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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Is something wrong with CC break? Dev Check Please.

Zerosix
Zerosix
Soul Shriven
I am noticing more and more situations where CC break is not working. Usually it is when certain CC combinations are used like ambush into the concealed weapon morphs. (there are several others, but this one is repeatable.) I am noticing more and more that I can be stun locked from 100 to 0 over the course of 6 seconds while I am raging hitting CC break getting nothing.

Please look into this. I would have plenty of reaction time to fight back in these situations if CC break was instant and I could start using abilities. I thought you were supposed to have immunity after CC break as well. I noticed it has not been working if it is supposed to.

Also not anywhere near as important... please make the animation faster, or able to be canceled. It is much too long!
Edited by Zerosix on 8 June 2014 06:31
  • Censorious
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    I can't figure out whether I'm misunderstanding the 'tells' or the lag is killing me or if there is a bug.

    All I know is I get this 'down on one knee' pose that simply doesn't break to anything until I'm dead.
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  • Affrayer
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    Same thing has been happening to me quite a bit. It's frustrating especially when you have a full bar of stamina and mashing the mouse buttons does nothing.
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  • Halrloprillalar
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    I get this too, seems to be a combination of certain cc
  • frwinters_ESO
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    never had the problem. I call personal computer lag.
  • Thor
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    I noticed that recovery from crystal shards does not apply CC immunity.
  • Xnemesis
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    Ambush only stuns monsters not players but the Surprise attack will leave you stunned. Also from my experience only roots are breakable. Stuns, knockdowns, and fears have no breaks. A CC immunity is on the test shard ATM and is only applied against CC of the same kind.

    For example if 1v1 I could hit you with Agony and /dance for 12 seconds and you could do absolutely nothing till the timer is up or you take damage.
    Edited by Xnemesis on 9 June 2014 19:39
  • Nickhead420
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    I still deal with this very occasionally, but it's drastically reduced since I went into the key bindings and bound interrupt to one button. I've got it set to a side button on my mouse and it makes the world of difference.
  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Ive had it happen to me too. I get CC locked and trying to CC break doesn't work, so I get stuck.
  • Dudis
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    Happens to me every time i get hit by the NB one that makes you kneel down and occasionally with other CCs (mainly knockdowns).
  • Teargrants
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    I've seen a couple NBs that seem to be able to consistently stunlock ppl right from the beginning of the engagement, when the enemy should have full stamina to CC break. Not sure if lag or...
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  • Xnemesis
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    Like I said I do not believe stuns, knock downs, and fears cannot be broken. This is my experience as a night blade thus far
  • Zrakie
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    So it wasn't just me, this happened to me 5 times yesterday, every single time it was a NB stun.
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  • Halrloprillalar
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    Xnemesis wrote: »
    Like I said I do not believe stuns, knock downs, and fears cannot be broken. This is my experience as a night blade thus far

    that is all incorrect. Most of these CAN be broken out of, normally, if you have enough stam. Use the same as bash combo (RMB+LMB)

    Certain cc chains/combos seem to be able to break that ability even if by themselves they don't.

    The NB thing in particular.
  • Zerosix
    Zerosix
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    never had the problem. I call personal computer lag.

    I got a 4670k and a gtx 780, talk more nonsense please.

    What ability is it that makes your target kneel? It is that one combined with another CC
    Edited by Zerosix on 10 June 2014 06:29
  • Xnemesis
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    Xnemesis wrote: »
    Like I said I do not believe stuns, knock downs, and fears cannot be broken. This is my experience as a night blade thus far

    that is all incorrect. Most of these CAN be broken out of, normally, if you have enough stam. Use the same as bash combo (RMB+LMB)

    Certain cc chains/combos seem to be able to break that ability even if by themselves they don't.

    The NB thing in particular.

    ahh ok well I know I can use agony and laugh for 12 seconds while they squirm and only seem to get broken out when they take damage. Maybe its just a NB thing
  • Sarousse
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    Some hard CC are bugged, period.

    You can't use your button and get out of hard CC.

    Take a look into this Zen please and fix it.
  • Nijjion
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    If you get rooted while you are knocked down you cannot CC break either way. That's what I've found.
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  • Baphomet
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    Seconded, knockdowns and eclipses are currently not possible to break sometimes. Fortunately you can break it most of the times.
    If you get rooted while you are knocked down you cannot CC break either way. That's what I've found.

    Also, if you have eclipse and get a second stun or knockdown on you, you are locked down for the duration of eclipse @ZOS
    Edited by Baphomet on 10 June 2014 14:44
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  • bsheffield2008ub17_ESO
    Many of my guild mates have experienced and we did about 1 hour of testing. The unbreakable cc sometimes came from Invasion with a blank root such as Talons. The victim was running when the CC was unbreakable. I really think it has to do with server lag and possible blanket roots/snares perhaps?
  • Tintinabula
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    Ive heard someone mention there's a bug where if you are double stunned..say stunned before you break from your first stun..or recover from it..you're perma stunned.
  • Nitratas
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    Seriously, how can you blame performance for not being able to cc break?

    Its clearly some sort of NB attack or just any attack from stealth that does this ''kneeling down'' cc that cannot be broken. I had this countless of times. It's a guaranteed death with no way to resist. LOVE IT
  • Halrloprillalar
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    Nijjion wrote: »
    If you get rooted while you are knocked down you cannot CC break either way. That's what I've found.

    Yea I've been saying this for weeks now. ZOS needs to have a look at breakout and cc mechanics.
    Idk if the NB permastun is a recent thing or not though.
    And Eclipse is sometimes just not breakable at all, period, no stun, (only from a PC, the NPCs ones are always breakable).
  • Snit
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    I only have this issue against Nightblades. I'm not sure what the combination of abilities is, but it leaves me on one knee and unable to break the stun. My stamina level does not appear to be relevant.

    As a sorc, I have given up on our own class CC's. Good players break all of them easily, if they didn't block them in the first place. I suggest that unblockable or unbreakable CC needs a hard look.
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  • Morticielle
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    Zerosix wrote: »
    I am noticing more and more situations where CC break is not working. Usually it is when certain CC combinations are used like ambush into the concealed weapon morphs. (there are several others, but this one is repeatable.) I am noticing more and more that I can be stun locked from 100 to 0 over the course of 6 seconds while I am raging hitting CC break getting nothing.
    I noticed this too, one time in a fight with a NB, but serveral times in fights with DKs after I got hit with "Invasion" and afterwards with "Burning Talons". Stun couldn't be broken.
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  • Limitless
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    I was knocked down by invasion yesterday and it took 52% of my stamina to break out.
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  • FireCowCommando
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    There is definitely some buggy stuff going on with certain CC's or CC combos. Though as many have stated, many NB ability combo's (not sure which ones) seem to be non CC breakable. Its a little frustrating being stunned for 7 seconds patiently hitting CC break (I know this is beyond designed limits).
  • InvictoNZ
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    I've only once been stun locked, and it was from being dismounted off my horse. Had no way to fight back, even with full stamina.

    I also ran into the opposite last night, charged a guy twice on his horse, he kept riding each time, chained him... did not dismount or pull him to me. Probably a stamina horse? :neutral_face:
  • timidobserver
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    I still deal with this very occasionally, but it's drastically reduced since I went into the key bindings and bound interrupt to one button. I've got it set to a side button on my mouse and it makes the world of difference.

    I did this as well and I still get it from time to time, but this did reduce the frequency.
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  • shanersimms_ESO
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    It would really be nice if a dev would let us know if this indeed a bug and what the plan is to resolve. Makes the PvP garbage and uncompetitive in its current state.
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  • Starshadw
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    Whatever the cause (be it lag or an actual bug), a solution has to be found. Particularly since we have the black bubble now, which not only damages the individual, but everyone around them. To not have the CC break be 100% functional is simply unacceptable. Frankly, breaking cc is so important, I'd like to see it NOT cost Stamina.
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