Dawnbreaker NA - Reloaded

Avidus · July 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

It's much more effective when you sneak the oil as they push, after you negate their ults

Even more effective when you are in a box.

runagate · July 2014

When the box is full of velour capes and other silk clothing it's a closet you are oil farming in.

Avidus · July 2014

runagate wrote: »

When the box is full of velour capes and other silk clothing it's a closet you are oil farming in.

Hey man, Who doesn't enjoy a dark oil filled closet full of people you met on the internet.

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

Avidus wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

When the box is full of velour capes and other silk clothing it's a closet you are oil farming in.

Hey man, Who doesn't enjoy a dark oil filled closet full of people you met on the internet.

errrrrr....

runagate · July 2014

Avidus wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

When the box is full of velour capes and other silk clothing it's a closet you are oil farming in.

Hey man, Who doesn't enjoy a dark oil filled closet full of people you met on the internet.

The boring. Rumspringa!

Can anyone tell me the name of the AD player whose name is long and vaguely Polynesian-sounding name like Halaualalei or something like that?

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

Gotta love all the purple wabba guesters AP farming on DB and screwing over the map. ZOS should seriously just disable guesting

Braidas · July 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

Gotta love all the purple wabba guesters AP farming on DB and screwing over the map. ZOS should seriously just disable guesting

They kind of are w/ 1.3. 24/7 tri-pop-locked 30 day campaign.

GRxKnight · July 2014

Well guess what campaign is ruined...awesome job Purple

Darkmage1337 · July 2014

GRxKnight wrote: »

Well guess what campaign is ruined...awesome job Purple

Yup, It was totally purple. Tell that to the 10k lead Blue has on Red, and the 15k lead Blue has on Yellow. Maybe if Yellow spouted some action at Rayles & Warden from time to time. It'd be different, no? Lol. Alas, keep the AP coming to our AP-farmers at any of our keeps. ^_^ Y'all Yellow and your puggies know our bloodthirst will never end.
Hence, -Blood for the Pact.

GRxKnight · July 2014

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

Braidas · July 2014

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

Dethroning EP seems kind of pointless as they'll just have a diff guy w/ former emp buffs by the morning.

GRxKnight · July 2014

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

Dethroning EP seems kind of pointless as they'll just have a diff guy w/ former emp buffs by the morning.

Yup...which leaves AD to get their scrolls back, which will just get taken back that same morning as well...so there's really no point in AD trying to do anything unless we suddenly don't require sleep and can play 24 hours a day to stop the oceanic crew from doing their thing, as well as contend with both faction's A sqauds (Agrippa and Bitiken/Fengrush). That's literally the only way that AD can do anything in this campaign aside from setting up AP farms and ganking. At least that's what their options are in the current state of this campaign.

Braidas · July 2014

GRxKnight wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

Dethroning EP seems kind of pointless as they'll just have a diff guy w/ former emp buffs by the morning.

Yup...which leaves AD to get their scrolls back, which will just get taken back that same morning as well...so there's really no point in AD trying to do anything unless we suddenly don't require sleep and can play 24 hours a day to stop the oceanic crew from doing their thing, as well as contend with both faction's A sqauds (Agrippa and Bitiken/Fengrush). That's literally the only way that AD can do anything in this campaign aside from setting up AP farms and ganking. At least that's what their options are in the current state of this campaign.

Or you can try to play better. It's not like you don't have the population. I remember someone saying way back in this thread that Agrippa's group got slapped around on BT and instead of leaving they eventually became decent players (I'll take your word for it, tho I refuse to acknowledge your fengrush comment).

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

Dethroning EP seems kind of pointless as they'll just have a diff guy w/ former emp buffs by the morning.

Yup...which leaves AD to get their scrolls back, which will just get taken back that same morning as well...so there's really no point in AD trying to do anything unless we suddenly don't require sleep and can play 24 hours a day to stop the oceanic crew from doing their thing, as well as contend with both faction's A sqauds (Agrippa and Bitiken/Fengrush). That's literally the only way that AD can do anything in this campaign aside from setting up AP farms and ganking. At least that's what their options are in the current state of this campaign.

Or you can try to play better. It's not like you don't have the population. I remember someone saying way back in this thread that Agrippa's group got slapped around on BT and instead of leaving they eventually became decent players (I'll take your word for it, tho I refuse to acknowledge your fengrush comment).

I don't find running around in a group of 60 spamming one button to be fun or meaningful pvp.

aksyong · July 2014

Agrippa's group doesn't run around with 60 people spamming one button. In fact, I don't see zergballs in DB. At most it's a full raid party.

GRxKnight · July 2014

The group of blue that was at Fare a few hours ago was a impulse spamming zergball...good job you can press a single button. Did you forget that you have 4 other skills on your bar and an ultimate besides impulse?

That kind of mindless PvP'ing doesn't take any skill and to be honest ruins the fun for PvP if all you fight is a button mashing opponent. It then is a contest of who has a better button mashing skill as opposed to who can outplay, outmaneuver, and position better in a fight, which, in my opinion, is what PvP should be about. But nope. There are always people who want to press the easy button in this game.

aksyong · July 2014

AFAIK my group does not impulse zerg. We might have 1 ~ 4 people using e-rings, but the rest of us uses better skills. I can't speak for everyone in my group as I live in GMT+8 time zone, where the server's prime time = my sleep/work time.

archon210 · July 2014

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

http://www.twitch.tv/archon210/c/4717176
You guys for some reason had people bleeding over to the west side. We pretty much just rolled through to the side you were sieging from and wiped you guys. As you can hear in the end of the video, our group wasn't even there to siege in the first place.

We didn't really plan on taking it because that red zerg was on and would crush us if we even attempted to take the keep. Here is a demonstration:
http://www.twitch.tv/archon210/c/4717250

Heres some more from tonight tho.

The three way fighting at Aleswell was fun:
http://www.twitch.tv/archon210/c/4717355

Next level sneak manuevers:
http://www.twitch.tv/archon210/c/4717375

bitaken · July 2014

aksyong wrote: »

AFAIK my group does not impulse zerg. We might have 1 ~ 4 people using e-rings, but the rest of us uses better skills. I can't speak for everyone in my group as I live in GMT+8 time zone, where the server's prime time = my sleep/work time.

Our "prime time" crew is nothing more than our daytime crew with a full raid group - and the comp changes daily - the premise and focus of the group never changes though, as I am sure you can agree that the basics don't change. We don't roll with specific builds / required skills - but do take inventory so we can ask if others can use X Y or Z to make sure we have enough of everything in the group - pulsar/ring - is not on the check list of things we have before we start rolling. Most of the time when enemy group X with a head count of 30+ gets rocked by 22 with zero kills by the 30+ they are going to cry that it was pulsar/ring one button wonder groups that rock them. Usually it's other abilities being used together that completely paralyze/terrorize/destroy them.

Rylana · July 2014

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

Dethroning EP seems kind of pointless as they'll just have a diff guy w/ former emp buffs by the morning.

Yup...which leaves AD to get their scrolls back, which will just get taken back that same morning as well...so there's really no point in AD trying to do anything unless we suddenly don't require sleep and can play 24 hours a day to stop the oceanic crew from doing their thing, as well as contend with both faction's A sqauds (Agrippa and Bitiken/Fengrush). That's literally the only way that AD can do anything in this campaign aside from setting up AP farms and ganking. At least that's what their options are in the current state of this campaign.

Or you can try to play better. It's not like you don't have the population. I remember someone saying way back in this thread that Agrippa's group got slapped around on BT and instead of leaving they eventually became decent players (I'll take your word for it, tho I refuse to acknowledge your fengrush comment).

oh please. play better?

Its hard enough getting even a couple of groups in AD to even cooperate in the first place, then you get into the ego issue of who should be doing what and why, and then you account for the bajillion useless pugs AD has that mindlessly feed AP farms over and over.

Frankly AD doesnt have a chance to do any of the above because AD is in its own little alliance war 3 way right now. Blue and Red dont even factor much compared to the infighting and intentional sabotage of plans.

Like that guy grabbing the scroll at Warden tonight when TKO was going to run and cap it. He just took off with it, ended up getting ganked and lost it, with no support.

We have like two decent groups right now, and one of them seems to have good day/bad day things going on, as in one day they do good, the next day they completely suck at everything they do. (sorry other guys, its true)

If AD could actually work together with that "massive population" you keep talking about, then maybe youd have a point, but really its just about 50 people on this side that even have an awareness of whats going on, and of those 50 fully half wont work together because "muh leaderboard rank"

Sad but true.

Sadly the only "good" fight I experienced tonight was the three way dance east of Aleswell at the resource. Otherwise it was a night of dumb. Pugs off everywhere, lack of numbers for the BRK siege, people trolling each other in zone for over an hour, etc etc. Blame game and nonsense.

Darkmage1337 · July 2014

@Rylana‌
Your honesty is appreciated.

It seems you only have one option left...
...to join the dark side...!

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

archon210 wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

http://www.twitch.tv/archon210/c/4717176
You guys for some reason had people bleeding over to the west side. We pretty much just rolled through to the side you were sieging from and wiped you guys. As you can hear in the end of the video, our group wasn't even there to siege in the first place.

We didn't really plan on taking it because that red zerg was on and would crush us if we even attempted to take the keep. Here is a demonstration:
http://www.twitch.tv/archon210/c/4717250

Heres some more from tonight tho.

The three way fighting at Aleswell was fun:
http://www.twitch.tv/archon210/c/4717355

Next level sneak manuevers:
http://www.twitch.tv/archon210/c/4717375

Nice try but we took our spot back not long after.

There are many EP farms like it, but this one is mine (all puns intended).

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

aksyong wrote: »

AFAIK my group does not impulse zerg. We might have 1 ~ 4 people using e-rings, but the rest of us uses better skills. I can't speak for everyone in my group as I live in GMT+8 time zone, where the server's prime time = my sleep/work time.

Our "prime time" crew is nothing more than our daytime crew with a full raid group - and the comp changes daily - the premise and focus of the group never changes though, as I am sure you can agree that the basics don't change. We don't roll with specific builds / required skills - but do take inventory so we can ask if others can use X Y or Z to make sure we have enough of everything in the group - pulsar/ring - is not on the check list of things we have before we start rolling. Most of the time when enemy group X with a head count of 30+ gets rocked by 22 with zero kills by the 30+ they are going to cry that it was pulsar/ring one button wonder groups that rock them. Usually it's other abilities being used together that completely paralyze/terrorize/destroy them.

It wasn't your group, it was Naw and Ali (look, more guesters!) and the only times I got caught by the train my recount was mostly pulsar with some talons and batswarm tossed in. AN entire raid of former emps, how cute.

bitaken · July 2014

Sabre was on DB last night?

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Sabre was on DB last night?

As in earlier tonight (or I guess last night, since it's morning, I have insomnia, w/e), several hours ago. Along with Naw and a whole bunch of other former emps, mostly DKs, doing a pulsar train on Faregyl grounds while the rest of DC was trying to hit arrius/chal/etc. Then they ran the last red scroll because... idk.

edit: they were not going for keep (which would open mnem), but AP farming out of, naturally, farm. Though we did have to clean them out when they got the wall down a couple times.

Magister_Aena · July 2014

Good fights last night, that threeway at Aleswell was pretty great. Best part of the day was when my group was able to to take an almost completely undefended Sejanus and Brindle. Ended up fighting my own faction for a bit over the scroll, there was a major miscommunication problem that botched it. Hopefully AD can get over its silly infighting and focus on beating purple

FENGRUSH · July 2014

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

Dethroning EP seems kind of pointless as they'll just have a diff guy w/ former emp buffs by the morning.

Yup...which leaves AD to get their scrolls back, which will just get taken back that same morning as well...so there's really no point in AD trying to do anything unless we suddenly don't require sleep and can play 24 hours a day to stop the oceanic crew from doing their thing, as well as contend with both faction's A sqauds (Agrippa and Bitiken/Fengrush). That's literally the only way that AD can do anything in this campaign aside from setting up AP farms and ganking. At least that's what their options are in the current state of this campaign.

Or you can try to play better. It's not like you don't have the population. I remember someone saying way back in this thread that Agrippa's group got slapped around on BT and instead of leaving they eventually became decent players (I'll take your word for it, tho I refuse to acknowledge your fengrush comment).

You can not refuse to acknowledge a higher power. Your denial is quite petty.

Aeradon · July 2014

GRxKnight wrote: »

Brandeospeedwagon wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

The three times that AD has gotten emp, blue and red seem to work together to dethrone that person. Yet when red gets emp, blue doesn't feel like letting yellow take it away. Same thing happens with yellow's home keeps. Red/Blue shows up to attack, yellow shows up to defend, Blue/Red shows up to help wipe yellow. That's as Purple as you can get...it feels like it's 2v1 the entire time we try to do anything.

So I'm pretty much done putting up with it and going to wait for 1.3 to drop before I PvP again.

Dethroning EP seems kind of pointless as they'll just have a diff guy w/ former emp buffs by the morning.

Bitiken

I'm sorry, but you spelt his name wrong.

It's - Bitaken the UNJUST

Edit: Sorry left out something newly added to the title.

Bitaken the UNJUST forum troll.

bitaken · July 2014

much love Leo

GRxKnight · July 2014

What Rylana said is true. AD has 3 groups or maybe even more that do not ever work together, and it seems that TKO is spent most of it's time playing hopscotch defending our keeps (when we have them), because we can't rely on any of the other groups doing that correctly. When we do finally decide to try and coordinate, it fails because one group bails out or doesn't follow through with the plan. AD definitely deserves to be at the bottom of this campaign. We have strong groups but it's too little too late at this point even if they do start working together.