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Losing the Emperorship

Dleatherus
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p.s. i had a BLAST being emperor, and STRONGLY suggest to the devs that they look at having a campaign in the future where the rules allow for a player to be crowned emperor only once during that campaign term - they retain their leaderboard ranking and AP etc, but the next time the throne is claimed by their alliance, the next person in line who hasn't worn the throne yet, is crowned - let's have more folks who worked hard for it have a chance to enjoy the fun also

my many and humble thanks to everybody in zone who helped, and not just The Noore - it's an alliance wide effort
Edited by Dleatherus on 15 May 2014 22:48
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  • maholi
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    I would like to add that I think it should allow the current Emperor to be able to be crowned more than once for up to 24 hours at least so that they get a chance to experience it for at least a part of the day if the keeps are taken back quickly.

    edit: The more I think about it though I would be afraid of non-stop Emperor swapping then. Not sure I like that idea.
    Edited by maholi on 15 May 2014 22:00
  • Dleatherus
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    maholi wrote: »
    I would like to add that I think it should allow the current Emperor to be able to be crowned more than once for up to 24 hours at least so that they get a chance to experience it for at least a part of the day if the keeps are taken back quickly.

    edit: The more I think about it though I would be afraid of non-stop Emperor swapping then. Not sure I like that idea.

    yup - my proposal could be exploited also

    an alternative would be to have 'private' campaigns where some of the 'honorable' guilds could duke it out - but that also brings with it a whole slew of problems and potential abuses - wishful thinking - but i'll never stop it

    D.
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  • Avidus
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    Am I correct in assuming that your crown was taken by somebody of your own alliance?
    Otherwise there is nothing wrong with it.
  • Dleatherus
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    Avidus wrote: »
    Am I correct in assuming that your crown was taken by somebody of your own alliance?
    Otherwise there is nothing wrong with it.

    i think you'd need to read several of the SC related threads to get it, and tbh if you haven't i wouldn't recommend them other than for amusement purposes

    D.

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  • Bergs
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    You sound mad.
  • nukeyoo
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  • cjtignub17_ESO
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    On nonselfish campaigns the emps give it up to allow their friends and guildies the chance to get emp.
  • Dleatherus
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    On nonselfish campaigns the emps give it up to allow their friends and guildies the chance to get emp.

    agreed - it's the selfish ones that are the problem

    D.
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  • SwampRaider
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    On nonselfish campaigns the emps give it up to allow their friends and guildies the chance to get emp.

    Basically Emperor trading. Which is frowned upon.
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  • Dleatherus
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    On nonselfish campaigns the emps give it up to allow their friends and guildies the chance to get emp.

    Basically Emperor trading. Which is frowned upon.

    i think it depends

    on some campaigns one alliance will take all the throne keeps, crown a new emperor, and then go guest elsewhere until all the keeps are retaken a few hours later - not defend a single thing - rinse and repeat - an exploit in many people's books

    on the campaign that I am in one of our guildies was crowned emperor and held onto the crown for 12 days before being dethroned - we fought tooth and nail at the last keep with EP on one side of the outer walls pounding the inner postern and DC on the outer walls on the other side of the same keep pounding the other postern

    when we retook the keeps he abdicated to allow the next person, in this case me, to be crowned - i retained the throne for 15 days before losing it - hardly 'emperor trading'

    D.
    Edited by Dleatherus on 16 May 2014 14:05
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  • Thechemicals
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    Emperorship should be given through heroic acts and leet playing, not an accumulation of alliance points.
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  • Dleatherus
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    heroic acts and leet playing AND dedication to a campaign will by default accumulate alliance points

    unfortunately accumulation of alliance points through more questionable methods is rampant in some campaigns as well

    balancing this is a task that i don't envy the devs who might be looking at a solution to it

    D.
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  • Thechemicals
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    I hear the cyrodiil zone spam all the time "Gank squad forming up, get XXXXX Ap an hour".

    I have yet to see an emperor who really wrecked the enemy and dominated the map.
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  • Froobert
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    nukeyoo wrote: »
    Bergs wrote: »
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    Edited by Froobert on 16 May 2014 17:51
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  • JosephChip
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    I don't get what the problem of the guy writing that letter is. You had a bad experience as Emperor and...? You insult ZOS? It's like you hold them responsible for every unpleasant situation you had to deal with. And you say you won't compete anymore like you are trying to spite them. Why should they care? What is the logic behind that letter? Is there some context that puts this in perspective or I just read a random banter with no reasonable thought?
    Automatic message telling you how you lost your throne --> get mad at develpers... ???
  • SBR_QuorTek
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    Would be a great idea having the next one in line becoming the next emperor, but the one before of course keeping his points, would be a more fair system or something. per campaign that is
  • Infraction
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    I don't get what the problem of the guy writing that letter is. You had a bad experience as Emperor and...? You insult ZOS? It's like you hold them responsible for every unpleasant situation you had to deal with. And you say you won't compete anymore like you are trying to spite them. Why should they care? What is the logic behind that letter? Is there some context that puts this in perspective or I just read a random banter with no reasonable thought?
    Automatic message telling you how you lost your throne --> get mad at develpers... ???

    It reads as sarcasm to me not anger.
  • darkdruidssb14_ESO
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    I think the Emperor idea is bad in general, but ESO's version is better than what Aion had with their General system.

    In Aion you were scared to PvP as a General because you were huge points to kill and you lost tons of points for points for dying. A lot of the generals that I saw got the title and felt like they had to hide in PvE. Not to mention when generals used their abilities in Aion it was much more devastating.
    Edited by darkdruidssb14_ESO on 16 May 2014 18:31
  • Dleatherus
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    I don't get what the problem of the guy writing that letter is. You had a bad experience as Emperor and...? You insult ZOS? It's like you hold them responsible for every unpleasant situation you had to deal with. And you say you won't compete anymore like you are trying to spite them. Why should they care? What is the logic behind that letter? Is there some context that puts this in perspective or I just read a random banter with no reasonable thought?
    Automatic message telling you how you lost your throne --> get mad at develpers... ???

    erm - it was humor - the letter wasn't addressed to ZOS or the DEVS, it was addressed to the Elders of the Council of the Empire

    that i enjoyed my time as emperor should be self evident if you read the comments in THAT post DIRECTLY BELOW the letter

    ty

    D.
    Edited by Dleatherus on 16 May 2014 18:35
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  • CMz
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    I don't get what the problem of the guy writing that letter is. You had a bad experience as Emperor and...? You insult ZOS? It's like you hold them responsible for every unpleasant situation you had to deal with. And you say you won't compete anymore like you are trying to spite them. Why should they care? What is the logic behind that letter? Is there some context that puts this in perspective or I just read a random banter with no reasonable thought?
    Automatic message telling you how you lost your throne --> get mad at develpers... ???

    It was a joke; just read the authors comments that followed it. I would love to have someone to write to for all the Windows error messages that arrive on my displays daily...
  • Thechemicals
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    I think an emperor should explode into confeti when killed,and a rainbow should grow where they died.
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  • Dleatherus
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    I think an emperor should explode into confeti when killed,and a rainbow should grow where they died.

    lol i like it

    perhaps a 'graveyard' where all former emperors have their own gravestone

    or like some kind of a memorial obelisk where emperors and how long they reigned for are listed

    D.
    Edited by Dleatherus on 16 May 2014 20:08
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  • buttclown69
    I think having the next person in line to be emperor that hasn't been emperor is a realistic idea and agree that it would be a good thing put into the campaigns. I also think that if they keep these campaigns as long as there are, and in their current state, that emperorship should only last maybe 7 days tops then pass down to the next highest on your side.
  • Dleatherus
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    I think having the next person in line to be emperor that hasn't been emperor is a realistic idea and agree that it would be a good thing put into the campaigns. I also think that if they keep these campaigns as long as there are, and in their current state, that emperorship should only last maybe 7 days tops then pass down to the next highest on your side.

    agreed - i think a week is more than a reasonable amount of time for one person to enjoy the crown - though it has it's pros and cons as any suggestion we put forward

    D.
    Edited by Dleatherus on 16 May 2014 20:33
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  • JosephChip
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    Dleatherus wrote: »
    JosephChip wrote: »
    I don't get what the problem of the guy writing that letter is. You had a bad experience as Emperor and...? You insult ZOS? It's like you hold them responsible for every unpleasant situation you had to deal with. And you say you won't compete anymore like you are trying to spite them. Why should they care? What is the logic behind that letter? Is there some context that puts this in perspective or I just read a random banter with no reasonable thought?
    Automatic message telling you how you lost your throne --> get mad at develpers... ???

    erm - it was humor - the letter wasn't addressed to ZOS or the DEVS, it was addressed to the Elders of the Council of the Empire

    that i enjoyed my time as emperor should be self evident if you read the comments in THAT post DIRECTLY BELOW the letter

    ty

    D.

    Oh, I didn't realize you were simply pretending to talk to a fictitious council. Thought you were actually addressing the devs through that expedient.
    Dleatherus wrote: »
    I think an emperor should explode into confeti when killed,and a rainbow should grow where they died.

    lol i like it

    perhaps a 'graveyard' where all former emperors have their own gravestone

    or like some kind of a memorial obelisk where emperors and how long they reigned for are listed

    D.

    I propose it should be indentical to the scene in The Fellowship of the Ring in which Sauron gets his ring finger cut off.
    Edited by JosephChip on 16 May 2014 23:16
  • RedTalon
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    Sarcasm at its finest, sadly seems lost on some.

    -Does the slow clap.-
    Edited by RedTalon on 17 May 2014 01:56
  • Alephen
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    Dleatherus wrote: »
    I think an emperor should explode into confeti when killed,and a rainbow should grow where they died.

    lol i like it

    perhaps a 'graveyard' where all former emperors have their own gravestone

    or like some kind of a memorial obelisk where emperors and how long they reigned for are listed

    D.

    a series of obelisks, rising higher depending on term of emperorship standing tall upon the fields of peen.
    Edited by Alephen on 17 May 2014 03:01
  • nukeyoo
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    Froobert wrote: »
    nukeyoo wrote: »
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  • Cheapshot
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    @‌Dleatherus

    Dear NOORE,

    ; The hate i hold against you all is so much I made it my life long mission to dethrone you. Working with DC, EP, and "OTHERS" i organized the blitz dethroning ritual on your @$$.....

    I'm happy THORKER is the new emperor and YOU shall never see emperor on my server again. No Noore emperor ever shall be crowned as long as I'm in skull crusher. You have made our gaming experience horrible and you deserve nothing but a shameful dethroning.

    LONG LIVE THE FORSAKEN ONE


    MISSION FREAKING ACCOMPLISHED ENJOY THE NEXT 40 days of our campaign I KNOW I WILL
    Edited by Cheapshot on 17 May 2014 04:35
  • Dleatherus
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    @Cheapshot‌

    Edited from original post

    your accusations against me and The Noore have been discussed in this thread also:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/97443/fall-of-the-noore-skullcrusher-us-blitz-co-op-style#latest

    what your own faction folks have to say about you, their 'ally', and us, their 'enemies' speaks for itself

    folks who play in Skull Crusher and/or read these forums know the score, what you stand for, what we stand for, am more than fine with that

    D.

    p.s. am absolutely fine with you starting a thread dedicated to a 'we hate The Noore' theme as opposed to you trolling and hijacking most of the threads and posts we make with your selfish, childish approach not just to us, but the game and the player community as a whole

    Edited by Dleatherus on 17 May 2014 15:51
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