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NBs - DONT USE AXES!

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Duukar
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Currently axes bleed effect from Dual Blade and Blunt removes the 36% damage bonus from Ambush.

I tested and confirmed this and have submitted a bug report.

This is a real bug, please don't use axes if you rely on Ambush providing a boost to DPS as a DWer.

How it works - The first attack from stealth applies a 36% damage bonus to the follow up attack as per normal. Upon landing a swing or weapon ability the target begins to bleed and you will notice ambush no longer applies any damage bonus at all.


I have deconned my axes and made swords and everything is back to working normally. A costly problem as you can imagine. That's 4 purple deadric weapons with 4 legendary weapon glyphs down the tubes. Learn from my mistakes please!

Duuk
  • Soliss
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    Yup, I've known this for a while. It used to be that the axe bleed ticks would drop you out of Dark Cloak also. Since I've stopped using axes, I haven't bothered to check this again to see if it's been fixed.
  • Duukar
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    Having known this for a while I assume you posted on the boards about it? Not to be rude but you could have saved me ALOT of gold and wasted time. Once again I learn the hard way to google any items or changes to my build BEFORE I do the work.

    Full set of Arena made 2 months ago.. Such a blunder which really hurt my bank!

    Duuk
  • TheBucket
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    Soliss wrote: »
    Yup, I've known this for a while. It used to be that the axe bleed ticks would drop you out of Dark Cloak also. Since I've stopped using axes, I haven't bothered to check this again to see if it's been fixed.

    Not true.

    I've been using axes for two months in my bleed spec. It does not break shadow cloak.
    William Reignes
    Magic Nightblade - Rogue Bomber
    Creator of Thirsty Thief Build (Retired 1.5)
  • Soliss
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    No sorry, I don't post everything on the forums. According to the green ZOS name badges, they seem to discourage you from posting bugs on the forums and want you to use the /bug feature in the game.

    I believe I did submit a bug report for this. It's really hard to keep track of all the things I've /bug'd in game that have never been fixed.

    The forums are supposed to be a happy place where everything works.
  • Duukar
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    But you will notice the bleed blocks the ambush damage bonus. Months of running a broken spec? Imagine what you could do without that self induced nerf to Ambush follow up DPS...
  • Soliss
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    I don't think bleed blocks the bonus, it's just that the ambush bonus damage is being applied to the bleed. Or in some cases, poison dot tick, burning dot tick etc. I mean it may seem like it's "blocking" it, but it's redirecting it to a piece of damage didn't want it applied to.

    The game is full of problematic things that occur because of the order in which Zenimax applies effects.
  • CapuchinSeven
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    Soliss wrote: »
    I don't think bleed blocks the bonus, it's just that the ambush bonus damage is being applied to the bleed.

    This, it's not that it doesn't work, it just ticks off the bleed. Honestly the way this game is, I wouldn't expect a fix.
  • TheBucket
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    Duukar wrote: »
    But you will notice the bleed blocks the ambush damage bonus. Months of running a broken spec? Imagine what you could do without that self induced nerf to Ambush follow up DPS...

    Heh, Who says you have to use ambush? :) Two flying blades in a Stamina BUild do just as much dps as one ambush in about the same amount of time. Not to mention it's from range.
    William Reignes
    Magic Nightblade - Rogue Bomber
    Creator of Thirsty Thief Build (Retired 1.5)
  • CapuchinSeven
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    TheBucket wrote: »
    Duukar wrote: »
    But you will notice the bleed blocks the ambush damage bonus. Months of running a broken spec? Imagine what you could do without that self induced nerf to Ambush follow up DPS...

    Heh, Who says you have to use ambush? :) Two flying blades in a Stamina BUild do just as much dps as one ambush in about the same amount of time. Not to mention it's from range.

    Two Flying Blades won't line you up for a +30% damage Soul Harvest though.
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