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So anyway, alliance warfare was the most fun I had in ESO
jdh399
Soul Shriven
And as of now I quit. I somehow thought the clicks and good old boy networks that make it really unpleasant to break into PVP in other MMOs was not the pattern in ESO. When I first logged into Cyrodiil, I got a PUG invite without even asking. And for most nights since then, I've been able to get myself invited to groups and, like I said above, had the most fun I've ever had in this game.
Some nights, it could take up to an hour or more before someone lording the group leadership would relent and actually grant an invite to someone who was not a V12 or personal friend, but I mostly have been able to get into a group and make a contribution. In the course of about 10 days, I was able to earn over 400k AP.
It's been trending more difficult though and tonight I sat logged in for over 4 hours asking repeatedly to get into a group so I could actually play but the 2 million plus AP group leader totally ignored my requests the whole evening. I don't know if they are afraid of losing their leader board position or if they are just *** but I'm done.Maybe I'll train up an AD player and see if things are any different over there. They always have a ton of people involved in every op so my guess it's their MO to get the most players possible involved and not just their 'friends'.
It's pretty disgusting to me to watch the player with the highest AP in the game lord group invites over people like he's some sort of god. Anyway, to those I fought with I want to say good show. DC is the best alliance in Cyrodiil and that is because of people like Grunt who treat newer players like they are actually people and happen also to be very talented at managing the battle.
Have fun ya'll and keep up the good work. Now, to the elitist snobs who couldn't bring themselves to actually lead a group but instead treated their position as an inheritance. I have only one hope for you and that is that this truly is your ONLY life.
Laters all.
MadJim
Some nights, it could take up to an hour or more before someone lording the group leadership would relent and actually grant an invite to someone who was not a V12 or personal friend, but I mostly have been able to get into a group and make a contribution. In the course of about 10 days, I was able to earn over 400k AP.
It's been trending more difficult though and tonight I sat logged in for over 4 hours asking repeatedly to get into a group so I could actually play but the 2 million plus AP group leader totally ignored my requests the whole evening. I don't know if they are afraid of losing their leader board position or if they are just *** but I'm done.Maybe I'll train up an AD player and see if things are any different over there. They always have a ton of people involved in every op so my guess it's their MO to get the most players possible involved and not just their 'friends'.
It's pretty disgusting to me to watch the player with the highest AP in the game lord group invites over people like he's some sort of god. Anyway, to those I fought with I want to say good show. DC is the best alliance in Cyrodiil and that is because of people like Grunt who treat newer players like they are actually people and happen also to be very talented at managing the battle.
Have fun ya'll and keep up the good work. Now, to the elitist snobs who couldn't bring themselves to actually lead a group but instead treated their position as an inheritance. I have only one hope for you and that is that this truly is your ONLY life.
Laters all.
MadJim
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Tintinabula✭✭✭✭✭
✭I really can't relate. I play with my BF and we make it a point to stay out of groups. A lot of times I will log on without him and while its a little lonesome without him..the "need" for an invite to a group dumbfounds me.
I happen upon a few of my fellow EP players..I ride with them..hide with them..we don't say anything..we help each other fight and gank the enemy..that's a group!
Im sorry that you feel the need for an invite into a group of strangers when in reality you can get the same benefit from them by simply being near them.2 -
Limitless✭✭✭Join a PVP guild, be in a group whenever you feel like it.Ebonheart Pact
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Silent Edge: NightBlade
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Sapphy24✭✭✭I was asking for ages for a group, was told to make my own. Anyway, why was I also told not to kill the other side and to let their emperor go through. Something is a tad wrong when your side tell you NOT to kill the other side.
Not quitting, but really confused.3 -
Some people only do guild runs, or rather pvp with recognizable faces since you know what you are getting. Also they might have requirements like using teamspeak/mumble and cant be asked coaching players into doing it.
It isnt that guy's fault, its just the way he prefers to play ( or maybe he didnt even see you in the chat) . PvP is also suffering a lot of the fps issue too, got friends disappearing all over the place since 1.2 . Maybe thats why you also find it harder to group up.
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Halrloprillalar✭✭✭✭✭Basically it depends on how good you are at playing as a team.
If you use voice, pay attention, and do things more or less as required most groups will get used to having you and you'll get invites without much issue.
If you are one of those types that likes to run off, chase people and die, ride a horse in the middle of a stealth group, use fire ballista on walls or any other number of ways people can be terrible in pvp, then not getting an invite from people is not really a surprise.
Most guild groups rarely solicit for people from zone chat and only in times of great need so you have to actively seek them out by talking to people you see in such groups. If you happen to be VR, have TS, and on NA DB (AD), we could use you.
If you are just out for ganks, starting your own gank group is relatively straight forward."nerf rock, paper is fine" - scissors
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KBKB✭✭✭✭✭
✭Make your own OR Alot of guilds run auto commands speaking of wabba: DCE, EG, X etc try one of those in zone next time. You have about 1000 other reasons to quit this game this really shouldn't be one of them.1 -
Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I was asking for ages for a group, was told to make my own. Anyway, why was I also told not to kill the other side and to let their emperor go through. Something is a tad wrong when your side tell you NOT to kill the other side.
Not quitting, but really confused.
Report them for exploiting. They are farming Emperors which is bullcrap cheating. But a "Pet Guild" might be doing it so expect no punishment, they might even call it a "Grey Area" just like when EP could be griefed by a "Grey Area" recently.
If that were in AD lands it would have been hotpatched live.
EDIT:
I cannot stress enough the value of FINDING the groups on your minimap, showing up and making yourself useful.
After a few good rolls, /y "Group me please I have been with ya since 2 battles ago!" and you might get more luck. When people see you in action, they tend to think more about recruiting you.
Another good option is to use TS3. I don't like TS. But when I PVP, I use TS because I want to be the best "me" for my group that I can be. That means knowing there is a ganker over the ledge to the right, it means knowing we are all going to stealth and not heal/ride horse/use ayelid well/etc/etc.
Unfortunately a lot of people use it but the good news is you can usually say "Hello everyone!" and get away without talking very much (or at all) the rest of the time just listen and follow instructions.
Good luck!Edited by Soloeus on 3 July 2014 07:24
Within; Without.2 -
Morticielle✭✭✭1. In TESO is no real need to join a group, because buffs and heals are AoEs. I mostly roam without a group, I do a lot of healing and a little bit of tactically well placed damage and I'm doing well concernig the AP. And I'm not a natural born PvP goddess.
2. If you think you need a group, what prevents you from forming one? Nothing.
3. Any groupleader is free to invite whoever he wants to invite. If you feel discriminated by those groupleaders I fear you will have many worse encounters in real life in the future ...
4. Every day I read in Cyrodiil zone chat many "lfg" and some of them are posted for an hour or longer. Why don't those people form a group of their own? And that is where there problem lies: They don't want to form a group and organize ist, they just want to use the services of another person.
tl;dr
You want a "maître de plaisir", somebody who organizes your PvP experience. IMO people like you are totally misplaced in an MMORPG, because a lot of things you have to do YOURSELF in this type of game.Lady Morticielle d'Aragòn |VR12| Sorcerer | PvP Rank 21 (Major Grade I) | EU-Megaserver | AD
Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:
- Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
- Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
- Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
- Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
- Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
- In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
- Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
- Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand5 -
Sapphy24✭✭✭On occasion there can be a little lag in getting a group, but i'm a big girl now and I make my own. Just me, myself and my shadow and we do rather well at it even though we are just lvl 38.
I was really really wondering why I was being told not to kill the enemy and to let the other sides Emperor go on through. I'm wanting to know what in the blue blazes is going on here? Farming Emperors? what is that about? Not killing the enemy? isn't that what pvp's all about or am I missing something?1 -
jpp✭✭✭That is slightly complicated indeed.
Emperor farming happens - it is what people found out and are playing this way.
It was actually what someone from ZOS said: "if one side is stronger then there is nothing wrong two other sides to cooperate" (not exact citation), but it also turned out that two sides can cooperate also in other occasions and also not only because one side is much stronger.
Now because on some servers population is really small then this tactic leads to friend to friend playing on opposite sides - just imagine yellow and red guilds playing on same TS, the goal to kill enemy is not so important ans they start to cooperate to have "imperor for all".
One player has nothing to do with this tactic - just change the server to more crowded where there is no chance of two sides to cooperate.
Big guild will also either move to different server to get AP or stay on such empty server for no reason (may be to have PvP emperor bonus).0 -
Pathfinder✭✭✭I am fighting for DC in NA Volendrung and I tend not to invite players that I have not at least seen play in PvP before. PUG guys and gals I tend to get for my guild's gank squad get bored fast and quit the group. Being a DC gank squad in Vol is an acquired taste. There is also I think an issue with emp farmer alts running spying mission, but the only evidence I have is anecdotal.Main
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So find another group. This whole wall of text to whine about not being able to get into a particular group.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
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Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭If anything I have the opposite experience. I love to solo but keep getting invites because those around me think we need to be grouped to be able to work together.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Vis✭✭✭✭✭
✭Roll AD, and take vengeance on the elitists brother. You have discovered the evil that lurks in the hearts of DC... For the Queen!v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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Azarul✭✭✭✭IMO you should of started your own group if you were not pleased with the way others are running theirs. I run guild groups all the time and we do not invite randoms that are not going to be on our TS.1
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Nijjion✭✭✭✭DAoC has survived for 10(ish) years (still going now but obviously not as strong) solely because of it's PvP... RvR is undoubtedly one of the best mechanics for MMO PvP to date... sure it has some downfalls like sometimes being slow and big but for some that's what makes it so good... randomness. When it's arenas its pretty much the same all the time.
Games like DayZ as well just shows the need of there being more open world games.NijjijjioN - DK - AR27NijjioN - NB -Daggerfall CovenantThe Nice Guys GuildEverQuest -> Dark Age of Camelot -> Ragnarok Online -> Cabal Online -> Guild Wars 1 -> Warhammer Online -> Vindictus -> SWTOR -> Tera -> Guild Wars 2 -> Elder Scrolls Online ->
Eagerly awaiting Camelot Unchained.0 -
Bramir✭✭✭✭I've had trouble getting into squads before, mainly because I don't usually use voice comms, but why did you care to join a particular squad that badly anyway?
On the EP side there are constantly advertisements for squads of all types...maybe that doesn't happen in the other alliances...
Oh, and EP PUGs are awesome!0 -
Snit✭✭✭✭✭
✭PUG's usually suck.
PvP in small guild groups is awesome
Most guilds are looking for more, too -- there's been enough attrition of the player base to necessitate recruiting.
You may have to do some active searching for the right fit, and that's tougher than /z LFG. But it's worth the work.Snit AD Sorc
Ratbag AD Warden Tank
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Sapphy24✭✭✭Yep, I know pugs suck, I earned the pug dog on wow for pugging and of course over 50000 pvp kill on Daoc, pugging, but I think I know a little about how to play, of course I might be wrong, but ....i'm not.0
