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Should Magicka Detonation be an instant cast?

SRIBES
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I think it's pretty obvious the skill didn't become what ZOS wanted it to be. What do you think?
Edited by SRIBES on 11 March 2015 23:47

Should Magicka Detonation be an instant cast? 61 votes

Yes
31%
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No
68%
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  • themdogesbite
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    No
    What would stop a bigger zerg from instant casting it on your small outnumbered group? No, i think it would be a better solution if the skills damage scaled based on how many players are in the red circle at the time of detonation.

    Would be hilarious watching the zergs melt eacother with instant cast ranged aoe though, lmao.
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  • Vanzen
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    No
    lol This skill is already awesome to rack ap. if it was insta cast ... What I love the most is when attacking or defending a keep. Entropy/Forcepulse/Scale/detonation/sea of flame/Shooting star.
    Edited by Vanzen on 12 March 2015 10:01
  • Imdrefan
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    No
    Instant cast we be so easy to abuse.
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  • trimsic_ESO
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    No
    Burst AOE damage is already very high. No need for more facilities to get it even more harmful.

    People need more tools to mitigate AOE damage, especially tools that do not promote zerging. The game is lacking long range AOE CC; it's now obvious to me. Could be new alliance war abilities.

    This being said, people no longer stack in a zerg ball defensive stance. This is a great progress owing to the new 1.6 combat mechanics.
  • Sotha_Sil
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    No
    Magicka Detonation offers great opportunities when it is used correctly. Instant cast shouldn't be considered as it would be overpowered (spam) and furthermore impossible to avoid.
    Edited by Sotha_Sil on 12 March 2015 12:57
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  • Septimus_Magna
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    No
    Instant cast would make the skill too strong, but I would be oke with reducing the cast time to 1.5 seconds.
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  • Morvul
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    No
    in prinziple, instant cast would make the skill too strong.
    Problem with the cast time though is, that when you need the skill the most (i.E: trying to break up a very large hostile group) - cast time skills have a tendency to not work at all as they are hit twice by the lag.
    Cast time skills have to "pass the lag" to start casting, and have to "pass the lag again" to finish casting. Hence, cast-time skills do not work to fight in high-lag enviroments.

    But still, making it instant cast just so that it actually works when you would need it most still makes it too powerfull...
  • Fruitdog
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    Yes
    How about make it instant cast but you can only have 1 active per caster just like the sorc curse? Or is it already that way?
  • cozmon3c_ESO
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    No
    Fruitdog wrote: »
    How about make it instant cast but you can only have 1 active per caster just like the sorc curse? Or is it already that way?

    no its not like curse atm, you can keep casting it on different targets, but if you cast it on the same target it just refreshes.

    Detonation
    needs a 1 second cast time imo and increased damage by 25% for every player caught in the circle at the explosion.
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  • Draxys
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    No
    way too early to tell if it needs to be changed, there are unfortunately lots of players that don't even have access to it yet
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  • Soulac
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    Yes pls!
    Also double the range and dmg.. a additional unblockable stun for 10 secs and major heal reduce wouldn't be bad either.

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  • Tankqull
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    No
    no but evtlually its dmg should be partly (50%?) unmitigatable,
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  • dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO
    dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO
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    No
    Its way to strong to be instant
  • SirEwan
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    No
    If it were instant case, a group could just use Proximity Detonation over and over dealing extremely high damage. Every group would be a "bomb group".
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  • Xupacabra
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    Yes
    This skill was made to use against bomb groups. You cannot use it when a bom group is fighting. Lag make you incapable of cast it. so its just a slot killer on our skill bar.
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  • technohic
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    No
    Fine as is. Don't need a ranged pulse spam. BTW it helps zergs more than anyone with more people casting it. Only way to address that that I've heard is having it hit harder the more people around.
  • Derra
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    No
    No. The casttime is a tad long though. I´d reduce it to about 1.3 seconds and give it a buff to increase dmg by 10% for everyone in the radius.
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  • Sharee
    Sharee
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    No
    No, but it's damage should definitely scale up sharply with the number of targets in it's AOE when it goes off.
  • jbcrocks
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    Yes
    not a lot use it and with a 12 man group, it would be easy to wipe zergs again :D
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