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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Bash.......

Subtomik
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Why the hell did zos make bash speed stupid fast, yet you still cant interrupt heavy attacks lol


sometimes I wish I could understand the thought process behind some of these changes.
  • DezIsDead
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    Dude bash is hilarious on the pts. Like machine gun fast. So many troll kills incoming
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    DezIsDead wrote: »
    Dude bash is hilarious on the pts. Like machine gun fast. So many troll kills incoming

    Bloody damn it...... Does the shield bash count as a light attack towards the new ultimate gain? Hope not.
  • Subtomik
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    We had a group of 7 going around bashing everyone it's so fun
  • DezIsDead
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    DezIsDead wrote: »
    Dude bash is hilarious on the pts. Like machine gun fast. So many troll kills incoming

    Bloody damn it...... Does the shield bash count as a light attack towards the new ultimate gain? Hope not.

    No bash doesn't proc the ulti gain "buff".
    But yeah subtomik I rolled a DC DK so we could test stuff and we literally spent an hour or two just bashing each other
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    DezIsDead wrote: »
    DezIsDead wrote: »
    Dude bash is hilarious on the pts. Like machine gun fast. So many troll kills incoming

    Bloody damn it...... Does the shield bash count as a light attack towards the new ultimate gain? Hope not.

    No bash doesn't proc the ulti gain "buff".
    But yeah subtomik I rolled a DC DK so we could test stuff and we literally spent an hour or two just bashing each other

    Ugh so SnS is still gonna be the go to thing in PvP still.... ugh at least there's that silver lining that players still need to lower there guard for that half second to get the ulti gain.
    Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on 29 January 2015 05:26
  • hammayolettuce
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    We had a group of 7 going around bashing everyone it's so fun

    And then everyone got mad :(
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    Id like to duel someone who only bashed me. See how far it got em.
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  • DezIsDead
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    DezIsDead wrote: »
    DezIsDead wrote: »
    Dude bash is hilarious on the pts. Like machine gun fast. So many troll kills incoming

    Bloody damn it...... Does the shield bash count as a light attack towards the new ultimate gain? Hope not.

    No bash doesn't proc the ulti gain "buff".
    But yeah subtomik I rolled a DC DK so we could test stuff and we literally spent an hour or two just bashing each other

    Ugh so SnS is still gonna be the go to thing in PvP still.... ugh at least there's that silver lining that players still need to lower there guard for that half second to get the ulti gain.

    Idk. Based on what I'm seeing block casting prolly won't be as big of a deal, stam drains super fast. Being able to block AoE's and the increase cost of just about everything really changed the meta IMO. Other than that, as a sorc I feel exactly the same. My build feels the same, and stacking shields feel the same. Then again I don't use pets.
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    DezIsDead wrote: »
    DezIsDead wrote: »
    DezIsDead wrote: »
    Dude bash is hilarious on the pts. Like machine gun fast. So many troll kills incoming

    Bloody damn it...... Does the shield bash count as a light attack towards the new ultimate gain? Hope not.

    No bash doesn't proc the ulti gain "buff".
    But yeah subtomik I rolled a DC DK so we could test stuff and we literally spent an hour or two just bashing each other

    Ugh so SnS is still gonna be the go to thing in PvP still.... ugh at least there's that silver lining that players still need to lower there guard for that half second to get the ulti gain.

    Idk. Based on what I'm seeing block casting prolly won't be as big of a deal, stam drains super fast. Being able to block AoE's and the increase cost of just about everything really changed the meta IMO. Other than that, as a sorc I feel exactly the same. My build feels the same, and stacking shields feel the same. Then again I don't use pets.

    Well there is passive HA skills the reduce cost of blocking so stack that with shields skills.... yea.....
  • Kas
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    back to LA->skill->bash double animation cancel rotations?
    april 2014 pvp was hillarious
    Edited by Kas on 29 January 2015 11:21
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  • Cody
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    So we are back to shield bash spammers killing everyone?
  • Lhorion
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    Without Stamina you cannot bash.
  • Subtomik
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    I havent seen it as a big damage dealer. but if they wanted to get rid of animation canceling they completly messed that up. attacks are so fast.
  • Lorkhan
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    yeah, some champion perks make me wonder:
    Invigorating Bash: Gives you a 20% chance to restore (xxx) Health when you bash an enemy
    Bashing Focus: Reduces the Stamina cost of Bash attacks by [x]%
    Ensnare: Grants a 33% chance to reduce an enemy's Movement Speed by 20% for 3 seconds any time you hit them with a Bash attack

    bash will come back to s&s rotation
    Edited by Lorkhan on 29 January 2015 13:23
  • DisgracefulMind
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    I have the invigorating bash perk and after my hour long duel with a heavy armor DK (I was in all light as a DK), all I have to say is bash can be a life saver lol..that being said, perhaps it's a bit much...
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  • Tintinabula
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    a couple of passives on PTS that heal you when you bash and regen stamina when you bash.
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    Theres also a 50% physical damage perk on interrupting the target that's nice..Course Venom arrow works same way.

    I will say this though, in a 1v1 you can spam bash pretty decently, anything past that and you won't be able to as your stamina will be gone in seconds.

  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Lorkhan wrote: »
    yeah, some champion perks make me wonder:
    Invigorating Bash: Gives you a 20% chance to restore (xxx) Health when you bash an enemy
    Bashing Focus: Reduces the Stamina cost of Bash attacks by [x]%
    Ensnare: Grants a 33% chance to reduce an enemy's Movement Speed by 20% for 3 seconds any time you hit them with a Bash attack

    bash will come back to s&s rotation

    So shield bashing restores stamina and health now and is super fast while also slowing down your enemy. Block can block most skills and magical AoEs now and you can still block cast. Can applie enchantments to make bashing even more powerful and reduce cost of bash. Any one else getting that feeling every one is just gonna hide behind blocking and bash/block cast every one in AvA now?
  • Galalin
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    Lorkhan wrote: »
    yeah, some champion perks make me wonder:
    Invigorating Bash: Gives you a 20% chance to restore (xxx) Health when you bash an enemy
    Bashing Focus: Reduces the Stamina cost of Bash attacks by [x]%
    Ensnare: Grants a 33% chance to reduce an enemy's Movement Speed by 20% for 3 seconds any time you hit them with a Bash attack

    bash will come back to s&s rotation

    So shield bashing restores stamina and health now and is super fast while also slowing down your enemy. Block can block most skills and magical AoEs now and you can still block cast. Can applie enchantments to make bashing even more powerful and reduce cost of bash. Any one else getting that feeling every one is just gonna hide behind blocking and bash/block cast every one in AvA now?

    Have you tried the pts? You can still block/cast? I think you need to log onto pts and re-check your info
  • Darklord_Tiberius
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    We had a group of 7 going around bashing everyone it's so fun

    Is Bash damage high again? Are we to see throngs of Bash Monkeys roaming the fields of Cyrodiil again?
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    Subtomik wrote: »
    We had a group of 7 going around bashing everyone it's so fun

    And then everyone got mad :(

    yeah, maybe because you classless tools were doing it to people duelling or watching duels...
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  • Perphection
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Subtomik wrote: »
    We had a group of 7 going around bashing everyone it's so fun

    And then everyone got mad :(

    yeah, maybe because you classless tools were doing it to people duelling or watching duels...

    I didn't know ESO had dueling... Mind blown!
  • hammayolettuce
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    Grim13 wrote: »
    Subtomik wrote: »
    We had a group of 7 going around bashing everyone it's so fun

    And then everyone got mad :(

    yeah, maybe because you classless tools were doing it to people duelling or watching duels...

    I didn't know ESO had dueling... Mind blown!

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