. It seems to me as the build goes like this:
2 PC Engine (REQUIRED/PREFERRED)
5 heavy/2 Light
5 PC HEAVY ARENA
2 PC Torugs Pact
2 PC Cyrodiils Light
CP = all into block reduc, all intro reduce break free cost, mixed for damage
S/B: Invasion/Whip/Entropy/Reflective Scales/Talons
Resto: Hardened Armor/GDB or Coag/Igneous Shield/Rest is optional
Now obviously a bit of exaggeration this is NOT 1.5 DK, but similar in ways.
Build meant for group play/small group
Again it is annoying with the return of permablock DK/Invasion/Talons but hey! It only took so long before people switched back to magic haha.
Would like to hear other's take on this, as its pretty clear this is the dominant DK atm in cyrodiil, which I dont have a problem with, as its not nearly 1.5 DK.
Am I seeing straight?
Could it be?
Yes, I see sooooo many talons/invasion spam on DK's now. It seems to me as the build goes like this:
2 PC Engine (REQUIRED/PREFERRED)
5 heavy/2 Light
5 PC HEAVY ARENA
2 PC Torugs Pact
2 PC Cyrodiils Light
CP = all into block reduc, all intro reduce break free cost, mixed for damage
S/B: Invasion/Whip/Entropy/Reflective Scales/Talons
Resto: Hardened Armor/GDB or Coag/Igneous Shield/Rest is optional
Now obviously a bit of exaggeration this is NOT 1.5 DK, but similar in ways.
Build meant for group play/small group
Again it is annoying with the return of permablock DK/Invasion/Talons but hey! It only took so long before people switched back to magic haha.
Would like to hear other's take on this, as its pretty clear this is the dominant DK atm in cyrodiil, which I dont have a problem with, as its not nearly 1.5 DK.
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Draehl✭✭✭The problem, and I've run into this trying a similar magicka/heavy build on NB- is that unless you go full stamina for infiniblock/pure bunker tank that heavy armor just doesn't provide enough mitigation to go the magicka route. There is just too much burst currently to even try to tank with a magicka build. Plus with everyone running Nirnhoned your damage isn't up to par.
PvE? Works amazingly and I love it to death, but until both nirnhoned and burst are reined in I don't see anything besides pure tank, pure burst, group healer, or Sorc being viable.Main: Breton Nightblade "Shadow Cleric" (Sustained Damage/offhealer) 5L/2H - Resto + S&B
Alt: Argonian Dragonknight (Stam DoTs/Tank) 5H/2M - S&B + Bow
Alt: Nord Templar Berserker (Rawr) 5M/2H - Dual Wield + Two Hander
Alt: Altmer Sorceror (Pewpew) 7L - Destro + Resto2 -
Oughash✭✭✭✭You really don't need arena, to be honest. Just spec your gear to spell DMG and regen and use drink.
Then allocate all of your champion pts into block cost, fire dmg, and stam cost reduction or stam regen.
The thing people don't realize (never realized) is that the power of the LA DK is skill synergies, not raw power.2 -
Francescolg✭✭✭✭You can also go for full spell dmg build and then simply Molten Weapons and some goodie, as the mages guild's Entropy for 25k heavy attacks on low health targets. I'm very sure that this build works wonderfully with any spell-dmg setup. Magicka isn't really required, so you can purely focus on weapon attack + defense (instead of the one-shot wonder build).
DKs still have so many possibilities, my templar is just dreaming this0 -
Domander✭✭✭✭✭
✭There's really not that many, but they're hard to miss, they have to be in your face to be most effective, and that's also the strength of it.
I think there's a lot more stamina, and that's fine.0 -
Snit✭✭✭✭✭
✭Proximity Detonation + Dragon Leap is a heck of a one-two punch.Snit AD Sorc
Ratbag AD Warden Tank
Goblins AD Stamblade2 -
Vanzen✭✭✭✭✭People are slowly realising than stam DK is a joke compared to magicka. So more and more are switching back.Edited by Vanzen on 3 May 2015 07:323
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golfer.dub17_ESO✭✭✭✭People are slowly realising than stam DK is a joke compared to magicka. So more and more are switching back.
Tried Stamina. You're incredibly squishy and most competent people know how to dodge / cancel your attacks. For me it was just "what's the point?" You don't use many class skills (nor does what you're doing really synergize with any of your passives), Nightblades have higher burst and arguably just as good survivability.
Trying something similar to this now. Curious what people think.Edited by golfer.dub17_ESO on 3 May 2015 20:471 -
RoamingRiverElk✭✭✭✭✭Could this have something to do with nirnhoned armor, I wonder...Dalris Aalr - Magicka (Stamina) DK | Dalfish - Magicka Sorc | Dal Aalr - Magicka Warden | Dalrish - Mag/Stam NB | Irana Aalr - PvE Templar0 -
Attorneyatlawl✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭RoamingRiverElk wrote: »Could this have something to do with nirnhoned armor, I wonder...
Nope.ChannelTribes wrote: »Magicka dk > Wrecking blow DK
Indeed.You really don't need arena, to be honest. Just spec your gear to spell DMG and regen and use drink.
Then allocate all of your champion pts into block cost, fire dmg, and stam cost reduction or stam regen.
The thing people don't realize (never realized) is that the power of the LA DK is skill synergies, not raw power.
Indeed.Proximity Detonation + Dragon Leap is a heck of a one-two punch.
Indeed. (Talons as you land for added lulz)Edited by Attorneyatlawl on 6 May 2015 01:20-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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-In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.0 -
Juraigr✭✭✭✭What's all this about Molten Whip isn't it still buggy as hellEU Worst DK , Best DK Singapore and NA also known as 'Special Snowflake'
Jurra - V14 Dragonknight Rank 38 August Palatine
Jurra Hex - V14 Sorcerer Rank 25 Colonel [SEMI-RETIRED until Zos fix this BS sorc nonsense]
LA DK Still OP :P
One of the Three Light Armor DK's
#200StandardOfMightFFS
#RevertAshCloud
#RevertNewAnimations
#RevertUltiGain
#FixMoltenWhip
Grinding my way to August Palatine finally made it, still holding a torch for eso so now imma filthy casual0