Enchants on Armor Sets

Azzuria

Will putting an Enchant on a piece of crafted set armor negatively affect the set bonus?

Dantonian_Rarstiana

No.
If you don't believe me, there is a preview of the item before and after the enchant, when you are selecting what enchant you want to apply.

Darastix

no, but i have noticed that only the helm,chest and legs get the full enchant, the rest get about 1/3 of the enchants value

Shiaxi

also remember that you can craft sets with traits... add infused to get an extra kick out of your enchants

Lupinemw

Darastix wrote: »

no, but i have noticed that only the helm,chest and legs get the full enchant, the rest get about 1/3 of the enchants value

Indeed its as designed as they are not full pieces in the fact they offer a lesser protection so the enchat has a lesser effect.

RomedyMC

Chest, Legs, Helm, and Shield receive 100% of the enchantment. The other pieces receive 40% of the enchantment.

Hence the debate over Infused - Divines - Impenetrable.

IMO, best to use Infused trait on Chest, legs, Helm, and Shield.
Get your impen trait on 2 or 3 of Gloves, Feet, Belt, Shoulders (180 soft cap for impen stat?)

The debate is the number crunching for Divines vs. Infused

Azzuria

Thanks, guys.

Lotsa stuff I didn't know. You're all too kind.

Hciliata

+2 Dang, two questions that I've been wondering about (does impenetrable stack, can you enchant set armor) in one thread. Thanks

Natjur

RomedyMC wrote: »

Hence the debate over Infused - Divines - Impenetrable.

There is something funny with Divine
Have it on one item, get nice increase, have it one two items..... and it acts odd and appears to have less of an effect then just one item!

Infused on Chest, legs, Helm, and Shield.
Impenetrable on the rest except Divine on one item

Will have to see if its fixed with the 1.2 patch

dc1509

Darastix wrote: »

no, but i have noticed that only the helm,chest and legs get the full enchant, the rest get about 1/3 of the enchants value

Basically, this made no sense for me from the early beta times ...

Why don't they just normalize the amount of the enchanted stats over the gear items equally (lower the helm/armor etc and raise belt/boots etc) ? this would prevent any confusion in the glyphs usage/tooltips and glyphs naming ...

It appears that the enchanting is the least user friendly profession in the current condition.

RomedyMC

Natjur wrote: »

RomedyMC wrote: »

Hence the debate over Infused - Divines - Impenetrable.

There is something funny with Divine
Have it on one item, get nice increase, have it one two items..... and it acts odd and appears to have less of an effect then just one item!

Infused on Chest, legs, Helm, and Shield.
Impenetrable on the rest except Divine on one item

Will have to see if its fixed with the 1.2 patch

I actually started a thread to research the Divines question. I have found that the Divines trait is subtractive in nature, meaning that stacking Divines is useless.

The caveat here is I have only looked into stones that directly increase health, magicka, and stamina. Others, like spell crit, are more difficult to analyze.

Anyway, the Divines formula (as far as I can tell):

[ (Mundus stone increase) - (previous Divines increase)] x (Current Divines % addition) = stat increase.

RomedyMC

dc1509 wrote: »

Darastix wrote: »

no, but i have noticed that only the helm,chest and legs get the full enchant, the rest get about 1/3 of the enchants value

Basically, this made no sense for me from the early beta times ...

Why don't they just normalize the amount of the enchanted stats over the gear items equally (lower the helm/armor etc and raise belt/boots etc) ? this would prevent any confusion in the glyphs usage/tooltips and glyphs naming ...

It appears that the enchanting is the least user friendly profession in the current condition.

IMO, this would make reaching the softcaps for all 3 pools much too easy. As it currently stands, you can rather easily reach 2 of the 3 by playing with gear enchants / attribute points / food and can easily reach all 3 regen softcaps by playing with ring enchants.

dc1509

RomedyMC wrote: »

dc1509 wrote: »

Darastix wrote: »

no, but i have noticed that only the helm,chest and legs get the full enchant, the rest get about 1/3 of the enchants value

Basically, this made no sense for me from the early beta times ...

Why don't they just normalize the amount of the enchanted stats over the gear items equally (lower the helm/armor etc and raise belt/boots etc) ? this would prevent any confusion in the glyphs usage/tooltips and glyphs naming ...

It appears that the enchanting is the least user friendly profession in the current condition.

IMO, this would make reaching the softcaps for all 3 pools much too easy. As it currently stands, you can rather easily reach 2 of the 3 by playing with gear enchants / attribute points / food and can easily reach all 3 regen softcaps by playing with ring enchants.

Not sure how exactly this applies to my post ...

The total amount of the attributes you gain from all of the enchants is the same for both cases (the current system vs the normalized one I suggested)

RomedyMC

dc1509 wrote: »

Not sure how exactly this applies to my post ...

The total amount of the attributes you gain from all of the enchants is the same for both cases (the current system vs the normalized one I suggested)

I misunderstood then, apologies. By "normalized" I assumed you meant boost all pieces to 100% enchantment effect instead of separating them 100 / 40

dc1509

No problem , m8.

All the enchanting thing in the current condition is confusing at best.

Also, I can't find any logical reason for the current system, since we are talking about something ephemeral (magic) , that can't actually depend on the size of the object (judging by the general magic understanding from most sources, like games/movies).

There are many really powerful items (in general fantasy), like small amulets (for example) that are much more powerful in terms of magic. So, why any belt or boots would contain less magical power in comparison to robe or helm ?

Also, if we try to compare the amount of materials needed to make any real helm and real boots, I would say that the amounts are equal in most cases. Sometimes boots could require even more materials...

Anyway, my point is that there is no actual background or explanation for the current system, and it's just confusing.

sorry for the wall of text...

Draaconis

Darastix wrote: »

no, but i have noticed that only the helm,chest and legs get the full enchant, the rest get about 1/3 of the enchants value

I've been trying to figure out the logic behind this. Magic is quality, not quantity. Even though, I can enchant a ring or pendant with a full effect, but my shoes can't quite take it? REALLY!?

RazzPitazz

AoE cap on Armor enchants ;-P

Enkil

It is somewhat in keeping with previous elder scrolls titles where certain pieces of equipment had max enchantment values. However, they have modified enchanting so far from previous titles that keeping that convention makes little sense. Normalizing it so that the enchants values are evenly distributed would be much better and would not unbalance anything.