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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

"Tab-targeting/stealth" is broken.

bg22
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I don't know if this has been brought up. But when a enemy player has your character "tab-targeted" whereas he's pressed tab to highlight your character in a white box, even if you break line of sight, AND are a great distance away, you cannot return to "Hidden". This also includes players you have killed (until they respawn). Please fix this.

If I manage to break Line of Sight, I should be able to go back into a "hidden" state in roughly 5 seconds.
Edited by bg22 on 20 May 2014 16:53
  • Liquid_Time
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    "If I manage to break Line of Sight, I should instantly be able to go back into a "hidden" state"

    ^^^ Yes or at the very least enable a 5-10 second timer that requires the line of site to be broken for that length of time in order to be hidden again.
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  • bg22
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    I will edit my OP to say 5 seconds. Because that seems fair, in my opinion.
  • Liquid_Time
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    I feel that this is reasonable. +1
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  • Skafsgaard
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    Hmm, didnt knew - Id be sure to use that against the next nb who thinks he can get away!
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  • Nonamesbutmineub17_ESO
    Yes, I also see it work versus the NB invisibility skill. needs to be fixed
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    I am against this unless the current stealth system is changed.

    There is no way I should have to be within 3 meters of a stealthed character in order to see them. Sure you may be crouching, but in a completely open area with no obstructions, I should be able to see you if you are standing right in front of me. Also, if I attack you, and you run away with me chasing right behind you, you should not be able to crouch and turn invisible when you are literally right in front of me. It is complete crap and immersion breaking. Fix this, and then I will be able to live with the tab target thing going away from stealthed players.
  • Thrymbauld
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    The current stealth system doesn't need to be changed, it's already one of the tamest stealth systems an MMO has offered. Realism doesn't have a whole lot of merit.

    Also magelight, if you've really got a problem with seeing stealthers. It sees things that you can't ordinarily see.

    And...also invisibility. It's not stealth, it's outright invisibility. A genuine, honest to goodness invisibility spell making people invisible in a game with the existence of magic shouldn't exactly be immersion breaking. Cover is not a factor in this, and yet the NB remains targeted. To not be able to break combat with an ability like this leaves it inherently broken.

    The OP is suggesting breaking line of sight causing a loss of sight. You'd think the fact that this isn't the case would be much more immersion breaking, considering that you can see something that you can't actually see---if I'm fifty feet away from you and behind a tree/fifty foot wall/tower, you really mean to tell me that I shouldn't be able to be unseen because THAT is immersion breaking?

    And....if that's not enough, and we just HAVE to believe that people can't really go unseen that close to another person, do a search for ghillie suit. Real stealthers, in the real world, can be three feet away from you without being seen. Having a game side manifestation of this isn't that much of a stretch.
  • morvegil
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    Wtf....so is this why I can't stealth for 3 minutes when I'm miles away from a battle.I just ran away from?
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  • Cody
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    I am against this unless the current stealth system is changed.

    There is no way I should have to be within 3 meters of a stealthed character in order to see them. Sure you may be crouching, but in a completely open area with no obstructions, I should be able to see you if you are standing right in front of me. Also, if I attack you, and you run away with me chasing right behind you, you should not be able to crouch and turn invisible when you are literally right in front of me. It is complete crap and immersion breaking. Fix this, and then I will be able to live with the tab target thing going away from stealthed players.

    When I am hiding behind a tree, or a huge rock, with LOS broken, I expect to be in stealth in roughly 5 seconds. I don't expect this game to be like Hitman, or splinter cell, or the first few Assassins creed games, but I do expect some common sense when it come's to stealth.
    Edited by Cody on 7 January 2015 00:20
  • Chesimac
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    morvegil wrote: »
    Wtf....so is this why I can't stealth for 3 minutes when I'm miles away from a battle.I just ran away from?

    NPCS can see for miles
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