My First Duel Against DC :)

Heethcliff · July 2014

And what a good duel it was. I'm sorry I didn't catch the name(Gunnar, Gunmer?), but you know who you are and you fought well! For a while I thought the fight may never end (sword/board DK vs sword/board DK).

Heethcliff (EP-DK)

Mud_Puppy · July 2014

I love posts like this. It means there's still PvPers with a strong sense of honor.

And congrats on your first duel! Alot more rewarding than zergs isn't it?

Gilvoth · July 2014

Mud_Puppy wrote: »

I love posts like this. It means there's still PvPers with a strong sense of honor.

And congrats on your first duel! Alot more rewarding than zergs isn't it?

it also gives us insight as to who is talking and playing with the enemy, instead of killing them like we are suppose to

DontBeAfraid · July 2014

Heethcliff wrote: »

And what a good duel it was. I'm sorry I didn't catch the name(Gunnar, Gunmer?), but you know who you are and you fought well! For a while I thought the fight may never end (sword/board DK vs sword/board DK).

Heethcliff (EP-DK)

u also can write with people ingame cross factions.

just use /w name, hello!
the , is important.

and i like the spirit of this topic

Mud_Puppy · July 2014

Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »

Mud_Puppy wrote: »

I love posts like this. It means there's still PvPers with a strong sense of honor.

And congrats on your first duel! Alot more rewarding than zergs isn't it?

it also gives us insight as to who is talking and playing with the enemy, instead of killing them like we are suppose to

Nah man, duelers are never the enemy.

GunemCleric · July 2014

Thank you @Heethcliff ‌

It was a great fight and my first duel also. I too wondered if we were ever going to finish. You are very good. You fought with honor and won fair and clean.

(not sure why it puts quotes around your name)

kijima · July 2014

You know, I'm envious of you guys. Sounds like you had a blast, I'd prefer to have good 1v1's than having fancy titles and the like.

This is EXACTLY what this game is all about.

thanks guys, you've made me smile.

Kiljaz · July 2014

I love a good duel like the next guy, but don't do it cyrodiil personally. I've been yelled at for killing someone that was in a 1v1... As if I knew it was a diel between ash and nikel lol... Dammit ZoS... duel option go.

LegendaryMage · July 2014

I've merged my dueling guild with another I found out about (larger), it's called Cyrodiil Dueling Arena and there are about 70 of us in there atm. We could use more EP/DC guys, so if you're willing to join us (we're on the EU server, mostly Auriel's Bow) send a mail (or whisper if I'm online) Aleksandar030 for an invite.

Duels are most common in the evenings and there are some awesome players you will get to fight.

GunemCleric · July 2014

Kiljaz wrote: »

I love a good duel like the next guy, but don't do it cyrodiil personally. I've been yelled at for killing someone that was in a 1v1... As if I knew it was a diel between ash and nikel lol... Dammit ZoS... duel option go.

This was not a prearranged thing. EP owns the map and we were fighting to get a foothold. We were fighting the Emperor and his guild and getting kills, but they were getting more and pushing us further and further back...through our gate...up the hill, but we were not giving up and with our backs at the wall Kage (EP Emp) issued the challenge for Heethcliff. I accepted the challenge and almost had to yell at my guild to back them off. It was a good fight and seemed to go on for a long time.

We are not going to work with any enemies (we are the rebels) and there will be no deals, no farming. We have done as much as we can to make DC emp farming difficult. Kage has stated he will not permit farming either and thus far he seems to have honor and genuinely want to fight and PvP the way it should be.

When more of my people came in we did manage to take several resources and a castle, and it was difficult to take the castle, I am certain they went easy on us.

We are recruiting to fight, real PvP. Our guild grows and we are looking for more to join us. Whether small guilds or new players, any level, come join with us against a powerful enemy. Guts n Glory

*Emp farmers need not apply.

Rylana · July 2014

The only good 1v1 i have ever had in this game never actually finished.

Not really much of a dueler so to speak, im a ganker. And this sorc was really tempting me reading one of his map/scrolls of his character screens. I was VR4 and he was VR6 so I figured I had a decent chance of downing him before he could get away. That of course didnt happen the way I had planned it.

I jumped him with my NB and we went at it for well over an hour, but it was pretty insane because there wasnt nearly as much actual combat as you might expect. The fight reset constantly, with one of us always finding the other around the same rock with magelight and the fight resuming.

Whenever one got low, he would either BE away, or id cloak out and roll out of range.

Very strategic fight, very nerve wracking because we were in a well traveled area of old Auriels Bow (before literally all of the population left it) between Sejanus and the Alessia bridge.

Ultimately another AD came along and ruined the fight by jumping the guy which made him BE to never return.

Still havent seen him since.

Brandoid · July 2014

aleksandar.miticeb17_ESO wrote: »

I've merged my dueling guild with another I found out about (larger), it's called Cyrodiil Dueling Arena and there are about 70 of us in there atm. We could use more EP/DC guys, so if you're willing to join us (we're on the EU server, mostly Auriel's Bow) send a mail (or whisper if I'm online) Aleksandar030 for an invite.

Duels are most common in the evenings and there are some awesome players you will get to fight.

Glad to know there is a EU dueling guild.
Legend on NA has ~360 members.

It was 02:36(am) when I checked and there were 57 members online.

Edit: What kind of criteria does your guild have for recruiting and do you abide by any rules?

LegendaryMage · July 2014

Brandoid wrote: »

aleksandar.miticeb17_ESO wrote: »

I've merged my dueling guild with another I found out about (larger), it's called Cyrodiil Dueling Arena and there are about 70 of us in there atm. We could use more EP/DC guys, so if you're willing to join us (we're on the EU server, mostly Auriel's Bow) send a mail (or whisper if I'm online) Aleksandar030 for an invite.

Duels are most common in the evenings and there are some awesome players you will get to fight.

Glad to know there is a EU dueling guild.
Legend on NA has ~360 members.

It was 02:36(am) when I checked and there were 57 members online.

Edit: What kind of criteria does your guild have for recruiting and do you abide by any rules?

Yes, I've heard about your guild and I would have applied for sure if I was on NA. We don't have any special rules, we just agree on some basic stuff such as potion usage, ultimates (I generally insist that they only be used if both parties have them ready, otherwise no) etc.

We have a couple of 'places' where we like to meet and duke it out, if you'd like to view a video or two, take a look at;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq4AY3iKXg4

This is one of our best sorcs, very tricky to beat and usually wins almost all matches regardless of what class he fights. Though I told him if Zeni implements same faction dueling his winning streak will end very quickly...

How do you guys conduct your sessions? Very curious to hear.

DontBeAfraid · July 2014

there is also the guild "ARENA" which has almost 200 members, 40-100 constant online.
pretty much all names / high ranks from Dawnbreaker, Bloodthorn and Auriels (eu) are in.

lots of funny talking - crossfaction conversation - duelling - small scale pvping is on going every day.

if u are v12, enjoy small scale pvp and can call yourself a nice guy/girl - then feel free to let us know if u want an invite

/w marlic,
/w magica de hex,
/w greif,

Heethcliff · July 2014

Kiljaz wrote: »

I love a good duel like the next guy, but don't do it cyrodiil personally. I've been yelled at for killing someone that was in a 1v1... As if I knew it was a diel between ash and nikel lol... Dammit ZoS... duel option go.

Well I for one would happily keep the Dueling out of Cryodiil if ZOS could just add In Faction Dueling and/or the option to duel anyone from any faction. (would be awesome imo

GunemCleric wrote: »

Thank you @Heethcliff ‌

It was a great fight and my first duel also. I too wondered if we were ever going to finish. You are very good. You fought with honor and won fair and clean.

(not sure why it puts quotes around your name)

I did have a few scroll/emp buffs. So not entirely even toe, but a good clean fight none the less!

Heethcliff (@Thugsid) EP/DK

Brandoid · July 2014

aleksandar.miticeb17_ESO wrote: »

Brandoid wrote: »

aleksandar.miticeb17_ESO wrote: »

I've merged my dueling guild with another I found out about (larger), it's called Cyrodiil Dueling Arena and there are about 70 of us in there atm. We could use more EP/DC guys, so if you're willing to join us (we're on the EU server, mostly Auriel's Bow) send a mail (or whisper if I'm online) Aleksandar030 for an invite.

Duels are most common in the evenings and there are some awesome players you will get to fight.

Glad to know there is a EU dueling guild.
Legend on NA has ~360 members.

It was 02:36(am) when I checked and there were 57 members online.

Edit: What kind of criteria does your guild have for recruiting and do you abide by any rules?

Yes, I've heard about your guild and I would have applied for sure if I was on NA. We don't have any special rules, we just agree on some basic stuff such as potion usage, ultimates (I generally insist that they only be used if both parties have them ready, otherwise no) etc.

We have a couple of 'places' where we like to meet and duke it out, if you'd like to view a video or two, take a look at; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq4AY3iKXg4

This is one of our best sorcs, very tricky to beat and usually wins almost all matches regardless of what class he fights. Though I told him if Zeni implements same faction dueling his winning streak will end very quickly...

How do you guys conduct your sessions? Very curious to hear.

Usually we meet at a certain area in Bloodthorn. Since people don't like to wait around for turns we began using Block+Jump to start duels.

There are no rules as to what you can do during combat. Of course rules are stricter for tournaments, but so long as you don't run away or something interrupts it's a fight to death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f5Rt0VhdQI

badmojo · July 2014

I hate dueling because it takes an already small PVP population and puts them in a corner. Instead of having small battles around a keep or resource, battles that attract more people into the campaign over time, you have people hiding and trading kills in secret, which pushes people away from the campaign, and is usually very exclusive. I don't bother asking to join the dueling anymore, they usually don't want you there, or it's 'only VR12 allowed', etc. Also, I believe it has the effect of making it very difficult for a non-dueler to catch up (on leaderboards) to those people who are dueling for many hours a day.

Brandoid · July 2014

badmojo wrote: »

I hate dueling because it takes an already small PVP population and puts them in a corner. Instead of having small battles around a keep or resource, battles that attract more people into the campaign over time, you have people hiding and trading kills in secret, which pushes people away from the campaign, and is usually very exclusive. I don't bother asking to join the dueling anymore, they usually don't want you there, or it's 'only VR12 allowed', etc. Also, I believe it has the effect of making it very difficult for a non-dueler to catch up (on leaderboards) to those people who are dueling for many hours a day.

First: It's earning not trading kills, no self respecting duelist will die without having to make their opponent work for it.

Second: You seemed to have a negative experience with a dueling guild, but I can assure you not all are like that. Expect to be met with hostility though if you attack anyone(You will be swarmed by better than average players).

Third: I am sceptical about your assumption that duels detract from what could be a growing campains' population. I believe that it is moderate to large size groups/guilds that choose to come into campains. I believe those groups would have far more influence on attracting other players than a handful of duelists from each alliance could ever have.

Fourth: If you want to move up on the leaderboard for a certain campain then get a good small group together and destroy larger groups of unorganized players often and efficiently.

DontBeAfraid · July 2014

badmojo wrote: »

I hate dueling because it takes an already small PVP population and puts them in a corner. Instead of having small battles around a keep or resource, battles that attract more people into the campaign over time, you have people hiding and trading kills in secret, which pushes people away from the campaign, and is usually very exclusive. I don't bother asking to join the dueling anymore, they usually don't want you there, or it's 'only VR12 allowed', etc. Also, I believe it has the effect of making it very difficult for a non-dueler to catch up (on leaderboards) to those people who are dueling for many hours a day.

everytime i start a duelling session i lose plenty of places on the leaderboard.
even though i won most of my duels. thats not at all a viable way to farm ap.

badmojo · July 2014

Brandoid wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I hate dueling because it takes an already small PVP population and puts them in a corner. Instead of having small battles around a keep or resource, battles that attract more people into the campaign over time, you have people hiding and trading kills in secret, which pushes people away from the campaign, and is usually very exclusive. I don't bother asking to join the dueling anymore, they usually don't want you there, or it's 'only VR12 allowed', etc. Also, I believe it has the effect of making it very difficult for a non-dueler to catch up (on leaderboards) to those people who are dueling for many hours a day.

First: It's earning not trading kills, no self respecting duelist will die without having to make their opponent work for it.

Second: You seemed to have a negative experience with a dueling guild, but I can assure you not all are like that. Expect to be met with hostility though if you attack anyone(You will be swarmed by better than average players).

Third: I am sceptical about your assumption that duels detract from what could be a growing campains' population. I believe that it is moderate to large size groups/guilds that choose to come into campains. I believe those groups would have far more influence on attracting other players than a handful of duelists from each alliance could ever have.

Fourth: If you want to move up on the leaderboard for a certain campain then get a good small group together and destroy larger groups of unorganized players often and efficiently.

You're working with the enemies to get as much combat per hour as possible. That in itself is trading kills. You come together in order to kill each other over and over. You're boosting your score, your skills, your rewards, your bounty missions. Even if you don't care about any of it, and you're just killing time, it's still the same to those of us that care.

I have the experience of sometimes having lots of fun battling small groups on my home campaign of Bloodthorn. But, other times it'll be dead quiet, and I notice enemies or friendlies always rushing off in the same direction, then later I discover 3 camps all together and about 30 players dueling or watching the duels. This has happened a lot since I've started visiting Cyrodiil.

It detracts from smaller campaigns because people inevitably find these dueling matches and join them, make friends with the enemies, and build a community around it. When you have a group of people sucking away the few players who join the campaign, it's hard to get anything going around the keeps. There's also the problem that in Bloodthorn we (DC) own everything, so the enemy duelists obviously don't care much for their standing, but as soon as someone from their faction makes any move, you better believe those duelists come crawling out of the woodwork and zerg the hell out of them.

I know how to move up the leaderboard. My point was that the act of dueling corrupts the score system because of the frequency they can die, spawn, die, spawn.

Brandoid · July 2014

badmojo wrote: »

Brandoid wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I hate dueling because it takes an already small PVP population and puts them in a corner. Instead of having small battles around a keep or resource, battles that attract more people into the campaign over time, you have people hiding and trading kills in secret, which pushes people away from the campaign, and is usually very exclusive. I don't bother asking to join the dueling anymore, they usually don't want you there, or it's 'only VR12 allowed', etc. Also, I believe it has the effect of making it very difficult for a non-dueler to catch up (on leaderboards) to those people who are dueling for many hours a day.

First: It's earning not trading kills, no self respecting duelist will die without having to make their opponent work for it.

Second: You seemed to have a negative experience with a dueling guild, but I can assure you not all are like that. Expect to be met with hostility though if you attack anyone(You will be swarmed by better than average players).

Third: I am sceptical about your assumption that duels detract from what could be a growing campains' population. I believe that it is moderate to large size groups/guilds that choose to come into campains. I believe those groups would have far more influence on attracting other players than a handful of duelists from each alliance could ever have.

Fourth: If you want to move up on the leaderboard for a certain campain then get a good small group together and destroy larger groups of unorganized players often and efficiently.

You're working with the enemies to get as much combat per hour as possible. That in itself is trading kills. You come together in order to kill each other over and over. You're boosting your score, your skills, your rewards, your bounty missions. Even if you don't care about any of it, and you're just killing time, it's still the same to those of us that care.

I have the experience of sometimes having lots of fun battling small groups on my home campaign of Bloodthorn. But, other times it'll be dead quiet, and I notice enemies or friendlies always rushing off in the same direction, then later I discover 3 camps all together and about 30 players dueling or watching the duels. This has happened a lot since I've started visiting Cyrodiil.

It detracts from smaller campaigns because people inevitably find these dueling matches and join them, make friends with the enemies, and build a community around it. When you have a group of people sucking away the few players who join the campaign, it's hard to get anything going around the keeps. There's also the problem that in Bloodthorn we (DC) own everything, so the enemy duelists obviously don't care much for their standing, but as soon as someone from their faction makes any move, you better believe those duelists come crawling out of the woodwork and zerg the hell out of them.

I know how to move up the leaderboard. My point was that the act of dueling corrupts the score system because of the frequency they can die, spawn, die, spawn.

Let me start with saying that it is clear now that you don't know the situation on Bloodthorn.

DC owns everything, quite intimidating to random, solo, or small group players. Why does DC own everything? Because Naw Sunrest and his group pushes out any other group that tries to come in and take keeps.

That said, the ap generated by duelists are not that significant. I know this because I have been dueling there for a long time and never really moved up the leaderboard.

In the last two days running wit ha group of six provocating the local DC group and Naw himself I have gone up to 15 place for EP emp. Other group members have gone higher.

badmojo · July 2014

Okay, so I was wrong about it increasing your score. And we rule Bloodthorn with an iron fist.

I still don't like dueling.

Brandoid · July 2014

badmojo wrote: »

...we rule Bloodthorn with an iron fist...

We'll see.

Akinos · July 2014

badmojo wrote: »

Okay, so I was wrong about it increasing your score. And we rule Bloodthorn with an iron fist.

I still don't like dueling.

More like you get punched in the face by the 6 EP with iron fists

.

Dueling is amazing btw and the best way to learn more about your character and the game.

Heethcliff · July 2014

badmojo wrote: »

Okay, so I was wrong about it increasing your score. And we rule Bloodthorn with an iron fist.

I still don't like dueling.

Badmojo, I think your mistaken on a few points. There is no "trading" in duels. Its just 1v1 and whoever comes out on top is the victor, and yes, little AP could ever be earned this way.

I understand you may not enjoy dueling given personal experience or preference, but there are a lot of players that do and who have lots of fun with it. Dueling isn't just for the purpose of fun, however, it also helps you learn your own limits as well as the limits of your personal build. It also gives you an edge against the different types of class/builds you'll fight against in the future.

It all comes down to learning. Learning about yours and others classes/builds/strats. The more you duel, the more you learn, and the more you learn, the better you become not just at dueling, but in all aspects of your game play.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · July 2014

It seems like dueling as a game mechanic would leech players from cyrodiil. I want a living, dangerous pvp zone. I don't want to be forced to have all my fights be staged 1v1 combat.

Heethcliff · July 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

It seems like dueling as a game mechanic would leech players from cyrodiil. I want a living, dangerous pvp zone. I don't want to be forced to have all my fights be staged 1v1 combat.

Once servers are reduced to only the 5 campaigns, you will have packed servers of people more into the AvA scene. However, I don't believe dueling would leech players from Cyrodiil. In fact, dueling would likely bring more players to ESO in general. Regardless of your favorite pvp scene (AvA, Duels, Arena, etc.), the more options you have for the paying customer and the avid Elder Scrolls fan, the more they can immerse themselves in a variety of activities they love.

Cody · July 2014

i met and fought this DC player when wabba was nearing its end(im EP) i THINK his name was something like "sgt jhon" something like that. Best player i have seen so far. he is a NB. what he does, is uses mark target to mark you, then gets a stealth hit with veiled strike(i think that's it) he then(i think) uses haste, and pulverizes you with daggers. i don't think i have ever seen him die:) would not be surprised if he became an emperor(he is not former emp)