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So Immovable will provide no more CC immunity ???

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Immovable

Immovable now grants the buffs Major Resolve and Major Ward. Each additional rank of this ability increases the duration of the buffs by 0.5 seconds.

Increased the cost of this ability by 13% for all ranks and morphs.

Immovable Brute (morph): This ability no longer increases melee damage. Instead, in reduces the cost of CC break for each piece of heavy armor equipped while this ability is slotted in the activity bar.
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  • loki547
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    The short answer? Nope. No more cc immunity for you!
  • ToRelax
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    I guess it will provide cc immunity, it rather sounds as if they tried to make the ability worthwhile for heavy armor users as well.
    Edited by ToRelax on 27 January 2015 19:33
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  • Observant
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    Doesn't HA already get a break free cost passive?
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  • Asgari
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    Observant wrote: »
    Doesn't HA already get a break free cost passive?

    It's to be stacked with heavy armor passive to make break free cost nothing and can't be used by LA and MA.
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  • Domander
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    Princess_Asgari wrote: »
    Observant wrote: »
    Doesn't HA already get a break free cost passive?

    It's to be stacked with heavy armor passive to make break free cost nothing and can't be used by LA and MA.

    wrong, they removed the passive.


    Juggernaut: This passive now grants a 0.5% increase in max health per piece of heavy armor worn. All other bonuses on this passive have been removed.
    Edited by Domander on 27 January 2015 20:06
  • Darklord_Tiberius
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    Only thing I can say is learn to roll dodge correctly and get out of red circles lol. Phoenix Rising stopped using this skill in our raid builds 6 months ago... If we can roll without it, everyone can.
  • Erock25
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    I think immovable still grants the CC immunity. They only write about what has changed and if it isn't mentioned, it is the same. For example the above juggernaut passive description where they go out of the way to say the other passives have been removed.
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  • Asgari
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    Even if it's removed from the passive you can still stack it with arena. I never used immovable so doesn't bother me lol
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  • Domander
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    I think immovable still grants the CC immunity. They only write about what has changed and if it isn't mentioned, it is the same. For example the above juggernaut passive description where they go out of the way to say the other passives have been removed.


    we will see I guess

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    Edited by Domander on 27 January 2015 20:15
  • Erock25
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    Domander wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    I think immovable still grants the CC immunity. They only write about what has changed and if it isn't mentioned, it is the same. For example the above juggernaut passive description where they go out of the way to say the other passives have been removed.

    Why would an ability make break free cost less and also provide CC immunity?

    Because that is just while it is slotted, so even if you forget to keep immovable up, at least it still reduces your cost to break out.
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  • Domander
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Domander wrote: »
    Erock25 wrote: »
    I think immovable still grants the CC immunity. They only write about what has changed and if it isn't mentioned, it is the same. For example the above juggernaut passive description where they go out of the way to say the other passives have been removed.

    Why would an ability make break free cost less and also provide CC immunity?

    Because that is just while it is slotted, so even if you forget to keep immovable up, at least it still reduces your cost to break out.

    True.
    Edited by Domander on 27 January 2015 20:22
  • Gargragrond
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    Too bad, the break free cost reduction of heavy armor was it's major selling point, and I was under the impression that heavy was going to get buffed, not nerfed.
    I see the cost reduction is now in immovable slottable passive, but I guess you'd have to slot that into both bars (as you usually get stunned while swapping weapons when you can't block), so it's not really useful. Time to switch to light or medium? :p
  • timidobserver
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    It still gives CC immunity. Those other changes are just in addition to that.
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  • danno8
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    Notice they do not mention Unstoppable. If it had any changes they would have listed it no?

    My bet is the CC immunity is still there or they would have said "This ability no longer provides CC immunity" like they have done for many other skills.
  • Cody
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    sounds like it could be stacked with HA break free passives...

    but oh wait, those got removed:(
  • rendolpheb16_ESO
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    Immovable still have hard CC immunity

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  • saintmurray
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    rendolpheb16_ESO wrote: »
    Immovable still have hard CC immunity

    http://imgur.com/adfwktY

    Oh thank god. Between CC break not working properly often and immovable not always working I feel like you need the option of both to stand a chance
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  • Lhorion
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    If it has still the immunity: Why a morph that decreases cost of CC-Break?
  • Lhorion
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    P.S.: My fault. The decreased cost is while slotted not while used.
  • Tripwyr
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    Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »
    Only thing I can say is learn to roll dodge correctly and get out of red circles lol. Phoenix Rising stopped using this skill in our raid builds 6 months ago... If we can roll without it, everyone can.

    I killed 5 members of your 20 member group the other day solo. Immovable is what sets good groups apart from the trash.
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    Tripwyr wrote: »
    Darklord_Tiberius wrote: »
    Only thing I can say is learn to roll dodge correctly and get out of red circles lol. Phoenix Rising stopped using this skill in our raid builds 6 months ago... If we can roll without it, everyone can.

    I killed 5 members of your 20 member group the other day solo. Immovable is what sets good groups apart from the trash.

    Them boys go down faster than a fresh stack of hot cakes.
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  • sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO
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    rendolpheb16_ESO wrote: »
    Heavy

    Immovable

    Immovable now grants the buffs Major Resolve and Major Ward. Each additional rank of this ability increases the duration of the buffs by 0.5 seconds.

    Increased the cost of this ability by 13% for all ranks and morphs.

    Immovable Brute (morph): This ability no longer increases melee damage. Instead, in reduces the cost of CC break for each piece of heavy armor equipped while this ability is slotted in the activity bar.

    good be waiting for them to nerf this broke crap for months
  • Kas
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    phew, good thing it isn't changed. imho immovable and damage shields are the sole reason not every single build has to be perma-block.
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Few things. One doesn't effect me since I unstoppable. Second they wouldn't have to make these changes if they simple required a player to use 5 pieces of said armor to use said skill in the very start. 3rdly isn't so bad there's a heavy armor passive skill that reduces break free cost by like 20% or 25% so stack that with immoveable brute and CC wont be draining your stamina.......Oh wait that's right light armor wearers use this skill to ( either though it's the heavy armor skill ) so they wont get that lovely stack boost. Well then you LA players better get some new boots or gauntlets then.
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