Dawnbreaker NA - Reloaded

kijima · July 2014

Barnabas wrote: »

One DC is somehow representative of all DC?

Oh, not at all. I don't tar all of DC with the "Ï can't win by myself so I'm going to get others to help me fight, even if they are my enemies brush", absolutely not. Most of you aren't sooks.

I've met and fought with some awesome blues that I have nothing but respect for, these however today were not of that ilk.

I was there at the start of it, t'was quite good. It was a three way battle between red, blue and yellow with neither side having to much of an advantage, and there wasn't 20 of us, no more than 11 actually, and it was every man for himself, It was like that for hours and fantastic.

But, you all got sooky after being wiped time and time again, so you teamed up together. You burned our camps (we did burn one of yours earlier I'll admit, but the rest of them we left so you could come back into the fight quickly and easily) to the ground, and then wiped us.

Then you proceeded to hold hands and sing ***-Bah-Yah while doing a dolmen together. I hope you and Brizz have beautiful purple babies together with your new friends

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · July 2014

Night capping just seems to be the nature of the beast. You are going to have to sleep some time, and one or the other side will inevitably have players that play during that time. I'm not sure those players should be required to show restraint that players on the other side do not show during the day.

Rylana · July 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

To put this into perspective, AD had three choices last night during all of primetime and early overnight.

1. Fight EP while they were turtled up with overwhelming numbers in BRK
2. Fight EP while they were turtled up with overwhelming numbers in Faregyl
3. Go hit something and watch EP port in 20 at a time until they pushed us out with overwhelming numbers, including any blue keep we attacked.

So we kept trying 3, trying to eventually get somewhere. As people slowly gave up and logged out, our attempts became more feeble. Once we stopped being able to hit things you came out and ran the map.

Why cant you come out of your fricken AP farms?

You were aware that we tried a prime time scroll raid, right?

We pushed Bloodmayne, wiped hard, wiped again rallying at the BM mine, then were bottled up in Faregyl.

We stayed in Faregyl for one siege round, then left to defend the north.

I am aware, I was on that defense at BM, we expected to lose that fight and were scratching our heads when you guys bottlenecked up in the tower and got wiped.

We thought someone had hit somewhere and you suicided to port out, cause you totally had us and then seemed to surrender.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

To put this into perspective, AD had three choices last night during all of primetime and early overnight.

1. Fight EP while they were turtled up with overwhelming numbers in BRK
2. Fight EP while they were turtled up with overwhelming numbers in Faregyl
3. Go hit something and watch EP port in 20 at a time until they pushed us out with overwhelming numbers, including any blue keep we attacked.

So we kept trying 3, trying to eventually get somewhere. As people slowly gave up and logged out, our attempts became more feeble. Once we stopped being able to hit things you came out and ran the map.

Why cant you come out of your fricken AP farms?

You were aware that we tried a prime time scroll raid, right?

We pushed Bloodmayne, wiped hard, wiped again rallying at the BM mine, then were bottled up in Faregyl.

We stayed in Faregyl for one siege round, then left to defend the north. We

Rylana wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

To put this into perspective, AD had three choices last night during all of primetime and early overnight.

1. Fight EP while they were turtled up with overwhelming numbers in BRK
2. Fight EP while they were turtled up with overwhelming numbers in Faregyl
3. Go hit something and watch EP port in 20 at a time until they pushed us out with overwhelming numbers, including any blue keep we attacked.

So we kept trying 3, trying to eventually get somewhere. As people slowly gave up and logged out, our attempts became more feeble. Once we stopped being able to hit things you came out and ran the map.

Why cant you come out of your fricken AP farms?

You were aware that we tried a prime time scroll raid, right?

We pushed Bloodmayne, wiped hard, wiped again rallying at the BM mine, then were bottled up in Faregyl.

We stayed in Faregyl for one siege round, then left to defend the north.

I am aware, I was on that defense at BM, we expected to lose that fight and were scratching our heads when you guys bottlenecked up in the tower and got wiped.

We thought someone had hit somewhere and you suicided to port out, cause you totally had us and then seemed to surrender.

We lost more on the initial breach than you thought we did. There weren't many in the tower.

Ifthir_ESO · July 2014

@Rylana‌ at Faregyl we hardly had overwhelming numbers, we pushed on Bloodmayne, got crushed and then driven back to Faregyl, and then defended under significant odds. Once the defensive tick came, most of EP left as it was 2am EST.

You've posted a lot of bi-polar stuff in the DB threads. One moment celebrating your middle of the night end of server emp push, then demonizing other alliances for taking keeps during off hours?

Better to temper it down on the forums and settle it in game, imho.

Rylana · July 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Night capping just seems to be the nature of the beast. You are going to have to sleep some time, and one or the other side will inevitably have players that play during that time. I'm not sure those players should be required to show restraint that players on the other side do not show during the day.

The problem I am seeing isnt so much how you describe it as just "happening" as it were.

The problem is that some rather large numerical numbers of EP can somehow go without ever sleeping (or have a lot of australians) and know AD/DC are mostly on NA and Eurozone times, respectively.

The fundamental issue is we dont have an Oceanic presence, and EP is totally exploiting that fact. The other side of the coin is that whenever AD has an oceanic presence historically campaigns die because AD then becomes unbreakable overnight (just speaking from past experience on campaigns like AB/first cycle Dawn/Hopesfire)

I dont want that to happen either, but we arent being given much choice but to try to get ahold of guilds with numbers for that timezone.

Grunt1012rwb17_ESO · July 2014

AD please you're embarrassing yourself! Now can you please show your self out?

Rylana · July 2014

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

@Rylana‌ at Faregyl we hardly had overwhelming numbers, we pushed on Bloodmayne, got crushed and then driven back to Faregyl, and then defended under significant odds. Once the defensive tick came, most of EP left as it was 2am EST.

You've posted a lot of bi-polar stuff in the DB threads. One moment celebrating your middle of the night end of server emp push, then demonizing other alliances for taking keeps during off hours?

Better to temper it down on the forums and settle it in game, imho.

To be completely clear - I never supported that overnight push for emp last monday. I thought it was bad taste especially considering it was right before a server maintenance.

Every emp push I have ever been involved in happened during the afternoon or evening NA timezones. Example being yesterday when EP shut us down and saved Aleswell for blue about 20 seconds before we probably would have capped it. DC showed up too late to stop us. As in a good half our of force was already inside the keep with red hitting us from behind, as front lines fell without back support the siege failed.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

Rylana wrote: »

Every emp push I have ever been involved in happened during the afternoon or evening NA timezones. Example being yesterday when EP shut us down and saved Aleswell for blue about 20 seconds before we probably would have capped it. DC showed up too late to stop us.

Back capping the farm and sieging you from behind had that big of an effect?

Rylana · July 2014

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Every emp push I have ever been involved in happened during the afternoon or evening NA timezones. Example being yesterday when EP shut us down and saved Aleswell for blue about 20 seconds before we probably would have capped it. DC showed up too late to stop us.

Back capping the farm and sieging you from behind had that big of an effect?

Ya dude, you showed up right when the first wave had pushed in, some DC had finally arrived, but you effectively prevented us from being able to support them.

It was either turn and fight you off, or push in with you on our tail.

Back line chose to fight, and in the meantime a DC camp went up we werent able to pounce on because we were engaged with you.

It just fell apart from there. DC respawned, pushed out, and viola, it was very similar to the alessia three way only we didnt get onto the walls first.

Warz · July 2014

You really are embarrassing yourselves, most of our emp caps have hit heavy resistance from both ad and dc even at the same time. Just because several of our members go to school or have a job during the day which is when your zerg starts flooding and still has yet to actually claim an emperor during day time or primetime. You whine because we are strongest after people get home. Really after you crowned valnes with a night cap right before server maint. Try getting out of your delusional world of wonderment where you seem to think the stuff your side does is always right and everyone else is in the wrong or do you also not remember it was AD who exploited not once or twice but several times on several days and with full groups to steal the scroll of chim while the gates were closed and everyone on the server knows AD sure as hell isn't good enough to push our temple scrolls legitimately. So stop the whining.

FENGRUSH · July 2014

Looks like agrippa is the mastermind of the night capping. Duly noted.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Looks like agrippa is the mastermind of the night capping. Duly noted.

Yep. Totally my fault. There weren't Oceanic based guilds of EP here before I showed up.

*rolls eyes*

Barnabas · July 2014

kijima wrote: »

Barnabas wrote: »

One DC is somehow representative of all DC?

Oh, not at all. I don't tar all of DC with the "Ï can't win by myself so I'm going to get others to help me fight, even if they are my enemies brush", absolutely not. Most of you aren't sooks.

I've met and fought with some awesome blues that I have nothing but respect for, these however today were not of that ilk.

I was there at the start of it, t'was quite good. It was a three way battle between red, blue and yellow with neither side having to much of an advantage, and there wasn't 20 of us, no more than 11 actually, and it was every man for himself, It was like that for hours and fantastic.

But, you all got sooky after being wiped time and time again, so you teamed up together. You burned our camps (we did burn one of yours earlier I'll admit, but the rest of them we left so you could come back into the fight quickly and easily) to the ground, and then wiped us.

Then you proceeded to hold hands and sing ***-Bah-Yah while doing a dolmen together. I hope you and Brizz have beautiful purple babies together with your new friends

You presume too much. I have no idea who Brizz is and I don't care if it is red or yellow, if I see it I'm going to try to kill it.

bruceb14_ESO5 · July 2014

It seems that more and more from other campaigns are joining and the awesome balance of the campaign is changing. Dawnbreaker has been surprisingly great since reset of campaigns. One guild joins from DC, another from EP then help for AD....and continues. Time zones, how much people play, do home keeps get taken, are alliances allright? Dawnbreaker sure isn't boring anymore.

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

@Rylana‌ at Faregyl we hardly had overwhelming numbers, we pushed on Bloodmayne, got crushed and then driven back to Faregyl, and then defended under significant odds. Once the defensive tick came, most of EP left as it was 2am EST.

lol significant odds?
You had at least one full raid inside. AD had probably 2 raids total at first (maybe, I have no idea tbh, we were down to about 8-10 people ourselves) and most of them were puggies eating oil at the breach. Once they gave up you pushed out and wiped all the siege.

DC, being opportunistic, showed up to gank and we turtled up in a resource to get a few kills before bed.

Bloodmayne, however, was pretty fun - a few minutes and we wouldn't have made it in time.

GRxKnight · July 2014

To all the reds that are saying that the yellows are QQ'ing because of the night capping, how would you feel if you were to log on the next morning and see the entire map blue or yellow, all your scrolls gone, and going from no emp to having an emp? I realize this is a bit of QQ'ing but having to always dethrone an emp during daytime and unable to do anything else for the rest of the night isn't how I would like to play in this campaign. I realize that it isn't exploiting or anything but doing it two nights in a row is really showing red's true colors here.

kirnmalidus · July 2014

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Pretty much fought EP all night. I was offered some collusion on taking EP scrolls from Rylana's guild as well. The same people that would never think of doing anything like that!

Pics or it didn't happen. Seriously though, we'd like to know who in our group is supposedly colluding with you.

kirnmalidus · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

I can probably count them on one hand.

I saw him outside a keep last night. And then I killed him.

dcincali · July 2014

Rylana wrote: »

I am going to see if I can get ahold of Moon Die's guild and put a stop to this bull.

And EP, you do not want that, because if you remember whenever Oceanic is on a server it is yellow full time, and you will be spawn camped at your gates all day long because there will be nothing for the rest of us to do when we log in during the day or afternoon.

Do you really want to start this?

I suggest you stop the night capping now.

LOL You really think DIE would come over to help BDG or what ever you call yourselves now? They have their own issues on AB. Maybe you should recruit some mature oceanic players to balance out the immature na players in your guild.

kirnmalidus · July 2014

kijima wrote: »

Meh, none of it really matters. There is no point calling on DC to come over and help, they are helping.... helping EP! I've been fighting both EP and DC on an open filed just now, not to far away from nikel, and they are helping each other. They wont fight each other... Sad!

I got tag teamed by two, 1 red, 1 blue (and you know who you are) as I took down one of them about 3 times in quick succession, and the only way he could pay back was to team up with a blue, priceless!

I had a good chuckle at your expense there, but the funniest part was watching blue and red doing a dolmen together near nikel. I had to take screen shots as I couldn't believe my eyes.

Most nights on Dawnbreaker now there is not Red, Yellow and Blue. There is only Yellow vs. Purple.

bitaken · July 2014

Ep is down to emp keep and I took EVERYTHING. Stop the madness. You want your scrolls and keeps - you're going to have to fight for them. I will be defending everything we took today - until I have to sleep tonight. When I sleep if you take everything your victory is hollow. My AP will be glorious this evening.

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Ep is down to emp keep and I took EVERYTHING. Stop the madness. You want your scrolls and keeps - you're going to have to fight for them. I will be defending everything we took today - until I have to sleep tonight. When I sleep if you take everything your victory is hollow. My AP will be glorious this evening.

You mean they got emp last night/this morning when everyone slept and it STILL hasn't been taken away from them?

GRxKnight · July 2014

Pretty much the only time red can do anything in this campaign is when both yellow and blue are sleeping. A group of about 12 yellows defended allessia farm outnumbered 2.5:1 roughly. From what I've seen red only has two forces. The 3 AM group and Agrippa's group.

aksyong · July 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Ep is down to emp keep and I took EVERYTHING. Stop the madness. You want your scrolls and keeps - you're going to have to fight for them. I will be defending everything we took today - until I have to sleep tonight. When I sleep if you take everything your victory is hollow. My AP will be glorious this evening.

You mean they got emp last night/this morning when everyone slept and it STILL hasn't been taken away from them?

We're letting EP keep their emp only because:

1) the current emp is a joke, beneficial to us
2) if we dethrone him, EP will night cap a new emp the next day, effectively the 6th emp they are crowning

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

aksyong wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Ep is down to emp keep and I took EVERYTHING. Stop the madness. You want your scrolls and keeps - you're going to have to fight for them. I will be defending everything we took today - until I have to sleep tonight. When I sleep if you take everything your victory is hollow. My AP will be glorious this evening.

You mean they got emp last night/this morning when everyone slept and it STILL hasn't been taken away from them?

We're letting EP keep their emp only because:

1) the current emp is a joke, beneficial to us
2) if we dethrone him, EP will night cap a new emp the next day, effectively the 6th emp they are crowning

while I agree with point 2 (no idea who the emp is), I still dislike the advantage the alliance bonus it gives them, considering how 'hard earned' that was

bruceb14_ESO5 · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Ep is down to emp keep and I took EVERYTHING. Stop the madness. You want your scrolls and keeps - you're going to have to fight for them. I will be defending everything we took today - until I have to sleep tonight. When I sleep if you take everything your victory is hollow. My AP will be glorious this evening.

Right, "I" took everything. Sure. Talk about madness.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Ep is down to emp keep and I took EVERYTHING. Stop the madness. You want your scrolls and keeps - you're going to have to fight for them. I will be defending everything we took today - until I have to sleep tonight. When I sleep if you take everything your victory is hollow. My AP will be glorious this evening.

This post is awesome. I need a race and class for it so I can envision our lone hero, mowing down waves of enemies, hopping from keep to keep and single-handedly taking them all.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Ep is down to emp keep and I took EVERYTHING. Stop the madness. You want your scrolls and keeps - you're going to have to fight for them. I will be defending everything we took today - until I have to sleep tonight. When I sleep if you take everything your victory is hollow. My AP will be glorious this evening.

This post is awesome. I need a race and class for it so I can envision our lone hero, mowing down waves of enemies, hopping from keep to keep and single-handedly taking them all.

I believe Bitaken is a sorcerer. Not sure what race.

bitaken · July 2014

What part of everything do you not understand?

I am the PvP leader for Einherjar - a PvP guild that is 13 years old - yes - we have been killing people on the Internet for 13 years. And I decided to take everything from EP and make them get out of their gates so they will know what it feels like when they do it to us.