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NB Incapacitating Strike Bugged [Dmg scaling]
Wahee
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After some extensive testing I have confirmed that the NB skill incapacitating strike's damage scaling is bugged or the tooltip is completely wrong.
The tooltip states that as ultimate increases the skill's base damage increases up to 275%.
I tested this thoroughly and found that the skill starts at base 50 ult and scales to its maximum at roughly 200 ult. Damage caps out at 200 ult and is the same from 200-1,000.
Here's where things get weird though. At 600 base dmg, 275% should make for a 1650 base hit. The skill actually hits for roughly 1400-1500 on a crit, far below what the maximum damage should be. In fact, that 1400-1500 crit is the damage that results from from a base hit of roughly 875 (50% plus 10% nightblade passive). Oddly enough, 600 + 275 is 875. Imagine that.
TLDR:
What this means is, Incapacitating strike isn't scaling up to 275% at all. As ult rises between 50 and 200 a value of up to 275 flat damage is added to the tooltip damage. The highest hit you'll ever get out of incapacitating strike is [tooltip dmg + 275 x crit multiplier].
Without critting the highest it will ever hit is tooltip + 275.
Try it yourself and see. This is either a horribly wrong tooltip or someone put some bad math into the skill's scaling.
...the more you know
Edited by Wahee on 8 September 2014 06:36 The tooltip states that as ultimate increases the skill's base damage increases up to 275%.
I tested this thoroughly and found that the skill starts at base 50 ult and scales to its maximum at roughly 200 ult. Damage caps out at 200 ult and is the same from 200-1,000.
Here's where things get weird though. At 600 base dmg, 275% should make for a 1650 base hit. The skill actually hits for roughly 1400-1500 on a crit, far below what the maximum damage should be. In fact, that 1400-1500 crit is the damage that results from from a base hit of roughly 875 (50% plus 10% nightblade passive). Oddly enough, 600 + 275 is 875. Imagine that.
TLDR:
What this means is, Incapacitating strike isn't scaling up to 275% at all. As ult rises between 50 and 200 a value of up to 275 flat damage is added to the tooltip damage. The highest hit you'll ever get out of incapacitating strike is [tooltip dmg + 275 x crit multiplier].
Without critting the highest it will ever hit is tooltip + 275.
Try it yourself and see. This is either a horribly wrong tooltip or someone put some bad math into the skill's scaling.
...the more you know
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irrelevant I noticed tonight the vamp poison mist tool tip had changed. It used to read dmg every .5 seconds. It only ticked 3 times in the 4 sec(ish) duration though. The tool tip now read does damg every 1.5 seconds...Edited by TheBull on 8 September 2014 06:40Killed by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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aco5712✭✭✭✭✭For one, I'm glad that it's made this way. Yes the tool tip definetly needs to be changed to reflect what it does but can you imagine if this skill actually scaled properly. You can hit for 2k+ with it, imagine with that bonus scaling
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Wahee✭✭✭For one, I'm glad that it's made this way. Yes the tool tip definetly needs to be changed to reflect what it does but can you imagine if this skill actually scaled properly. You can hit for 2k+ with it, imagine with that bonus scaling
I agree, kind of. Keep in mind though that in PvP you will very rarely crit as everyone is using impen armor. A non-crit incapacitating strike with max scaling will hit a player for about 850ish. A single target hit for 850 is pretty wimpy for 200 ult. That's more of a comment on impen though.Mostly Harmless: PvP leader and officer
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I read the tooltip and always figured it only hit 275% damage at 1000 ultimate(never bothered testing it), which would make the skill far from good.For one, I'm glad that it's made this way. Yes the tool tip definitely needs to be changed to reflect what it does but can you imagine if this skill actually scaled properly. You can hit for 2k+ with it, imagine with that bonus scaling
I think It's kind of a gimmicky ultimate compared to soul tether or Veil of blades.
Nightblades have very good ultimates, but this doesn't seem like one of them.
Even if it worked properly It still wouldn't make it onto my skillbar, it just doesn't provide enough utility when compared to the other Nightblade ultimates
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✭forthewinn2 wrote: »Does anyone like using death stroke?
Under what situations would you prefer it over Veil of blades or soul Tether?
For single target. So, Ambush, Soul Harvest, Impale, Impale. You'll likely have Soul Harvest back up again at this point as the target is dead.
If it's a DK I'll put a Shadowy Disguise in before the Soul Harvest to make sure I get a 2k crit (I have 30% weapon crit in light armour with two daggers so I have 130% chance to crit, no amount of impenetrable can stop that being a crit).
So that's a 800+ from stealth Ambush, 1.8k-2k Soul Harvest crit then around 800 to 1k for a single Impale.
My health is 3000, my magicka is 2450 and I can't remember my spell damage but it's pretty high.
Only other time I can do damage like that is with a stealth snipe, light attack, venom arrow spam kill with my stamina bow build.
In this magic build I mentioned, my weapon swap is to a sword and shield, on that bar I will likely have Veil or Tether (normally Veil).Edited by CapuchinSeven on 9 September 2014 10:210