Regarding shield stacking

bosmern_ESO · October 2014

Just wanted to know if its not working as intended and ZoS is planning on making some changes to it, and if its considered and exploit. Not to mention 95% of the Sorcerers I see have a shield through their entire health.

I, as a Stamina build am against shield stacking in every-way, mainly because its almost impossible for a stamina build currently to hit through it. I hope that it gets changed to having only one shield available to a player, and the largest takes priority.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO · October 2014

It is so op.

My main is a NB sneaky assassin type but recently I have leveled up a sorc to V1 and you can just run around without a worry and do your stuff. If you sustain any damage you have done something really stupid.

It is soo easy you have no idea.

OP... naaaaa.

Sleep · October 2014

My sorcerer is in the other 5%

Ezareth · October 2014

Shield stacking is in no way an exploit. Harness magicka was nerfed and if you're doing physical damage to a Sorc they wont be able to infinitely stack shields on you.

Additionally *all* shields are currently bugged so that if you recast them they do not refresh the shield values until the shield is completely pierced.

The best abilities to use on a sorc stacking shields as a Nightblade are Crit Charge.

Araxleon has an instructional post in the alliance war forums for his dual wield build that is *very* effective at stripping away shields on his targets.

Merlin13KAGL · October 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Shield stacking is in no way an exploit. Harness magicka was nerfed and if you're doing physical damage to a Sorc they wont be able to infinitely stack shields on you.

Additionally *all* shields are currently bugged so that if you recast them they do not refresh the shield values until the shield is completely pierced.

Agreed HM protects from spell damage only.

The refresh is supposed to be fixed with 1.5

Cody · October 2014

I think it is annoying as heck, but there are other things that need to be fixed first(block and spam, for example)

Blackthorn51 · November 2014

Shield stacking quite frankly needs to go the hell away. I've tried so many different combinations of skills to bust through shields and they never, ever work. I pump 2400 points worth of stamina attacks, 1500 points worth of magic attacks and do absolutely zero damage on some shield stackers. *** today I lethal arrowed an unsuspecting target for 7 damage. 7 ******* damage.

Balance much?

Rune_Relic · November 2014

Blackthorn51 wrote: »

Shield stacking quite frankly needs to go the hell away. I've tried so many different combinations of skills to bust through shields and they never, ever work. I pump 2400 points worth of stamina attacks, 1500 points worth of magic attacks and do absolutely zero damage on some shield stackers. *** today I lethal arrowed an unsuspecting target for 7 damage. 7 ******* damage.

Balance much?

Perhaps they phase shifted

Luvsfuzzybunnies · November 2014

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Blackthorn51 wrote: »

Shield stacking quite frankly needs to go the hell away. I've tried so many different combinations of skills to bust through shields and they never, ever work. I pump 2400 points worth of stamina attacks, 1500 points worth of magic attacks and do absolutely zero damage on some shield stackers. *** today I lethal arrowed an unsuspecting target for 7 damage. 7 ******* damage.

Balance much?

Perhaps they phase shifted

I lol'd.

Nerouyn · November 2014

Blackthorn51 wrote: »

Shield stacking quite frankly needs to go the hell away. I've tried so many different combinations of skills to bust through shields and they never, ever work. I pump 2400 points worth of stamina attacks, 1500 points worth of magic attacks and do absolutely zero damage on some shield stackers. *** today I lethal arrowed an unsuspecting target for 7 damage. 7 ******* damage.

Balance much?

Might be perfectly balanced.

Maybe you spent all that stamina and magicka trying to break their shields and they spent a roughly equivalent amount putting them up.

Ezareth · November 2014

Nerouyn wrote: »

Blackthorn51 wrote: »

Shield stacking quite frankly needs to go the hell away. I've tried so many different combinations of skills to bust through shields and they never, ever work. I pump 2400 points worth of stamina attacks, 1500 points worth of magic attacks and do absolutely zero damage on some shield stackers. *** today I lethal arrowed an unsuspecting target for 7 damage. 7 ******* damage.

Balance much?

Might be perfectly balanced.

Maybe you spent all that stamina and magicka trying to break their shields and they spent a roughly equivalent amount putting them up.

Bingo. We have a winner.

bosmern_ESO · November 2014

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Nerouyn wrote: »

Blackthorn51 wrote: »

Shield stacking quite frankly needs to go the hell away. I've tried so many different combinations of skills to bust through shields and they never, ever work. I pump 2400 points worth of stamina attacks, 1500 points worth of magic attacks and do absolutely zero damage on some shield stackers. *** today I lethal arrowed an unsuspecting target for 7 damage. 7 ******* damage.

Balance much?

Might be perfectly balanced.

Maybe you spent all that stamina and magicka trying to break their shields and they spent a roughly equivalent amount putting them up.

Bingo. We have a winner.

Yea, but you have to take into consideration that 90% of the time they are blocking which reduces damage on them by like 70-85%. You go from originally hitting 300-500 on their shields all the way down to hitting 40-90.

Tuttebel · November 2014

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

ezareth_ESO wrote: »

Nerouyn wrote: »

Blackthorn51 wrote: »

Shield stacking quite frankly needs to go the hell away. I've tried so many different combinations of skills to bust through shields and they never, ever work. I pump 2400 points worth of stamina attacks, 1500 points worth of magic attacks and do absolutely zero damage on some shield stackers. *** today I lethal arrowed an unsuspecting target for 7 damage. 7 ******* damage.

Balance much?

Might be perfectly balanced.

Maybe you spent all that stamina and magicka trying to break their shields and they spent a roughly equivalent amount putting them up.

Bingo. We have a winner.

Yea, but you have to take into consideration that 90% of the time they are blocking which reduces damage on them by like 70-85%. You go from originally hitting 300-500 on their shields all the way down to hitting 40-90.

No.

Blocking or damage mitigation has no effect whatsoever on shields.
You keep hitting them for the full value of your attacks.

In general, shields are working just fine.

People keep crying about shieldstacking while impenetrable applies to both spells and melee hits. The day I have to choose between a shield against melee or against spells is the day you should choose between impenetrable or spell resistance.

Davadin · November 2014

So i dont get it. What is harness magicka? how does one "stack shield"?

I'm currently rocking a stamina build now, and would like to know,
1. can i copy the same stacking. would be super awesome to be able to tank without taking damage.
2. for a bow/2H users, what's the best way to deal with it?
3. is it more for light armor/magicka users only?