DK Heavy 2H

EricGraham1987_ESO · March 2015

Is this viable? This is what I am doing in PvE but I like this style for PvP as well. Can it be done?

Armitas · March 2015

I haven't tried it myself but I have a few thoughts on it.

With igneous weapons can you push your damage into Heavy attacks rather than skill spam. Not only are heavy attacks free they also return stamina which you can use to keep immovable up, or bone shield or vigor. Immovable will also allow you to heavy attack freely.

Rapid regen is a pretty cost effective, low maintenance heal that should syngergize well with heavy armor without taxing your reduced resource recovery. By having the resto staff you will also have a heavy attack that can restore magicka.

As far as dk skills I would use engulfing flames and burning embers (or appropriate morph) because they are low cost. If you wear the engine guardian set you can use those cheap cast skills to help trigger the set proc.

cozmon3c_ESO · March 2015

One of the best builds In the game imo

EricGraham1987_ESO · March 2015

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

One of the best builds In the game imo

What build is?

Vanzen · March 2015

As a Magicka DK, I just love when a stam DK comes for me ... Stam DK is a fraud many people fell for. No magicka = no scale/no igneous shield/no GDB./no flame lash/ no nothing ... With stam you just drop everything that is op in DK ...
Even nerfed, in open field mass pvp, scale is still the most op skill of all.

Lava_Croft · March 2015

I love Stamina Dragon Knights! They are even easier to kite than the Magicka ones, while they lack all the survivability. I just have to make sure that I don't get hit by Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow and Wrecking Blow.

EricGraham1987_ESO · March 2015

What about a health built heavy 2H dk?

Vanzen · March 2015

And contrary to common belief, stam is even useless to blocking build. You need a magicka build to block. What ability you ll use when using all your stam for blocking ?

EricGraham1987_ESO · March 2015

So DK heavy 2H health build isn't viable at all I assume?

Vanzen · March 2015

Well ... Some people think it is and some have some success with it I presume. Thats only my opinion that stam dk is inferior to magicka dk, considering all the options magicka brings.

xylena · March 2015

i've been running 2h heavy stam dk, loving the durability and i can still take out these silly perma dodge glass cannons with a few solid hits

Warraxx · March 2015

Vanzen wrote: »

As a Magicka DK, I just love when a stam DK comes for me ... Stam DK is a fraud many people fell for. No magicka = no scale/no igneous shield/no GDB./no flame lash/ no nothing ... With stam you just drop everything that is op in DK ...
Even nerfed, in open field mass pvp, scale is still the most op skill of all.

lol, i'm a stam dk (have been since launch). i can't flappy flappy very long; however, the faster TTK more than makes up for that.

Vanzen · March 2015

Warraxx wrote: »

Vanzen wrote: »

As a Magicka DK, I just love when a stam DK comes for me ... Stam DK is a fraud many people fell for. No magicka = no scale/no igneous shield/no GDB./no flame lash/ no nothing ... With stam you just drop everything that is op in DK ...
Even nerfed, in open field mass pvp, scale is still the most op skill of all.

lol, i'm a stam dk (have been since launch). i can't flappy flappy very long; however, the faster TTK more than makes up for that.

I was an hybrid before 1.6. Stam was better then.

Davadin · March 2015

i used to be all heavy but now switched to all meds to play around.

i still slots my flap flap wings and GDB. i dont use it a lot since either myself or my enemy would be on the ground under 5 seconds usually.

yes, flap flap still pretty OP. as well as GDB when turned on RIGHT after Igneous Armor which boosts your healing for the first few seconds (then pop stamina-based Rally as bonus too)

Yes, it's very much viable.

Rylana · March 2015

Heavy 2H DK reporting in. Build is fine, viable, and strong.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155315/any-pvp-heavy-armor-builds-out-there-for-1-6#latest

Posted the build in that thread I am currently using. Works good.

Durham · March 2015

Davadin wrote: »

i used to be all heavy but now switched to all meds to play around.

i still slots my flap flap wings and GDB. i dont use it a lot since either myself or my enemy would be on the ground under 5 seconds usually.

yes, flap flap still pretty OP. as well as GDB when turned on RIGHT after Igneous Armor which boosts your healing for the first few seconds (then pop stamina-based Rally as bonus too)

Yes, it's very much viable.

Green Dragon blood is good with a heavy tank shield build but its far from OP... Takes close to 4k magicka and at most you might heal for 9k if you have no health but in current PvP if you let your health get to the 30% range you are dead.... Your better off with casting a shield .. I'm sorry I think gdb is extreamily overrated and misunderstood.... In PVP many dragon knights have stopped slotting it...

Warraxx · March 2015

Durham wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

i used to be all heavy but now switched to all meds to play around.

i still slots my flap flap wings and GDB. i dont use it a lot since either myself or my enemy would be on the ground under 5 seconds usually.

yes, flap flap still pretty OP. as well as GDB when turned on RIGHT after Igneous Armor which boosts your healing for the first few seconds (then pop stamina-based Rally as bonus too)

Yes, it's very much viable.

Green Dragon blood is good with a heavy tank shield build but its far from OP... Takes close to 4k magicka and at most you might heal for 9k if you have no health but in current PvP if you let your health get to the 30% range you are dead.... Your better off with casting a shield .. I'm sorry I think gdb is extreamily overrated and misunderstood.... In PVP many dragon knights have stopped slotting it...

i use it mainly for the stam regen buff. i use it more at full health than low health.

Durham · March 2015

Warraxx wrote: »

Durham wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

i used to be all heavy but now switched to all meds to play around.

i still slots my flap flap wings and GDB. i dont use it a lot since either myself or my enemy would be on the ground under 5 seconds usually.

yes, flap flap still pretty OP. as well as GDB when turned on RIGHT after Igneous Armor which boosts your healing for the first few seconds (then pop stamina-based Rally as bonus too)

Yes, it's very much viable.

Green Dragon blood is good with a heavy tank shield build but its far from OP... Takes close to 4k magicka and at most you might heal for 9k if you have no health but in current PvP if you let your health get to the 30% range you are dead.... Your better off with casting a shield .. I'm sorry I think gdb is extreamily overrated and misunderstood.... In PVP many dragon knights have stopped slotting it...

i use it mainly for the stam regen buff. i use it more at full health than low health.

Pots give 40 secs with a recast at 45 secs instead of 20 secs and costing almost 4k magicka... This allows me to flappy more or cast my damage shield... Green dragon blood the staple of our class is so weak at this point.. Your damage shield is of more value...

I have it on my secondary bar current as a ohh *** heal that I rarely use to be honest...still just does not feel right with out it....

Davadin · March 2015

Durham wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

i used to be all heavy but now switched to all meds to play around.

i still slots my flap flap wings and GDB. i dont use it a lot since either myself or my enemy would be on the ground under 5 seconds usually.

yes, flap flap still pretty OP. as well as GDB when turned on RIGHT after Igneous Armor which boosts your healing for the first few seconds (then pop stamina-based Rally as bonus too)

Yes, it's very much viable.

Green Dragon blood is good with a heavy tank shield build but its far from OP... Takes close to 4k magicka and at most you might heal for 9k if you have no health but in current PvP if you let your health get to the 30% range you are dead.... Your better off with casting a shield .. I'm sorry I think gdb is extreamily overrated and misunderstood.... In PVP many dragon knights have stopped slotting it...

i use it only in tandem with igneous shield. it gives fairly good damage and make sure my wrecking blows got ammo.

it's good, but you're right, it used to be such a staple...

EricGraham1987_ESO · April 2015

What is GDB?

xylena · April 2015

GDB = green dragon blood... it's a decent burst heal for magicka DKs, but stamina DKs in heavy armor with a 2h will want to save their magic for igneous shield and use that with 2h rally (momentum morph) for burst healing

and yes, i agree the change in potion mechanics has really weakened GDB, they won't stack so you are better off using tripots or health/stam pots to get the same effect without wasting magic

deepseamk20b14_ESO · April 2015

GDB....rally.....critical rush.....executioner.....wrecking blow. The build is readily.

McDoogs · April 2015

stam DKs might be cake for mag dks, but as a sorc they are a handful as long as they know enough to use wings and dodge roll. for my stam templar the fight usually comes down to who lands the first wb lol