Sorc and destro staff questions

tylerdavidsonb14_ESO · July 2014

I got a couple of questions that yall can hopefully answer.

first of all, Crushing Shock---does it deal all three types of damage or only the damage of the staff I am using?

Second - I can't tell which is better / more effective Liquid Lightening or Unstable wall of elements. ANd should I use fire or lightening staff for my wall of elements?

Lynx7386 · July 2014

Crushing shock does all 3 elemental damage types, doesnt matter what staff type you're using. It's very good when combined with the morph for weakness to elements that returns magicka whenever you deal elemental damage to the target, since it gives 3 times the return any other ability would.

As for wall of elements vs liquid lightning, I guess it's really up to you. I havent used liquid lightning so i have no experience with it, but wall of elements can sometimes be difficult to use due to positioning requirements. Impulse will probably be a better AoE choice than either.

Troponin · July 2014

If you look at the tooltip though, the icon changes based on the staff you're using. If you equip a fire staff, the icon goes to fire, if it's frost, the icon changes to frost. I have never seen an enemy get shocked or frozen while using Impact while using fire etc.

If you are simply farming, weakness to elements can end up costing more than you get back.It's amazing for single target though, and def worth having if you plan on using a destruction staff for dpsing bosses.

I specced out of liquid lightning for now because the AoE is very short lived, it cannot be moved if the enemies move out of it, and it's a spot on the bar that I don't need if I am using Impact.

Impact is the cat's meow. It's a pretty amazing ability once you get it and get a good weapon. Once you reach level 50 destruction and get magicka back every time you make a destruction skill kill, down time because almost non-existent.

For AoE farming, I use Critical surge, Inner light, impact, Bound Armor, and then take a pick of what you want as a 5th ability. You get health back every time yuo crit, and you will be critting A LOT. Some people like Streak, but I tend to like a panic button like Hardened ward just in case I do something silly. Sometimes I pull wrong and underestimate the amount of ranged or enemies in the area, so they all back up, and I end up not being able to gather them up correctly, but that's usually a mistake I only make in new areas.

tylerdavidsonb14_ESO · July 2014

well thats just it though. the tooltip changes on like wall of elements depending on which staff you use, but not on crushing shock. I am pretty sure that the after effects...i.e. catch on fire, freeze, the electric one...is one, two or sometimes all three. I hit a guy with crushing shock on my firestaff and he froze. I might be wrong, but I just wanted to know if when you hit the enemy with the beam if it did 49 fire damage AND 49 shock damange AND 49 cold damage...for a total of 147 dmg.

Tonturri · July 2014

I run both Unstable Wall of Elements and Liquid Lightning. Start off with a Crystal Blast, Unstable Wall right after while running towards the mob, then put down a volcanic rune and/or Liquid Lightning while holding block. If it was between Liquid Lightning and Unstable wall, I'd go with Liquid. Looks to do more damage. I always (try) to use a fire staff for all destro staff skills, just because of the passives - 5% crit against target, burning, etc.

Edit: As for the shock thing - I assume you're talking about the 3rd skill in the destro staff tree - yes, it applies all three damage types, with a chance to apply each damage type's effect.

Troponin · July 2014

tylerdavidsonb14_ESO wrote: »

well thats just it though. the tooltip changes on like wall of elements depending on which staff you use, but not on crushing shock. I am pretty sure that the after effects...i.e. catch on fire, freeze, the electric one...is one, two or sometimes all three. I hit a guy with crushing shock on my firestaff and he froze. I might be wrong, but I just wanted to know if when you hit the enemy with the beam if it did 49 fire damage AND 49 shock damange AND 49 cold damage...for a total of 147 dmg.

What enchantment was on the staff? You might have been using a fire staff with a cold enchant

Erock25 · July 2014

Tonturri wrote: »

I always (try) to use a fire staff for all destro staff skills, just because of the passives - 5% crit against target, burning, etc.

Just fyi that 5% crit is only activated when you hit a target with a heavy attack and it only lasts a few seconds. Currently there is no way to test how long the additional crit lasts, but before they made API changes in beta, you could see enemy debuffs and this additional crit after a flame staff heavy attack lasted about 4 seconds.

Troponin · July 2014

Erock25 wrote: »

Tonturri wrote: »

I always (try) to use a fire staff for all destro staff skills, just because of the passives - 5% crit against target, burning, etc.

Just fyi that 5% crit is only activated when you hit a target with a heavy attack and it only lasts a few seconds. Currently there is no way to test how long the additional crit lasts, but before they made API changes in beta, you could see enemy debuffs and this additional crit after a flame staff heavy attack lasted about 4 seconds.

Not to mention, if my memory serves me, All of the highest recorded dps rotations consist of weaving light attacks in between skills. In most cases, heavy attacks take too long to wind up and you end up with too much down time between DoTs and buffs.