Refining drop rates changed after patch 1.4?

Kuratla · September 2014

How has people's experiences been with refining raw mats since patch 1.4?

Mine have been very very low, like getting a single grain solvent from refining 400+ iron ore. And others in my guilds have noted low returns as well. Last night, 100+ orich ore, 40 void ore and another 100+ iron ore yielded just one grain solvent.

Is this wide spread? Or has my RNG just been bad lately?

I'd like to know because if it is a bug or an intentional nerf, then I'm certainly not going to buy raw mats anymore.... or, at least, not at current prices. If this is true, raw mat prices are going to plummet so this is an economic issue.

seanolan · September 2014

There has been much discussion of the patch having tied material refinement to character level. Dunno, but my v12 is getting improvement mats from refining ores like a bandit lately

Kuratla · September 2014

I thought that was deconning, not refinement. Maybe both.

But the character I did all that ore refining with is also v12.

Takeda_Shingen · September 2014

It seems they have changed the drop rate from refinement nothing smart on this, making harder the life for the crafters. (v12)

springbound · September 2014

I have been getting plenty of mats from metal but my extraction rate on cloth is a disaster 1 dreugh wax in the last 1200. I used to get 1 every 150 to 300 refined.

Cody · September 2014

well... better save up some gold......:(

Zosia · September 2014

springbound wrote: »

I have been getting plenty of mats from metal but my extraction rate on cloth is a disaster 1 dreugh wax in the last 1200. I used to get 1 every 150 to 300 refined.

That's weird, I invested three points in Unraveling and got 7 Dreugh Waxes from around 350 cloth and 200 hide. Maybe RNG just loves me and hates you?

Aside from that quote, what I'm trying to say is, our control sample is too small to give accurate results. I'm very content with what I'm getting from refinement, some may get a lot less or a lot more.

Ashtaris · September 2014

One thing I commented to the wife about last night was a perceived drop in deconstructing experience. I have a fairly new character (my others a VR6 Sorc and VR3 DK) that is at level 11 clothier crafting level. It seemed that when I was at the same point with my other characters when you deconstructed something you would see a very noticeable jump in your skill level. It would start slowing down when you got up to level 20 or so. Now the bar barely seems to move when deconstructing. Maybe I'm just imaging things, but it sure seems that crafting has taken a nerf.

SpAEkus · September 2014

Crafting has not taken a nerf per se, with the new (original) crafting changes, there are IP penalties whenever the crafting skill is lower than the level of the material involved.

The penalties are different at varying levels of skill-material mismatch but appear to clear up at a certain skill level.

Take a look at my results from last night to see an example here:

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Kuratla · September 2014

Refining rates, for me anyway, seem to be back to normal. I'm getting golds every 100 - 150 raw mats refined these days. Must have just been horrible RNG when I got 1 purple from 400+ ore.

Asgari · September 2014

It got better for me. For example today:

600 raw clothing mats = 60 tries

60 Tries - 14 hemming, 12 embroidery, 4 elegant lining, 7 dreugh wax

This is a bit above what i usually get dreugh wise but fairly close to when i do my every couple days of refining.

neueregel · September 2014

I refined ~600 voidstone ore the other day. I didnt get one temp alloy... I never get that many to begin with, but this was really bad. It is all random though...

springbound · September 2014

I agree something is just wrong with the RNG on these since the patch. I haven't gotten a Rosin in weeks. I am a master crafter in wood with full extraction and had to buy mats 2 days ago because I am not getting any Rosin...the dreugh wax has gotten a little better. But in the past 2 days I have gone through over 2000 pieces of wood and not 1 rosin. Starting to wonder if spending points in this stuff is doing any good.

daswahnsinn · September 2014

I did 200 voidstones, which I know isn't a lot, and got one honing stone and three dwarven oils. I think the drop rate has been lowered. The last week before the patch with that amount I would have gotten at least one or two solvents. But more people could be refining hoping to find Nirncrux.