i made a necklace that had increase "light" 100% that gave me sight, i used those boots prety much the entire 15 years i played morrowind.

but what we had with the speed stacking was almost perfection and as close to those boots as i can see, i had nothing but pure fun and a great time wearing those boots and eso with that stacked speed was an exact fit for me as close to wearing those boots as i could get, made me feel as if i was almost in morrowind.
with the removal of that speed im addicted to and not even skooma to replace the existing speeds then i am basicly in depresion state and morrowicamotoast.

I know. We are all still struggling with our grief over this.

I am moving towards the acceptance stage at this point though.

We're not getting it back. ZOS has no intention of listening to player feedback on this or really any other issue, unless it's to nerf things I guess. I'm a bit confused as to why they listened to the small portion of the playerbase whining to begin with.

But they've lied about the whole thing several times already, and just generally stomped all over integrity in the process. I'd struggle to believe it if they said they were changing it at this point.

Okay maybe I'm still at the anger stage.

How about when you could create items so you could levitate, I remember I use to fly over mountains and I use to blast enemies from the air.

Surfinginhawaii wrote: »

How about when you could create items so you could levitate, I remember I use to fly over mountains and I use to blast enemies from the air.

metoo

please explain how having high speeds "Outside" of combat have any "Over Poweredness"
mingled with and in addition to and allowing and insisting that pvp skills like "Bolt Escape", and Most of the Dargonight" skills and the bitting and sweeping jabs are NOT considered "Over powered"
im listening, please share this with the class

It's not sneaking when you are moving almost at a running pace, and though it may be personal opinion, I reserve my right to have it, and I can handle people disagreeing, although to date the only defense is it's magic and/or it's a game.

Game though it is, I do not believe a racial enhancement should stack with physical set bonuses unless they state clearly they should, like critical bonuses or damage bonuses. Anymore than someone should be able to spam Bolt Escape and achieve the same thing. It's like thinking a vampire can feed using a sword. Clearly they are using fangs, and weapons would have no effect on their ability to feed, except perhaps to make it very messy and lose most of the benefit.

And all things in the game are subject to discussion regarding their being OP, whether combat related or not. OP is not strictly speaking combat only power. I refer to the entirety of the class(es). Just because it's not clearly a combat related power does not mean it has no uses that can effect combat.

oh and by the way @Probitas you still did not tell us how that speed we had was in any way at all overpowered or how it was doing any harm or breaking any kind of rules in elderscrolls online, if you do however find an answer to the question we are asking then Please by all means do share it with the class as we are listening very closely.

you reverted to calling me a 2 year old and acuse me of stamping my foot and still give no answer to the question that was asked.
you do realize that reverting to those tactics shows you infact do not have a ligitimate answer to the fairly and politely asked question?

Probitas wrote: »

OMG, drama much?

It's like talking to a two year old. Stamp your foot too?

I for one do not like the idea of a bunch of vamps using high speed stealth to zerg into combat. Or out of it if they can manage to turn invis and pop the sneak. Balance dictates that other players must also have the option to achieve the same effect even if not a vamp, or something that can counter that to prevent it. The reason there are so many damn vamps in PvP is purely DUE to such imbalances, whether you can accept it as defined as OP or not.

You're fooling yourself if you think that other classes should be able to move as quickly as a vampire can. There are differences among the classes for a reason. Also don't just be another complainer that lacks the imagination to be able to figure out how to get around such a small thing. And for the record, my kind already suffer enough from this abundant fire abuse you mortals use to combat us. Don't call for a nerf because we have the natural balance and speed to allow us the chance to avoid such a mundane offense.

Vampires Rule!

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

oh and by the way @Probitas you still did not tell us how that speed we had was in any way at all overpowered or how it was doing any harm or breaking any kind of rules in elderscrolls online, if you do however find an answer to the question we are asking then Please by all means do share it with the class as we are listening very closely.

You arrive at the next battle, having been stealthed the entire way...everyone else required to mount a non-stealthed horse?

I can see where there would be no difference between these two things.

And as far as Morrowind was concerned, all you had to do was cast a Dispel Magic. The blindness would go away, the speed boost would stay.

Ethromelb14_ESO wrote: »

Probitas wrote: »

OMG, drama much?

It's like talking to a two year old. Stamp your foot too?

I for one do not like the idea of a bunch of vamps using high speed stealth to zerg into combat. Or out of it if they can manage to turn invis and pop the sneak. Balance dictates that other players must also have the option to achieve the same effect even if not a vamp, or something that can counter that to prevent it. The reason there are so many damn vamps in PvP is purely DUE to such imbalances, whether you can accept it as defined as OP or not.

You're fooling yourself if you think that other classes should be able to move as quickly as a vampire can. There are differences among the classes for a reason. Also don't just be another complainer that lacks the imagination to be able to figure out how to get around such a small thing. And for the record, my kind already suffer enough from this abundant fire abuse you mortals use to combat us. Don't call for a nerf because we have the natural balance and speed to allow us the chance to avoid such a mundane offense.

Vampires Rule!

I love you. Join my guild! LOL

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

oh and by the way @Probitas you still did not tell us how that speed we had was in any way at all overpowered or how it was doing any harm or breaking any kind of rules in elderscrolls online, if you do however find an answer to the question we are asking then Please by all means do share it with the class as we are listening very closely.

You arrive at the next battle, having been stealthed the entire way...everyone else required to mount a non-stealthed horse?

I can see where there would be no difference between these two things.

i agree, our class IS supposed to be in stealth, your is not. i dont see a problem there.

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

There are also the PvE imbalances that that kind of speed can produce. Such as resource harvesting in complete (relatively) safety faster than I can sprint between resources.

just cast bolt escape in that case. problem solved

You want to travel relatively safely, quickly, and heck, even do damage? just cast bolt escape in that case. problem solved.

You want to play a rogue, but find you cannot move to target fast enough after the NS nerf? Reroll a sorc and just cast bolt escape in that case. problem solved.

You want to be op in PvP, and don't like rogues effectively sneaking up on you? Want to nerf that playstyle? Give vamps a bad name, and just cast bolt escape in that case. problem solved.

youve got me totaly wrong here, i am IN FAVOR of having the increased speeds as a vampire, im not the one asking for the nerf, im the one very angry that our speed was taken away.
it was both uncalled for and never a problem to anyone, my comment refering to bolt escape meant that other classes CAN use speed but we cannot. (as nightblades)