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Should the Emperor skill line be completely removed? (And simply apply the buffs to current emps).

CheesyDaedra
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Good *whatevertimeofthedayitis* people, i make this call in an effort to eradicate the current trend of the could-save-tamriel-by-taking-back-the-imperial-city-from-molag-bal emperors who abdicate from the Ruby throne of nowhere inmediately for no particular reason other than obvious fear to the King of *** residing in their could-be throne.

Seriously though, we all know that the current way the Emperor skill line works has been killing PvP since early access, promoting sacrilege with the blessing of the Ruby throne by handing it over like a fishy stick feast to every unworthy non-dragonblood heir to the empire.

We all know that such a practice has already made the followers of Akatosh speak up regarding such debauchery:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/115064/emperor-farming/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/117194/new-low-from-emperor-farming-cheaters
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/117563/na-volendrung-the-end-of-dc-emperor-farming
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/118534/do-you-believe-emperor-farming-trading-has-a-place-in-ava/p1
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/106988/making-the-emperor-more-meaningful-and-relevant-to-ava#latest

In all honesty i believe the CHIM-fueled-overlords of our current Aurbis should reward the blessing of the Ruby throne of nowhere to those who will eventually strike at the Imperial City and free it from the influence of the Lord of domination once and for all (I'm pointing at you overlords) and not blatantly run from their responsibility in the next two seconds.

This is why on behalf of the Mages Guild i'm sending this poll to all the current citizens of Tamriel, it has been redacted in a way that does not endorse any ideology and as such is the most objective.
Edited by CheesyDaedra on 14 July 2014 04:52
Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick, it's a very delicate state of mind.

Should the Emperor skill line be completely removed? (And simply apply the buffs to current emps). 58 votes

Yes
25%
LauraJarnhandPapa_Huntmaxilaub17_ESODedricusSagemonnOrchishdrogon1AlxemeksynnermanVagabondAngelNoctusDymencepppontusLettigall 15 votes
Totally yes!
36%
TintinabulaDleatherusk4vet_ESOLrdRahvinBraidascorey151302dennis.schmelzleb16_ESOTannakaobiLava_CroftBrandoidrammstein2001pub18_ESOdemonlkojipub19_ESOColumbaVisCatastropheCodyLord_HevMud_PuppyNicholai HelRenuo 21 votes
House Squirrel says YESS!
8%
WarrioroftheWind_ESOBlooddancerArcanusMagusCheesyDaedraBaenius 5 votes
Molag Bal says nuh.
3%
IxSTALKERxIAnu_Saukko_Tutkija 2 votes
No.
25%
frwinters_ESONaw_SunrestCinnamon_SpiderMorvulkijimaDeLindsaynudelyorzoVanHalenMahbubAnomaly 2JediRiftEnglishNorwegianspud1639KalinRan 15 votes
  • Cody
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    Totally yes!
    There never should have been a "skillline" to begin with in my opinion. heck i think there should not even be a buff(s)! in my opinion, it should just be a title, a bragging right, its also supposed to be something you earned through hard work, and being a bada** in PvP. it should strike fear into the hearts of your enemies. but that is not the case currently. when i see an emperor/ress/former emperor/ress; my first thought no matter how hard i try to not think it, is "did they cheat, or did they actually earn it?" i know im not the only one who thinks that. i have more fear for a level 30 than i do a former emperor/ress. that's not good:/
    Edited by Cody on 14 July 2014 05:10
  • CheesyDaedra
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    House Squirrel says YESS!
    Also remove the Dye achievement regarding emperorship and make Oil damage the user if he/she splats it on his/her own ground.

    PvP is suddenly fixed and more competitive instead of being your usual "lol i have better stats" fest.
    Edited by CheesyDaedra on 14 July 2014 05:56
    Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick, it's a very delicate state of mind.
  • kijima
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    No.
    I'm saying no on this. (and for the record, I don't have former emp passives nor am I able to put in the time required to earn it currently)

    No, but with a proviso. You need to keep your Emperor ship for a predetermined time before you get to keep the passives. I'm not sure how long would be suitable, but long enough to discourage the farming, that way the current Emp and his cronies would need to defend and defend well to keep it. If successful, then you get the spoils of war, if you lose Emp to quickly, then you don't deserve to keep the passives or the title.

    That's my .02 septims on the matter.
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...

    A'marta - AD Sorc Tank
    Kijima - AD DK Derps
    Annure - AD NB Derps
    Boom Crash Opera - AD Sorc DPS

  • DeLindsay
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    No.
    No and I don't have an Emperor on either NA or EU. The passives when you aren't an Emperor are very small and not game changing or game breaking at all. I do however understand the idea that since Emperor is being farmed night and day that it's no longer any real achievement that a player has been Emperor but I still don't think the passives should go away for formers.
  • Blooddancer
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    House Squirrel says YESS!
    At the very least make so you have to remain emperor for a certain duration before getting any benefits.
    Maybe lock the skill line when you are not Emperor so you cannot advance unless you are the current Emperor.
    Edited by Blooddancer on 14 July 2014 07:48
  • Lord_Hev
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    Totally yes!
    Yes. The -single- most lore-breaking thing in this game. Only the 3 faction leaders have any claim to Emperor-ship, period. End of discussion.


    A compromise: replace name from "Emperor/ress" to the more logical, suitable, and immersive: [faction name] Legate/Grand Warlord.


    Or some such.
    Qaevir/Qaevira Av Morilye/Molag
    Tri-Faction @Lord_Hevnoraak ingame
    PC NA
  • Columba
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    Totally yes!
    Yes, no more god mode.
  • WarrioroftheWind_ESO
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    House Squirrel says YESS!
    They need to rework the buffs to make Emp less of a one man army and more of a actual leader. Perhaps make them only applicable in Cyro, ON their native campaign, and pertaining to pvp tactics. Say for example one can increase damage done against enemy defenders (npcs) and another can increase siege radius and damage, or mana/hp regen by a percentage among group members, another buff reduce cast times by % etc. Again ONLY useable in Cyro. The problem with the current farming environment isn't that the buffs are there, it's that min-maxers view it as a competitive edge, only now just about everyone has that edge so they're stuck in the same sandbox now.

    Volen saw a slew of the unkillable DK emps back in the day, and they tried to pass it off as 'they had to go off on their own because the rest of the army was busy". Nuh uh. Emperors need to command. That's what Tiber Septim did, that's what Titus Mede did, and thats what all of these armchair emps should do if they expect to gain the benefits that are associated with being top dog. You didn't see everyone in Vanilla WoW running around with High Warlord/Grand Marshall and associated gear. Only a bare handful of people ever had it at any given time, they had to work hard to maintain it, and would lose it if they didn't put in the required work for it.

    Someone was criticising making a 'lockout period' for attaining buffs. Instead of that what if they make it to where you can only achieve a degree of buffs per day you hold emp? Say one rank for one day, next rank for second, and it goes on. That might encourage facs to fight hard to keep hold of it just as much as it encourages opposing facs to strip it away. Other facs need to field bigger numbers as well. Volen didn't have a '41-day emp' but we had something close with a DK emp who would hold emp for several days at a time, only losing it when the other facs made big pushes.

    Another option they can consider is guerilla style tactics, kind of unconventional things to do. It probably won't net you a keep but you can throw a wrench in the works. Something along the lines of the egg-lobbing quest in Bal Foyen, or add siege ladders and rappels. You can't just waltz in though, say NPCS will spawn to try and fight you off (ala the Alliances cinematic) and these have to be targeted down and killed quickly before your devices are destroyed. I'd hate for ESO to be known as "that game" because other games are "that game' now. It doesn't just fall on the devs to save the pvp environment, players should step in too.
  • Tannakaobi
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    Totally yes!
    Yeah, remove it.

    It's bad 'Lore' if nothing else.
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