returning NB confused about stats

xylus289_ESO · April 2015

at the time, around 4-5 months of launch, my pvp magicka/stam hybrid was really strong to gank with. i left at vr4 with around 12k magicka,10k hp and 11kstamina. now i can hardly kill anyone 1v1.

i see people talking about having 25k magicka, hp, stam. what did it miss?

xylus289_ESO · April 2015

this isnt a troll post. im sincerely confused. ~_~ how do people get their magicka,hp, and stam so high now?

Keron · April 2015

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

at the time, around 4-5 months of launch, my pvp magicka/stam hybrid was really strong to gank with. i left at vr4 with around 12k magicka,10k hp and 11kstamina. now i can hardly kill anyone 1v1.

Well this makes the post hard to gauge. At the time you are referring to max stats were in the range of 4.5 to 5k health and maybe 3k mag/stam or there about, mainly due to soft caps etc.

So, no clue what to answer.

ToRelax · April 2015

Keron wrote: »

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

at the time, around 4-5 months of launch, my pvp magicka/stam hybrid was really strong to gank with. i left at vr4 with around 12k magicka,10k hp and 11kstamina. now i can hardly kill anyone 1v1.

Well this makes the post hard to gauge. At the time you are referring to max stats were in the range of 4.5 to 5k health and maybe 3k mag/stam or there about, mainly due to soft caps etc.

So, no clue what to answer.

Actually, those were emperor's stats.

Maybe not even. I think I had like 4k hp and 2.6k magicka or so as emp back then...

Keron · April 2015

True, went overboard with my numbers. I'm fairly sure I saw Tanks running around with 5k hp, though, but probably severely limited in other resources.

xylus289_ESO · April 2015

Keron wrote: »

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

at the time, around 4-5 months of launch, my pvp magicka/stam hybrid was really strong to gank with. i left at vr4 with around 12k magicka,10k hp and 11kstamina. now i can hardly kill anyone 1v1.

Well this makes the post hard to gauge. At the time you are referring to max stats were in the range of 4.5 to 5k health and maybe 3k mag/stam or there about, mainly due to soft caps etc.

So, no clue what to answer.

the stats i had back then were the avg stat number for most players in VR ranks. though most people has at least 4-6k hp higher than i and slightly more stam or magicka based on their build.

so it took taking them out in one fell swoop or i was obliterated. i was playing a gank hybrid i came up with.

is it just best to hit VR14 before i even touch pvp again?

Faugaun · April 2015

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

at the time, around 4-5 months of launch, my pvp magicka/stam hybrid was really strong to gank with. i left at vr4 with around 12k magicka,10k hp and 11kstamina. now i can hardly kill anyone 1v1.

i see people talking about having 25k magicka, hp, stam. what did it miss?

The numbers we like above posters said...uhhh since then they revamped everything inflated numbers a lot and removed diminishing returns....what this means is the hybrid build is at a disadvantage...sort of....you can use more skills which might be beneficial but more often you are probably better picking either stay or magicka. Pretty much all the adjustments made for champion system and B2P have made the game something entirely new even what stats increase damage for which skills has completely changed.

Its a shorter list to list thebthingsnthat haven't changed...

Faugaun · April 2015

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

Keron wrote: »

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

at the time, around 4-5 months of launch, my pvp magicka/stam hybrid was really strong to gank with. i left at vr4 with around 12k magicka,10k hp and 11kstamina. now i can hardly kill anyone 1v1.

Well this makes the post hard to gauge. At the time you are referring to max stats were in the range of 4.5 to 5k health and maybe 3k mag/stam or there about, mainly due to soft caps etc.

So, no clue what to answer.

the stats i had back then were the avg stat number for most players in VR ranks. though most people has at least 4-6k hp higher than i and slightly more stam or magicka based on their build.

so it took taking them out in one fell swoop or i was obliterated. i was playing a gank hybrid i came up with.

is it just best to hit VR14 before i even touch pvp again?

You might wish too apply your champion points and maybe earn some more, but the system scales you to vr12 now it. Only scaled you to vr1 before so you can probably PvP just fine once you learn the new techniques.....but defiantly start earning your daily enlightened cp at the least.

Keron · April 2015

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

Keron wrote: »

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

at the time, around 4-5 months of launch, my pvp magicka/stam hybrid was really strong to gank with. i left at vr4 with around 12k magicka,10k hp and 11kstamina. now i can hardly kill anyone 1v1.

Well this makes the post hard to gauge. At the time you are referring to max stats were in the range of 4.5 to 5k health and maybe 3k mag/stam or there about, mainly due to soft caps etc.

So, no clue what to answer.

the stats i had back then were the avg stat number for most players in VR ranks. though most people has at least 4-6k hp higher than i and slightly more stam or magicka based on their build.

so it took taking them out in one fell swoop or i was obliterated. i was playing a gank hybrid i came up with.

is it just best to hit VR14 before i even touch pvp again?

This doesn't make it any clearer for me. You claim to have had 10k HP in August/September 2014? Or is that the "converted to now" number and you had 1k back then? Both do not add up. Sorry, I know I'm not helping right now, but yeah, I'd like to understand.

ToRelax · April 2015

Keron wrote: »

True, went overboard with my numbers. I'm fairly sure I saw Tanks running around with 5k hp, though, but probably severely limited in other resources.

Well it's hard to say wether it was before or after the increase in softcaps with Update 1.3. That was around the time.

And on topic, my V14 char is running around with epic tristat food, epic and legendary armor and enchants with quite some max stat boosts, Mage's guild and Undaunted passives, Dunmer passives... and ofc V14. It just adds up.
To understand why you are so low or how you could go higher we would need to know about all that on your character.

Edit: Right, 150 CP, too.

xylus289_ESO · April 2015

Faugaun wrote: »

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

Keron wrote: »

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

at the time, around 4-5 months of launch, my pvp magicka/stam hybrid was really strong to gank with. i left at vr4 with around 12k magicka,10k hp and 11kstamina. now i can hardly kill anyone 1v1.

Well this makes the post hard to gauge. At the time you are referring to max stats were in the range of 4.5 to 5k health and maybe 3k mag/stam or there about, mainly due to soft caps etc.

So, no clue what to answer.

the stats i had back then were the avg stat number for most players in VR ranks. though most people has at least 4-6k hp higher than i and slightly more stam or magicka based on their build.

so it took taking them out in one fell swoop or i was obliterated. i was playing a gank hybrid i came up with.

is it just best to hit VR14 before i even touch pvp again?

You might wish too apply your champion points and maybe earn some more, but the system scales you to vr12 now it. Only scaled you to vr1 before so you can probably PvP just fine once you learn the new techniques.....but defiantly start earning your daily enlightened cp at the least.

Thanks. whats enlightened? it sounds important already lol. what can i do to earn this?

Rune_Relic · April 2015

RTFM!
....oh...wait..
:d

xylus289_ESO · April 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Keron wrote: »

True, went overboard with my numbers. I'm fairly sure I saw Tanks running around with 5k hp, though, but probably severely limited in other resources.

Well it's hard to say wether it was before or after the increase in softcaps with Update 1.3. That was around the time.

And on topic, my V14 char is running around with epic tristat food, epic and legendary armor and enchants with quite some max stat boosts, Mage's guild and Undaunted passives, Dunmer passives... and ofc V14. It just adds up.
To understand why you are so low or how you could go higher we would need to know about all that on your character.

Edit: Right, 150 CP, too.

Okay thanks. good info. i just realized cp means champion points and how does one manage to get a lot of these? just xp grinding in craglorn or something?

ToRelax · April 2015

xylus289_ESO wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Keron wrote: »

True, went overboard with my numbers. I'm fairly sure I saw Tanks running around with 5k hp, though, but probably severely limited in other resources.

Well it's hard to say wether it was before or after the increase in softcaps with Update 1.3. That was around the time.

And on topic, my V14 char is running around with epic tristat food, epic and legendary armor and enchants with quite some max stat boosts, Mage's guild and Undaunted passives, Dunmer passives... and ofc V14. It just adds up.
To understand why you are so low or how you could go higher we would need to know about all that on your character.

Edit: Right, 150 CP, too.

Okay thanks. good info. i just realized cp means champion points and how does one manage to get a lot of these? just xp grinding in craglorn or something?

If you had a V14 char when the champion system was released, you had 70 points already to start with. Some people grinded a lot of them when it was easy, so some players have well over 200 by now. I just PvP'ed a lot...
Basically you get Enlightenment worth of one CP each day. That means, the exp you get is worth much more for the champion system until you used up your enlightenment pool - you get that point very fast.