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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

ATTENTION: Everyone who gets lag when a group member is added I found a FIX

scratchnsniff
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I did some testing tonight, i found that the ZrMiniMap was causing my lag when new members joined my group.

I would highly suggest, if you are experiencing this problem to disable the ZrMiniMap addon and see if it fixes your problem.

I would like to thank the naked man in bloodthorn campaign (Doctor Jones) for helping me figure this out.
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  • Dleatherus
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    we get the lag/disconnects that happen in groups that don't use that

    D.
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  • scratchnsniff
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    Ok, that may be a similar issue, all I am saying is this fixed it for me.
    I would get lag spikes of 10 to 30 seconds in the cryodiil only when a new member joined a large group.

    it is now gone after i disabled the minimap.
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  • Saet
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    For me, minimap breaks transit shrines in Cyro anyway so I dont use it out there. Is this common for everyone or do I have a bad version or something?
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  • Kajoh_Americano
    Dleatherus wrote: »
    we get the lag/disconnects that happen in groups that don't use that

    D.

    This, it tends to happen regardless of what addons you use once you try to go over 16-20 members. Couple that with the issues generated when someone crashes/ goes offline and you end up with the nice, lovely mess we have today :D

    There was a few times where our group squad had no choice but to disband entirely after x amount of crashes, almost right in the middle of the action just because it was getting unmanageable.
    We pretty much have to enforce a 16-18 group limit, while making sure everyone is from the same home campaign and kicking any offliners the second they disconnect...regardless of whether they are coming back or not. It might sound a bit ***-ish but it's the only effective way we've found to alleviate the problem so far.

    All I can say is thank god for the addons, especially auto-invite & auto-kick. Without these two, we would be too busy pulling out our hair to play the game properly.

    Zenimax HAS to address this nonsense sometimes soon, and while it's most likely connected to the lag it's really dampening the fun to be had in Cyrodiil.
    Edited by Kajoh_Americano on 21 June 2014 17:40
  • Dalriaden
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    Saet wrote: »
    For me, minimap breaks transit shrines in Cyro anyway so I dont use it out there. Is this common for everyone or do I have a bad version or something?

    You have to get the addon to let it zoom in and out, believe its called zrmm - modified
    Edited by Dalriaden on 22 June 2014 00:50
  • bsheffield2008ub17_ESO
    You will get lag or mass disconnected in a group if somebody is not in Cyrodiil joins your group, or somebody that is in a different Cyrodiil server joins your group.
  • OrangeTheCat
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    I don't use that addon and the lag is still horrible making PvP (in wabba at least) unplayable. No, this is ZOS' problem whether they are willing to apply real fixes (instead of workarounds) or not. If it is true that the last patch made this worse, this is the Nth time a patch has made lag/DCs worse in PVP and suggests ZOS has done no real work around fixing the issue since beta to the present day.
    Edited by OrangeTheCat on 22 June 2014 04:52
  • scratchnsniff
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    Did more testing today with zrminimap . I found that the Zrminimap with boarders worked for me with NO lag when a new group member is added.

    Please understand, I am not talking about normal lag that happens in the course of pvp.

    I am talking about lag that happens only when a group member member is added to the group,
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  • dcincali
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    I did some testing tonight, i found that the ZrMiniMap was causing my lag when new members joined my group.

    I would highly suggest, if you are experiencing this problem to disable the ZrMiniMap addon and see if it fixes your problem.

    I would like to thank the naked man in bloodthorn campaign (Doctor Jones) for helping me figure this out.

    Unconfirmed.. I lag when I run no addons..
  • Ifthir_ESO
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    It happens when people leave/join groups in short time spans, even with no add-ons.
    Edited by Ifthir_ESO on 22 June 2014 19:46
  • Cogo
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    Fix for the group lag bug is included in 1.2. wait a few days....
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  • Huckdabuck
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    ALT+F4 if you can or eventually Zenimax will do you a favor and lag boot you themselves if you try to soldier through the lag. Those are the only 2 fixes for lag in Cyrodiil that I've found!
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  • Krinaman
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    I'm going to confirm this.

    I was using the old zrMinimap without an lag issue. I would disable it to get out of the starter area and then re-enable. Then I got the ZrMM - Modified and immediately started to see the 2-3 second lag spikes when joining a group or anybody else joined. It would happen every time whether there was 2 in the group or 20.

    I then got the modified with border and suddenly everything is working lag free again. So if you are running the ZrMM - Modified you might want to switch to with border to see if that fixes you.
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