Wrecking blow - crit rate. Bug or intentional?

Kelleton · March 2015

The critical % on wrecking blow seems to be broken. I am running a 60% crit rate and looking at combat logs my critical rate on all skills seem to make sense except wrecking blow. Wrecking blow consistently crits at about 30% of my normal crit rate.

Is this by design? Did they want it to be a hard hitting ability and it became OP with a normal crit rate? Or is this a bug. This seems to be the case with a few friends that have tested this as well.

The main problem with this is it really reduces the effectiveness of both the critical % as well as critical damage stats on 2 handed builds compared to other builds.

If this was a balance issue they should just lower the base damage of wrecking blow and increase the crit rate to normal to normalize stats, if this is a bug then at least its brought to attention

Jules · March 2015

Same exact thing happening with eruption in dk earthen heart tree. Doing about 1/2% crit than the character sheet reads every time.

monkeyzealer · April 2015

I have also noticed this as well

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2015

The way they "banlaced" stamina is

Bow 20% less power (then other stamina weapons) more crit (passive)

Two Hand fully power less crit

Dual wield full power and crit

One hand and shield full power and crit

mike.capib16_ESO · April 2015

apolitzab14_ESO wrote: »

The critical % on wrecking blow seems to be broken. I am running a 60% crit rate and looking at combat logs my critical rate on all skills seem to make sense except wrecking blow. Wrecking blow consistently crits at about 30% of my normal crit rate.

Is this by design? Did they want it to be a hard hitting ability and it became OP with a normal crit rate? Or is this a bug. This seems to be the case with a few friends that have tested this as well.

The main problem with this is it really reduces the effectiveness of both the critical % as well as critical damage stats on 2 handed builds compared to other builds.

If this was a balance issue they should just lower the base damage of wrecking blow and increase the crit rate to normal to normalize stats, if this is a bug then at least its brought to attention

I'm experiencing the same issue. I have almost 60% crit, but Wrecking Blow only crits for ~20% of the time. It is awfully frustrating.

Emma_Overload · April 2015

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

The way they "banlaced" stamina is

Bow 20% less power (then other stamina weapons) more crit (passive)

Two Hand fully power less crit

Dual wield full power and crit

One hand and shield full power and crit

Do you have proof or an official source for any of this? Did you also see a "clutch of butterflies" while you were writing this post?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2015

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

The way they "banlaced" stamina is

Bow 20% less power (then other stamina weapons) more crit (passive)

Two Hand fully power less crit

Dual wield full power and crit

One hand and shield full power and crit

Do you have proof or an official source for any of this? Did you also see a "clutch of butterflies" while you were writing this post?

When you weapon swap to bow (gold) from the other weapons you drop 20% in weapon damage but with my 63% crit I does crit around that

My Twohanded (purple) normal weapon damage 53% crit doesn't come close to half crit

My dual wield loses no power with 64% crit, crit very near there.

My One hand and shield 53% or 63% (based on powers used crit normally with no debuff

Half of your Twohanded crit is MIA

So how about you stick to your staff and stop trolling a stamina post

Erock25 · April 2015

This isn't just a Wrecking Blow thing. There have been a few topics now where it is DK problems, or Sorc problems, and now Wrecking Blow problems and my guess is something is messing with critical ratings on a per skill basis. I have noticed very often in PVE that Recount and FTC track a particular skill at a good 10-30% below my critical rating.

It is important to remind people that this could just be an add-on issue and that crits aren't registering with add-ons on damage shields so if you're checking your %'s in PVP, this may explain it. I think blocking might prevent crits as well.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2015

My snipe crits for 10-12k and WB when I go Twohanded crits in the same range
7-8 non crit that a noticeable damage difference on in and enemies health bar so it's not simple an addon problem cause if it was criting and not showing up they should have still died

Proscar · April 2015

I"m interested in confirmation of this as well.

Kelleton · April 2015

Ive noticed the crit rate (in pve) is roughly what my spell crit is. Could someone with high spell crit test this? unfortunately I do not have the gear to play around with that to confirm. Ive done weeks of testing in PVE and the crit rate for wrecking blow remains ~20% while my character sheet and other abilities are ~60%

RavenSworn · April 2015

Do the passives in each respective weapon line affecting the crit chance? I know that a full set of medium affects my weapon damage and having 5m/2l armor seems to nullify that passive.

Valymer · April 2015

uniq_faznrb18_ESO wrote: »

Do the passives in each respective weapon line affecting the crit chance? I know that a full set of medium affects my weapon damage and having 5m/2l armor seems to nullify that passive.

5 medium is a full set, though (a bit counter-intuitive)

Kelleton · April 2015

Valymer wrote: »

uniq_faznrb18_ESO wrote: »

Do the passives in each respective weapon line affecting the crit chance? I know that a full set of medium affects my weapon damage and having 5m/2l armor seems to nullify that passive.

5 medium is a full set, though (a bit counter-intuitive)

They really need to change that tool tip

kokoandshinb14a_ESO · April 2015

nothing is as it seems when it comes to gaming and MMOS. LOL when you play these games long enough, you jsut take it with a grain of salt.

Imagine IF Wrecking Blow did Crit 60% of the time? there would be even more outrage on the forums about this, that, and the other thing.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2015

kokoandshinb14a_ESO wrote: »

nothing is as it seems when it comes to gaming and MMOS. LOL when you play these games long enough, you jsut take it with a grain of salt.

Imagine IF Wrecking Blow did Crit 60% of the time? there would be even more outrage on the forums about this, that, and the other thing.

This is the *** people raged about with soft caps putting points into something and not getting everything out of it you sacrifice so much by making a crit build that you back to have crit if I make build with 60% crit then my Attacks should crit 60% of the times it's that simple

If you put all your gear and CP into Health Im sure you want all that health but to make a sacrifice and not get it is a waste

Dekkameron · April 2015

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

kokoandshinb14a_ESO wrote: »

nothing is as it seems when it comes to gaming and MMOS. LOL when you play these games long enough, you jsut take it with a grain of salt.

Imagine IF Wrecking Blow did Crit 60% of the time? there would be even more outrage on the forums about this, that, and the other thing.

This is the *** people raged about with soft caps putting points into something and not getting everything out of it you sacrifice so much by making a crit build that you back to have crit if I make build with 60% crit then my Attacks should crit 60% of the times it's that simple

If you put all your gear and CP into Health Im sure you want all that health but to make a sacrifice and not get it is a waste

That makes no sense whatsoever tbh

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2015

Dekkameron wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

kokoandshinb14a_ESO wrote: »

nothing is as it seems when it comes to gaming and MMOS. LOL when you play these games long enough, you jsut take it with a grain of salt.

Imagine IF Wrecking Blow did Crit 60% of the time? there would be even more outrage on the forums about this, that, and the other thing.

This is the *** people raged about with soft caps putting points into something and not getting everything out of it you sacrifice so much by making a crit build that you back to have crit if I make build with 60% crit then my Attacks should crit 60% of the times it's that simple

If you put all your gear and CP into Health Im sure you want all that health but to make a sacrifice and not get it is a waste

That makes no sense whatsoever tbh

In 1.5 you had soft caps so if you had a soft cap of 1000 and you tried to add more then that you would only get half so you would need to 20 to get 10 having a crit chance of 60 and only criting 30% is the same thing

The soft caps were removed cause you had either waste half your point in something or being a few things to soft cap the thingost people did

Alcast · April 2015

Kelleton wrote: »

The critical % on wrecking blow seems to be broken. I am running a 60% crit rate and looking at combat logs my critical rate on all skills seem to make sense except wrecking blow. Wrecking blow consistently crits at about 30% of my normal crit rate.

Is this by design? Did they want it to be a hard hitting ability and it became OP with a normal crit rate? Or is this a bug. This seems to be the case with a few friends that have tested this as well.

The main problem with this is it really reduces the effectiveness of both the critical % as well as critical damage stats on 2 handed builds compared to other builds.

If this was a balance issue they should just lower the base damage of wrecking blow and increase the crit rate to normal to normalize stats, if this is a bug then at least its brought to attention

FTC does not show the correct crit rate for Wrecking blow. Try to use Recount or Combat Analytics and you will see that you will get the correct crit rate.

kokoandshinb14a_ESO · April 2015

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Dekkameron wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

kokoandshinb14a_ESO wrote: »

nothing is as it seems when it comes to gaming and MMOS. LOL when you play these games long enough, you jsut take it with a grain of salt.

Imagine IF Wrecking Blow did Crit 60% of the time? there would be even more outrage on the forums about this, that, and the other thing.

This is the *** people raged about with soft caps putting points into something and not getting everything out of it you sacrifice so much by making a crit build that you back to have crit if I make build with 60% crit then my Attacks should crit 60% of the times it's that simple

If you put all your gear and CP into Health Im sure you want all that health but to make a sacrifice and not get it is a waste

That makes no sense whatsoever tbh

In 1.5 you had soft caps so if you had a soft cap of 1000 and you tried to add more then that you would only get half so you would need to 20 to get 10 having a crit chance of 60 and only criting 30% is the same thing

The soft caps were removed cause you had either waste half your point in something or being a few things to soft cap the thingost people did

I think you are trying to say that diminishing returns should apply to the no soft cap-- right?

Kelleton · April 2015

Alcast wrote: »

Kelleton wrote: »

The critical % on wrecking blow seems to be broken. I am running a 60% crit rate and looking at combat logs my critical rate on all skills seem to make sense except wrecking blow. Wrecking blow consistently crits at about 30% of my normal crit rate.

Is this by design? Did they want it to be a hard hitting ability and it became OP with a normal crit rate? Or is this a bug. This seems to be the case with a few friends that have tested this as well.

The main problem with this is it really reduces the effectiveness of both the critical % as well as critical damage stats on 2 handed builds compared to other builds.

If this was a balance issue they should just lower the base damage of wrecking blow and increase the crit rate to normal to normalize stats, if this is a bug then at least its brought to attention

FTC does not show the correct crit rate for Wrecking blow. Try to use Recount or Combat Analytics and you will see that you will get the correct crit rate.

thanks

Father · April 2015

hmm...FTC does show the right crit rate if ur version is up 2 date..I got 57% crit..it shows exactly 57% crit and how many hits in dps window

darkdivideb16_ESO · April 2015

I think it sometimes bugs & counts your heavy/medium attacks as wrecking blows if you're clipping them, several times I've had 4 wb show on FTC when I've only used 2.