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More Gore - Rated M for Gimme MOAR

WraithAzraiel
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Those of us who were Skyrim mod junkies will know of what I speak when I say Dance of Death.

I think it'd be a great addition to the game to put more gore. Gives decapitations, give us dismemberment. Not everywhere but in places that feel EPIC.

For instance, the last boss of a dungeon. Dependent upon what kind of attack deals the killing blow give a small cinematic of an EPIC death scene for that boss.

In PvP? Can't be done? SURE IT CAN!

A split moment before your Death Recap plays, show the attack that killed us in slow mo, with blood and guts and immolation!

Is this a possibility or just a dream?

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ @ZOS_EVERYBODY what do you think?
Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

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  • WraithAzraiel
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    Obviously add an option to toggle it on and off for those not interested in the feature but wouldn't it add just a little bit more depth to epic fights.

    Wouldn't the killing of that final boss in that Trial you worked so hard to beat be that much sweeter if you could watch it's death throws in slow motion, with the player that dealt the killing blow performing the Execution themself?

    Think of the avenues it would open up in terms of Achievement's alone!


    In PvP, it's all too fast paced for you to be able to stop and smell the roses..err watch your epic executions. So when you're about to call it a day, you can watch the last handful of your PvP session, share it with your friends.

    Instead of having the droll robotic sensation of death in PvP be waiting for E so you can rez at the nearest FC, trivializing deaths on the battlefield time after time. Imagine watching your own beautiful demise with a multitude of executions and kill moves.


    Of course, optimization takes priority, can't enjoy any of this epicness with terribad lag and undesirable imbalances.

    This feature would have to be an "icing on the cake" type saved in reserve for when things are running smoothly enough to dedicate time to it's implementation.


    What do you guys think?

    Even if you don't like this idea, would you want more blood and gore in your ESO?
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

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  • AshySamurai
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    Abot slow motion of your death - why not. But for more blood and gore - absolutly. It would be awesome to see blood on my sword and armor.
    Make sweetrolls, not nerfs!
  • bellanca6561n
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    Gory player deaths have a negative impact on online game player culture, War of the Roses being one rather extreme example.

    In ESO most of your humanoid NPC opponents are provocatively clad females, wearing armor designed to titillate not protect in many cases, who utter death-gasm sighs when they expire, often extended ones. And if you use an area effect damage over time spell on several of them you have something approaching a *** film soundtrack. In death most stare open eyed at the sky.

    I've seen my character die vomiting fluid from her throat uttering horrible sounds.

    Do not expand upon this. Do not enhance this.

    Edited by bellanca6561n on 14 October 2014 16:56
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Well obvious precautions would have to be taken to prevent it from approaching the ridiculous.

    I'm not asking for horror-film style gore. I just want more blood and visceral combat. Not gut falling out from eviscerated corpses, not spurts of arterial blood from the cut throat of an enemy. No.

    As it stands currently, the most blood you see in game is if you're a vampire and you're feeding, or if you're a werewolf and you're devouring. 2 things. That's it

    No pool of blood around defeated enemies, no decapitated enemies, no enemies with arms or legs missing. The most visceral part of combat currently is the sounds.

    The can do better. They should do better. I'm sure it's probably a coding or even a Rating problem but the games already rated M is it not? Surely there can be more they can get away with.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

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  • Vizier
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    Would love to see ZoS respond to this....

    Would definitely like more options for gore and finishing moves.
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Any official word or hell a comment would be appreciated from the Powers That Be.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno‌ @ZOS_AmeliaR‌ @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ @ZOS_UlyssesW‌ etc etc

    Unsure how to definitely get their attention aside from riddling my posts with profanity.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

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  • nerevarine1138
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    I think that people are confused about what "Mature" means. And this horse was beaten to death quite a while ago.

    Slow-mo death doesn't work in an MMO. It's way too hard to coordinate a slow-motion effect across multiple computers, and it's far too time-consuming if they're only going to do it for group dungeon final bosses.

    Could they add lots of "wicked-cool" blood decals after something is dead? Sure. It's still something that isn't necessary and takes development time away from content for people who don't have an odd fascination with seeing blood.
    In ESO most of your humanoid NPC opponents are provocatively clad females, wearing armor designed to titillate not protect in many cases, who utter death-gasm sighs when they expire, often extended ones. And if you use an area effect damage over time spell on several of them you have something approaching a *** film soundtrack.

    Also, I just had to call this one out: what game are you playing? Because it isn't ESO, which is probably one of the best games on the market in terms of their design and portrayal of female characters.
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  • WraithAzraiel
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    Regardless, I'd like an official response, if possible.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

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  • Naivefanboi
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    hmmm no reply makes me glad i bought another two months of sub....guess i should just stop doing that
    Edited by Naivefanboi on 20 October 2014 08:18
  • nerevarine1138
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    hmmm no reply makes me glad i bought another two months of sub....guess i should just stop doing that

    These forums are not a direct pipeline to the developers, and you aren't guaranteed a green response on any thread that's posted. Welcome to a gaming forum.
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  • Gidorick
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    I pretty much gave up on the "provide a suggestion - given earnest feeback" dream a few weeks ago. ZOS will do what they want to do. They will make changes to silence the squeaky wheels but aside from that ESO will grow and change according to THEIR vision... not through the desires of what appears to be a minority of the paying customers.

    Anyway, I came across this the other day:
    ZOS_GaryA wrote: »
    Hey there folks,

    As always, we appreciate all of the feedback we can get in any way you can provide it, so thank you very much!

    We'd also like to ask that these suggestions are submitted using the /feedback feature within the game. Our devs read each and every /feedback ticket that is submitted, so this is a great way to get your ideas heard as well.

    From here:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1341068/#Comment_1341068

    So now I plan on submitting a /feedback in-game once a week with things I'd like to see in the game. I wont get responses from ZOS but at least I know what I'm submitting will be seen by those that make the decisions about further game development.

    Cheers... and here's to more gore!
    Edited by Gidorick on 29 October 2014 04:21
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

    Want more crazy ideas? Check out my Concept Repository!
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Outstanding
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

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  • WraithAzraiel
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    Necro, I know but relevant point still stands. Some players still don't feel as though the game is living up to it's Mature rating.

    Now that there's an influx of new blood on the forums, I believe this should be brought to light once more.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

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  • Flynch
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    Necro, I know but relevant point still stands. Some players still don't feel as though the game is living up to it's Mature rating.

    Now that there's an influx of new blood on the forums, I believe this should be brought to light once more.

    Let's see if they have the guts for it.
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Flynch wrote: »
    Necro, I know but relevant point still stands. Some players still don't feel as though the game is living up to it's Mature rating.

    Now that there's an influx of new blood on the forums, I believe this should be brought to light once more.

    Let's see if they have the guts for it.

    haha, I see what you did there....lol
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

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  • PKMN12
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    Blood, gore, and any of that does not make it more mature. Actually i have found it to mean you are MUCH LESS mature.
  • WraithAzraiel
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    PKMN12 wrote: »
    Blood, gore, and any of that does not make it more mature. Actually i have found it to mean you are MUCH LESS mature.

    Thank you for your opinion. But seeing no blood when you murder something, is just not realistic. And the minute splashes that MIGHT exist in the game, are so brief I can't call to memory any time I've seen it in combat.

    The ONLY time I ever seen any kind of blood action, is the Vampire feed animation and the Werewolf Devour animation. That's it. And maybe some spell effects that are part of the scripts for quest NPCs.

    So rather than trying to attack someone's maturity level, find something more constructive to do with your time.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

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  • Ace_SiN
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    I don't care for dismemberment in a MMO. It would probably look extremely tacky, to say the least. Even in Skyrim the animations can look pretty bad when the models don't align correctly.

    As for more blood and gore, I wouldn't mind seeing more of it, but nothing too crazy. Blood on the weapon and some blood on the armor would be fine(maybe a bit on the ground). One of my favorite parts about using Devour is that you get blood on your snout. It's a subtle, yet effective, approach like that I would like to see added to some other areas.
    King of Beasts

  • Panda244
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  • Kragorn
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    Is this a possibility
    God I hope not.

  • F7sus4
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    Kragorn wrote: »
    God I hope not.
    I second that. Some, obviously, spent too much time playing Age of Conan. ;)
  • WraithAzraiel
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    F7sus4 wrote: »
    Kragorn wrote: »
    God I hope not.
    I second that. Some, obviously, spent too much time playing Age of Conan. ;)

    In the original post did I quote Age of Conan as my inspiration for this idea? NEGATRON.

    I found my muse in the MUCH more tastefully done, Dance of Death mod for Skyrim.

    It's realistic without being too graphic or over the top with the blood and the gutseses and the spurting and the comical ridiculousity.

    I don't want cheap chintzy, "Oi! Your arms off!" Nor do I want a Tarantino movie. I just want combat to have more OOMPH.

    Especially boss fights in PvE. That'd be neat. Kill cams for boss fights. Am I right?
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

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    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

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  • skarvika
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    Yes indeedy that would be nice.
    QQing is a full time job
  • F7sus4
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    In the original post did I quote Age of Conan as my inspiration for this idea?
    No need to do it.
    It's realistic without being too graphic or over the top with the blood and the gutseses and the spurting and the comical ridiculousity.
    Being pragmatic - "You want more crashes, lag and bugs? Because this is how you get more crashes, lag and bugs."
  • Simzani
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    Any addition to the game could lead to more crashs, lags and bugs. So you don't want zenimax to work on the game in any area. Your stance, not mine. I support the suggestion for a bloodiest eso, it is actually rated M because of the murder thing, but it's way more on the bright enchanting world than a dark fantasy actually. As long as it is optionnal, I don't see a reason to be against, aside from a dev time pov.
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