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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

An adventure in Cyrodiil, post hotfix

Rylana
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So, you know the story, enter Cyrodiil, 50 FPS, chillin, go to join a fight (trying to depose dawnbreaker emperor)

Upon arrival at Chalman keep, drop immediately to 1 FPS, and stay there for the duration of a 20 minute battle.

Guild calls it after this due to lag, sleep, frustration, etc.

So I respawn at Eastern Elswyr and go to get a coffee. I come back to the computer five minutes later and take this screenshot. Note that five minutes have passed since I was anywhere near a fight.

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So I head over to the wayshrine (which takes me almost 2 minutes, seriously, to walk to the wayshrine, and leave. I go to my farmin grounds in Coldharbor)

Upon arrival, I am greeted with this

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39 FPS. Notbad.jpg, but why was I still at 1 before a map transition?

Ill tell you why, ZOS, because that map transition wiped my VRAM and reset my renders. Which is what you need to fix, because in PvP or any other large group engagement, all animations, effects, particles, and other VFX are remaining in VRAM and then not being purged every few server ticks like they should be.

It should not require a full map transfer to fix something that should be hard coded into your client.

Instead of bandaids and hotfixes, get to the fundamentals.
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  • Rylana
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    Oh hay whats attacking me hurrr? ow ow ow

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    Oh, its just these three zombies that were invisible until I killed them.

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    The adventure continues....
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    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
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  • Rylana
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    Speaking of missing things. Where is my Standard?

    It clearly just killed these six zombies here, the buff is still active on me even.

    So where is my Standard?

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    Aldmeri Dominion: Rylana Dionysis - DK - AR 25 == Kailiana - NB - AR 21 == Minerva Dionysis - Temp - AR 21 == Victoria Dionysis - Sorc - AR 13
    Daggerfall Covenant: Dannika Dionysis - DK - AR 21 == The Catman Rises - Temp - AR 15 (Former Emperor of Blackwater Blade)
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  • KBKB
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    This sums up a lot, If you can't see why gamers are frustrated with the lack of transparency from ZOS not to mention the screw ups from simple patching/hot fixing on a MASS level. What ticks me off the most is I paid $120 AUD for the imperial edition and then my 15/month since (minus the free one which you had to sub for in the first place -_-) and I have essentially bought a beta. It has become more than clear they don't know what they are doing be it through silver shards, FPS issues, server lag, rendering or perhaps the most annoying while these problems and worse are going on they decide to change the sound our horses hooves make? The FPS bug should not have went live yet alone been around longer than 3 days (up to around 7 I think) This upsets me the most, all reports say they are bleeding subs left right and centre and I believe its more than warranted with this poor excuse for a game.

    I have loved TES since daggerfall, so thank you ZOS for ruining this for me. Be it through your incompetent staff, lack of testing, game breaking glitches from things you didn't even change in the first place or the complete lack of conversation with the online gaming community. You actually make Runescape look better than this and I've never missed WoW/Swtor more than after your *** FPS bug which relay highlighted a lot of this for me.

    PS its been fixed twice once through a patch another through a hotfix why on earth should we believe anything you say?
  • Snowballer23
    Black-Bird wrote: »
    This sums up a lot, If you can't see why gamers are frustrated with the lack of transparency from ZOS not to mention the screw ups from simple patching/hot fixing on a MASS level. What ticks me off the most is I paid $120 AUD for the imperial edition and then my 15/month since (minus the free one which you had to sub for in the first place -_-) and I have essentially bought a beta. It has become more than clear they don't know what they are doing be it through silver shards, FPS issues, server lag, rendering or perhaps the most annoying while these problems and worse are going on they decide to change the sound our horses hooves make? The FPS bug should not have went live yet alone been around longer than 3 days (up to around 7 I think) This upsets me the most, all reports say they are bleeding subs left right and centre and I believe its more than warranted with this poor excuse for a game.

    I have loved TES since daggerfall, so thank you ZOS for ruining this for me. Be it through your incompetent staff, lack of testing, game breaking glitches from things you didn't even change in the first place or the complete lack of conversation with the online gaming community. You actually make Runescape look better than this and I've never missed WoW/Swtor more than after your *** FPS bug which relay highlighted a lot of this for me.

    PS its been fixed twice once through a patch another through a hotfix why on earth should we believe anything you say?

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  • SBR_QuorTek
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    Black-Bird wrote: »

    PS its been fixed twice once through a patch another through a hotfix why on earth should we believe anything you say?

    This is an MMO, problems occur.

    Here comes the fun scenario though... when I enter an area first it bump down my FPS, then it goes back up to 70-80... and remain there with a jump to 50 now and then, it is not my system that lags, but the server that lag..

    If going to True Full screen if you could put it like that I have 100-120 FPS, but currently playing windowed fullscreen. so have to settle with a little bit less but being able to multitask.

    It could be some of the exploits and cheats going on that do so the zone lag... meaning some sinister and shady person on the direct opposite of the map cause the problem.
  • KBKB
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    Black-Bird wrote: »

    PS its been fixed twice once through a patch another through a hotfix why on earth should we believe anything you say?

    This is an MMO, problems occur.

    Yes they do and in all MMOs I've played game breakers such as FPS have been fixed with great haste. Its poor business not to, now ZOS can wave goodbye to a large chunk of the PvP community.

    One of the fixes actually made it worse for a lot of people see the CS post if you don't believe me. The fact they let it go for this long is a massive slap to customers an offer for free time would not go astray considering the game has been and still is unplayable in certain parts for 7+days. Then hail a patch fix followed by a hot fix that either made it worse or had zero effect at all is to put it simply Not anywhere near good enough

    I said I would unsub if this wasn't fixed on Monday (about 5 days after it first happened) which was terribly slow as is then that fix made it worse for a lot of people. Sticking to my word and unsubbing until this game gets out of the beta stages. I suggest you all do the same clearly the only thing they care about is money hence the rushed release and poor game optimisation not to mention PvP lag and the EU server being a carrot on a stick. So hit them where it hurts and unsub until they get their *** together.
  • Solanum
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    Issues occur, but much of the game is currently unplayable because of them.
  • SC0TY999
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    I've washed my hands with ESO I can't play this frustrating piece of crap anymore. Zenimax you can stick this game and your broken promises where the sun don't shine!
  • SilentThunder
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    I'm not convinced this is a actual Video problem. I get the same fps drop near any fight with more than 30ish players no matter what the graphics settings. I have tried every setting from minimal to ultra and the game does exactly the same thing on every setting. I relogged at a keep fight when my fps were at 2-3 came back in, and showed a whoping 19 fps. The enemy players were all blinking in and out around me and I died to multiple attacks (according to recap) that I never saw .
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  • SC0TY999
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    They've broken the game and I don't think they have the ability or know how to fix it!

    It's a shame to say the game was better in beta!
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